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  • #341
  • Jul 10, 2010 11:20pm Jul 10, 2010 11:20pm
I had a couple of weeks successful experience using MTFvHand till yestoday when I re-start my strategy tester and tried to place an order but failed, the message at the upper right corner of the chart window says ' incorrect stoploss ......",

I tried buy/sell/buy limit/sell limit/buy stop/sell stop, none of them works

Does any one of you have similar situation please to share?

jeurre
  • #342
  • Jul 13, 2010 6:00pm Jul 13, 2010 6:00pm
Quoting nubcake
no you can't have different timeframes running for vhands simultaneously. again, mt4 simulation environment (and i think ea environment as well) is designed for one chart only, therefore one timeframe only. you require a separate indi running on your backtest that is designed to re-represent the data on the current chart in whichever timeframe you wish... i.e. always run in m1 and have an indi recalc it in a sub window for m5 or m15 or m2.6453 etc
FYI

EAs can access all standard MT4 timeframes in both live and strategy test modes.

As for viewing muliple timeframes in Strategy tester I posted MTFVhands a while ago on this thread ... post #233


http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...83#post2097083
  • #343
  • Jul 13, 2010 6:31pm Jul 13, 2010 6:31pm
hey, rangebound, your mtfvhand is excellent, i had question regarding placing order, it returned its function, it seems i could not place order during weekend only, it is normal ? thanks

jeurre
  • #344
  • Jul 14, 2010 7:30pm Jul 14, 2010 7:30pm
I am trying to use this great tool to test a strategy of mine but I am having a major issue. The strategy requires the lot size to be adjusted each time a position is opened. I need to be able to open 0,6 or 1,7 or 2,5 lots depending on a formula and the 5 options available are not enough.

I tried adding one more but it did not work - the vHistory and vTerminal showed nothing when I edited the following code:


double LOT[] = { 1, 2, 5, 10, 20, 25 };

and replaced it with:


double LOT[] = { 1, 2, 5, 10, 20, 25, 40 };

Does anyone have an idea how I can open positions with a custom lot size every time?

Thank you for your time!
  • #345
  • Jul 26, 2010 5:17am Jul 26, 2010 5:17am
Quoting jeurre
hey, rangebound, your mtfvhand is excellent, i had question regarding placing order, it returned its function, it seems i could not place order during weekend only, it is normal ? thanks

jeurre
TBH I really dont know ... Ive never really used Vhands so I cant comment on its operation. MTFVHands was a simple integration of the period converter logic inside the original Vhands. So apart from getting multiple TF charts on screen the rest remains unchanged from the single TF Vhands
  • #346
  • Aug 1, 2010 2:46pm Aug 1, 2010 2:46pm
Any chance to the save the trade history and continue where you left it in the previous simulation session ?

At the moment I have to write down all the trades manually so they are not lost when closing MT4.
  • #347
  • Sep 12, 2010 4:24pm Sep 12, 2010 4:24pm
Hi there guys!

First of all I would like to thank the threadstarter very much, read the entire thread and learnt allot from all of you guys.
But I still have some questions I hope some of you can answer.

The first question has to do with the history. See I'm apparently using Alpari for my history. Now 4H and daily go back to before my granny was born, however, 1HR chart (which I trade from) is being a wanker and only goes back to 2010.05.14.. Can someone help with that one?

And oh yeah the last question, is it possible to "tell" vHandsTrade to start from different dates? Have memorized the last couple of months and I'm feeling like Tudor Jones here
  • #348
  • Sep 13, 2010 3:20am Sep 13, 2010 3:20am
you probably havent actually downloaded historical data... havent opened mt4 for months so forget exactly where it is, but have a poke around the menus up top and you will find it.

vhands backtesting is just like any other EA. you specify the starting date before you click the start button, so again have a look around at the Strategy Tester settings you have it set up to and you will see the date field. obviously you require the data to begin with so first step is the above paragraph.
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  • #349
  • Sep 13, 2010 6:55am Sep 13, 2010 6:55am
Quoting nubcake
you probably havent actually downloaded historical data... havent opened mt4 for months so forget exactly where it is, but have a poke around the menus up top and you will find it.

vhands backtesting is just like any other EA. you specify the starting date before you click the start button, so again have a look around at the Strategy Tester settings you have it set up to and you will see the date field. obviously you require the data to begin with so first step is the above paragraph.
Okay yeah solved that one thank you.. Just needed to download data.
Anyway now I have another problem.. The vTerminal is starting 4 tickets (orders) when I really just want to start one? How come?
  • #350
  • Sep 13, 2010 7:08am Sep 13, 2010 7:08am
because you didn't read the thread and / or manual. you MUST pause the strategy tester to set off any form of order management through the vhands objects on the chart. not pausing causes vhands to go mental as each tick the strategy tester generates triggers the vhands code and generally people are unable to move a vhands object before a whole bunch of ticks have been simulated, hence, vhands code has run a whole bunch too. each time vhands code ran you still have an object away from its start point (e.g. market buy) so you get the explosion of orders setting off.

pause. do something. unpause.
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  • #351
  • Sep 13, 2010 7:27am Sep 13, 2010 7:27am
I love you guys
  • #352
  • Sep 13, 2010 7:56am Sep 13, 2010 7:56am
  •  FxChi
  • | Joined Dec 2007 | Status: Cash Rules Everything Around Me | 749 Posts
The Pause button on Vhands is pretty nice if you have it on full screen and want to place trades.
"Wishful thinking dies hard." Igor T.
  • #353
  • Sep 16, 2010 6:41am Sep 16, 2010 6:41am
Ok so a couple of day or so I could just scroll to the time I wanted and press 'Start' and it started from that date and forward.
Now it is insisting on starting on the same date all the time, even though I'm scrolling the dates back and sometimes forward BEFORE I started the EA.

What did I do wrong this time?
  • #354
  • Sep 16, 2010 6:49am Sep 16, 2010 6:49am
Quoting Carnegie
Ok so a couple of day or so I could just scroll to the time I wanted and press 'Start' and it started from that date
No you couldn't.

It always starts at the start date and ends at the end date given in the two date input fields. It doesn't care about scrolling and never did.
  • #355
  • Sep 16, 2010 7:30am Sep 16, 2010 7:30am
my guess is this is a case of

not having history
scrolling back a few days
setting a start date way before this date
thinking the ea is starting at where i scrolled from, which it is but only because that is the only data it has to work with

now you have history
scrolling any direction makes no difference
ea now has data from the start date finally so can actually start at that date each time you start.

please, read the instructions :/
Congratulations ScalaFX for coming out of the closet!
  • #356
  • Sep 16, 2010 7:30am Sep 16, 2010 7:30am
Quoting 7bit
No you couldn't.

It always starts at the start date and ends at the end date given in the two date input fields. It doesn't care about scrolling and never did.
Don't take this personal but I believe you are wrong. Since it is always starting on 2008.03.26 : 21.00 and the two data inputs are:

From: 2000.01.01
To: 2010.08.04

However, it always start on the exact same date. (I.e 2008.03.26 : 21.00) And yes, I am 100% sure that before I could just scroll to where I wanted it and press start and it collected tics and then started to simulate.
  • #357
  • Sep 16, 2010 7:34am Sep 16, 2010 7:34am
Quoting nubcake
my guess is this is a case of

not having history
scrolling back a few days
setting a start date way before this date
thinking the ea is starting at where i scrolled from, which it is but only because that is the only data it has to work with

now you have history
scrolling any direction makes no difference
ea now has data from the start date finally so can actually start at that date each time you start.

please, read the instructions :/
Sorry I really didn't understand your post. I have read the instructions and in fact I have downloaded history. But before it started from where I "told it to". Now it's just starting from the same place all the time.
  • #358
  • Sep 16, 2010 7:39am Sep 16, 2010 7:39am
if your broker doesn't give you any history older than 2008 it cannot start at 2000. You have to find some history data somewhere.
  • #359
  • Sep 16, 2010 8:08am Sep 16, 2010 8:08am
Quoting 7bit
if your broker doesn't give you any history older than 2008 it cannot start at 2000. You have to find some history data somewhere.
Shit you're right.. It doesn't go back more than 2008.02.11.
However, when I go to the "From" button and click.. lets say 2008.02.18 is still doesn't start from that date.
Also, any ideas where I can download history from? I have MetaTrader 4 and broker is Alpari.

Thanks for the help guys. Just want to get this shirt started soon, taking too much time. It always the dates that are messing with me
  • #360
  • Sep 16, 2010 8:26am Sep 16, 2010 8:26am
you said you figured out how to download the history and had done so, so what has changed since then?

the last thing i can think of is you keep changing timeframes. if want to backtest on m15 then download m15, set the timeframe in the tester settings to m15, and get to it.
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