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  • #341
  • Aug 1, 2010 12:00pm Aug 1, 2010 12:00pm
Hey Bob, i love the way how you do not follow the traditional "guru" style because honestly i've spent at least a few thousands in it. But do you mind explaining what have you based on to take profit? There was a post where you said your usual take profit would be "white line" hitting 15, mid band of BB, btm band etc.... but for this case i suppose you took before all those actually happend to run for a 100 over pips?

Quoting nanningbob
Here is a series of trades using the #4 I took with the GBP/JPY. #1 trade entered off of the BB band and I took a 30+ profit off of it. #2 hit the BB again and again I took a +40 profit off of it. #3 it crossed the MA and I took a 70+ profit off of it. I got three trades off of the #4 playing the bouncing around price does when it changes direction. So instead of waiting for the big, ahem trend run that is so often taught by the gurus of Forex. I took 3 trades and made well over 140+ on three.
  • #342
  • Aug 1, 2010 12:08pm Aug 1, 2010 12:08pm
Quoting nanningbob
You had corrected the #2 EA in you most updated version but it was wrong in 5.0. I put a shift of 1 into the #1 EA to keep the BB from running away from price action in spikes. #3 was changed into a MA crossing the BB before it entered anytime price was inside the BB. I added the function if previous is greater and the now is less, enter. Opposite for the buys. This causes the EA to only enter during the 4H candle it crosses in. I can send you more detail if you dont see these. The changes were all in the bottom code. I also turned off the enter...
Am I being spectacularly dense, Bob? I usually am. I don't see any of these changes in the code in the post 1 zip.

For example, the shift of 1 into #1 ea. Does this mean that the existing

Inserted Code
BbUpper = iBands(NULL, PERIOD_H4,  25, 2, 0, PRICE_CLOSE, MODE_UPPER, 0);
should be
Inserted Code
BbUpper = iBands(NULL, PERIOD_H4,  25, 2, 0, PRICE_CLOSE, MODE_UPPER, 1);

'cos it isn't.

  • #343
  • Aug 1, 2010 1:04pm Aug 1, 2010 1:04pm
i just download 5.2A


getting error CRC while uncompress 5.2A zip.


any wrong with my winzip ?
  • #344
  • Aug 1, 2010 2:34pm Aug 1, 2010 2:34pm
Quoting laharjaya
i just download 5.2A


getting error CRC while uncompress 5.2A zip.


any wrong with my winzip ?
Mine works, you should download and use 7-Zip (free open source) instead.
  • #345
  • Edited 4:51pm Aug 1, 2010 4:39pm | Edited 4:51pm
Quoting SteveHopwood
...For example, the shift of 1 into #1 ea. Does this mean that the existing...
No, Bob use in #1 the "other" shift:
Inserted Code
BbUpper = iBands(NULL, PERIOD_H4,  25, 2, [b][color=DarkRed]1[/color][/b], PRICE_CLOSE, MODE_UPPER, 0);
I know why Bob have programmed this solution, because I also analysed this (post #120). The signals are stabler, but the solution is not optimal if we compare the original with the "shifted" signals.

Maybe the use of PRICE_MEDIAN instead of PRICE_CLOSE would be better, and in post #120 I've mentioned this. Unfortunately the solution is better but not perfect...


- In #3 I don't see any changes.
- It is not setted in all of EA's the parameter "UseSafetyFeature=false", like in #1.
  • #346
  • Aug 1, 2010 4:58pm Aug 1, 2010 4:58pm
Quoting SwingMan
No, Bob use in #1 the "other" shift:
[code]
BbUpper = iBands(NULL, PERIOD_H4,...
Thanks George. I only need to know in order to make changes to the auto-trader; here I have simply downloaded Bob's adaptations of my adaptations of Bob's ea's.

As usual, I peered really closely at Bob's changes and still managed to miss them. Not a hint of an eye for detail, me.

Thanks yet again George. Every single time you post, you show what a star you are.

  • #347
  • Aug 1, 2010 5:12pm Aug 1, 2010 5:12pm
When Bob emailed me his first V5 about 3 weeks ago, I went on demo for a couple of days then took a few live trades. I ended up a few pips in profit despite not really knowing what I was doing.

Last week on demo, knowing a bit more about what I was doing and using my own adaptations of the trade-sending ea's, I made a killing.

This week I am going back live again. Boy, but I am looking forward to the ride.

Thanks Bob.

  • #348
  • Aug 1, 2010 6:53pm Aug 1, 2010 6:53pm
Quoting SwingMan
No, Bob use in #1 the "other" shift:
[code]
BbUpper = iBands(NULL, PERIOD_H4,...
I battled between #1 shift and median. I finally just chose one. Scientific huh.
  • #349
  • Edited 7:09pm Aug 1, 2010 6:56pm | Edited 7:09pm
Quoting SteveHopwood
When Bob emailed me his first V5 about 3 weeks ago, I went on demo for a couple of days then took a few live trades. I ended up a few pips in profit despite not really knowing what I was doing.

Last week on demo, knowing a bit more about what I was doing and using my own adaptations of the trade-sending ea's, I made a killing.

This week I am going back live again. Boy, but I am looking forward to the ride.

Thanks Bob.

That is funny because I did tthe same thing with your EAs. I just through them up willy nilly on 22 different charts just to see if they would enter and my demo account is up 54 dollars. LOL why do we need rules just post the dumb EAs on every currency and see what happens.

What is really funny is I had less DD doing that than I did with my live account following the rules during that time. LOL
  • #350
  • Aug 1, 2010 9:35pm Aug 1, 2010 9:35pm
Quoting nanningbob
I battled between #1 shift and median. I finally just chose one. Scientific huh.
Very good, this is your decision...!

BUT, are the user warned to draw in charts shifted BBands ?
You have now shifted bands for the #1 EA, and default bands for the #2..#4 EAs.
  • #351
  • Aug 1, 2010 9:54pm Aug 1, 2010 9:54pm
Quoting SwingMan
Very good, this is your decision...!

BUT, are the user warned to draw in charts shifted BBands ?
You have now shifted bands for the #1 EA, and default bands for the #2..#4 EAs.
No because the decision process does not change. We base our decision on the regular band no shift and the EA enters off of the shift. Being based on the previous candle band means much less movement and a better chance of entrance. It should approximate the position you really wanted to enter or are seeing on the screen. In a ranging market the difference is minimal and we want to capture the spike. In a band run we use other EAs so it is not critical because they are not based on a shift and we will generally not use the #1 on a BB runner. The key issue is to prevent entrances from being moved by a spike so that the EA doesnt enter. The visual aspect does not change on the screen. In other words we are trying to capture the visual image on the screen with an EA formula that matches. Sometimes in programming the program is slightly different than the visual to get them to match evenly. This was my best guess to get the EA to match the visual. I am all ears if you have something better.

Another example I do this is my MA cross warning system. If I want to be warned that the 1MA is crossing the 7 MA, I might set the indicator to the 1 crossing the 5. This way I get the warning a little early so by the time I get to my computer and look price action is at the 1x7 cross not below. Then I have a few moments time to make my decision. Instead of warning right at the 1x7 and having to make a hurried decision because price is on the move I give my self extra time to watch and see that this is what I want to do.
  • #352
  • Aug 2, 2010 12:18am Aug 2, 2010 12:18am
Hello all,

I've tested EAs a little, and noticed a problem with MPTM EAs (v5.2). If you do not set stop loss first, sells are closed immediatelly after EA starts, buys sometimes too. The problem is with CheckForHiddenStopLossHit function, if 0 is passed to "stop" parameter (no stoploss) then condition

if (ask >= sl)

is always true, because sl is negative.

Cheers
  • #353
  • Aug 2, 2010 3:21am Aug 2, 2010 3:21am
Quoting RobertBarnes
Hello all,

I've tested EAs a little, and noticed a problem with MPTM EAs (v5.2). If you do not set stop loss first, sells are closed immediatelly after EA starts, buys sometimes too. The problem is with CheckForHiddenStopLossHit function, if 0 is passed to "stop" parameter (no stoploss) then condition

if (ask >= sl)

is always true, because sl is negative.

Cheers
I had this problem also. hhmmm... And if what you say is true, then this is the reason why the MPTM 25 + 10 works for me if manage by ticket number and not by magic number. In this way, the MPTM Set SL TP will have the chance to set SL TP first before the MPTM 25 + 10 can act.
  • #354
  • Aug 2, 2010 4:35am Aug 2, 2010 4:35am
Quoting RobertBarnes
Hello all,

I've tested EAs a little, and noticed a problem with MPTM EAs (v5.2). If you do not set stop loss first, sells are closed immediatelly after EA starts, buys sometimes too. The problem is with CheckForHiddenStopLossHit function, if 0 is passed to "stop" parameter (no stoploss) then condition

if (ask >= sl)

is always true, because sl is negative.

Cheers
Thanks, I was wondering why I was getting kicked out of trades. Does it solve the problem if we assign a value to HiddenStopLossPips?

edit: Or should we assign a sl to the ea which is entering the trade?
  • #355
  • Aug 2, 2010 5:41am Aug 2, 2010 5:41am
Quoting MorningMania
Does it solve the problem if we assign a value to HiddenStopLossPips?

edit: Or should we assign a sl to the ea which is entering the trade?
For non-ECN broker assign SL to BOBs EA, for ECN-like broker wait for fixed MPTM EA . You can also try to set SL in BOB EAs too, but sometimes MPTM kill your trade before SL is set.
  • #356
  • Aug 2, 2010 5:47am Aug 2, 2010 5:47am
Let me know what is working so I can post it on pg 1.
  • #357
  • Aug 2, 2010 6:17am Aug 2, 2010 6:17am
Quoting nanningbob
Let me know what is working so I can post it on pg 1.
To resolve problem temporarilly set HideBreakEvenStop to false in MPTM EA.
And of course don't touch other options, like ShirtProtectionEnabled, because you spot the same problem.
  • #358
  • Aug 2, 2010 6:19am Aug 2, 2010 6:19am
hi bob ..or guru bob
following ur thread... loaded ur system on demo..

GU 4H price cross BB and blue line

and 1M outside the BB

now waiting for stock macd to join

#2 sell auto on now or wait for stoch/macd ??
  • #359
  • Aug 2, 2010 6:25am Aug 2, 2010 6:25am
Quoting jaydc
GU 4H price cross BB and blue line

[...] #2 sell auto on now or wait for stoch/macd ??
I ask some explanation too, for me it looks like the runner kiling machine
and decided do nothing with it.
  • #360
  • Aug 2, 2010 6:34am Aug 2, 2010 6:34am
Quoting nanningbob
That is funny because I did tthe same thing with your EAs. I just through them up willy nilly on 22 different charts just to see if they would enter and my demo account is up 54 dollars. LOL why do we need rules just post the dumb EAs on every currency and see what happens.

What is really funny is I had less DD doing that than I did with my live account following the rules during that time. LOL
nice thought
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