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  • #41
  • Jul 5, 2010 12:54pm Jul 5, 2010 12:54pm
Quoting Rednose
Iīm not arguing with you anymore, you just answer (in a very slippery way) the points that you want to answer and seems to me that you are unable to understand what Iīm saying so I let the readers of my and specially YOUR posts made their own mind.

Over and out.

Seriously - that's it?

You've accused us without any merit, made false claims about our business and made personal insults to me and when it comes to verify the facts you've done nothing. Just admit it that there is a place where real traders can communicate with full transparency and collaborate around trading decisions.

It seems like our only point of different is that you are willing to take advice from traders that you have no idea how good they are, what is the agenda or if they in fact really trade and you're doing all this when there is a viable alternative - sounds very logic to me.

I wish you best of luck in trading (with a strong emphasis on luck)

-- Asaf.
  • #42
  • Jul 5, 2010 12:56pm Jul 5, 2010 12:56pm
Quoting wwwin
Hello???? are you dumb? can't you comprehend English? I don't care and did not ask about payment...I AM TALKING ABOUT A SECURITY RISK BY GIVING OUT CREDENTIALS.

Let's see you want my name, address, BIRTH DATE, broker account number and password. Who is talking about payment here?
Rednose is corrrect, you never answer the question asked.
I did many many time - we don't need your account information and we don't ask for it - how clear can I be.

All you need to do is install an EA that we develop on a read only instance of MT4. That's it - now if this didn't answer your question then I don't know what will.

-- Asaf.
  • #43
  • Jul 5, 2010 1:02pm Jul 5, 2010 1:02pm
Quoting Rednose
Thatīs the point, anyone who has a little bit of brains will never join a company which ask for confidential personal information and the co-founder...

Boy you are thick!

Currensee will not ever tell anyone that he can make more money - We are not ForexFactory - we are against is and in fact we convince a lot of traders to get some professional help from serious instructors and we don't make a dime on it.

There are rules and regulations for companies collecting personal information be it credit card or broker account information and we comply with all the rules and regulations - believe me that security is the most important thing for us and we spend a lot of time and money on it.

Are you accusing us with giving this information to the brokers now? You can ask them when you send them the email about how much they pay us - if you ever do something productive.

-- Asaf.
  • #44
  • Jul 5, 2010 1:08pm Jul 5, 2010 1:08pm
Quoting asafyigal
Seriously - that's it?

You've accused us without any merit, made false claims about our business
Oh poor boy..did I? Are you aware that YOU were the one who started accusing people here?

Quoting asafyigal
and made personal insults to me and when it comes to verify the facts you've done nothing.
Behave like an a..hole and youīll be treated like an a..hole.

Quoting asafyigal
Just admit it that there is a place where real traders can communicate with full transparency and collaborate around trading decisions.
You telling to admit what? after your bozo posting here the only thing that I can admit is that arguing with you was a waste of time.

Quoting asafyigal
It seems like our only point of different is that you are willing to take advice from traders that you have no idea how good they are..
I prefer making my own decisions and if someone writes something that makes any sense to me Iīm certainly give it a try to see if it suits my OWN trading style.

Quoting asafyigal
what is the agenda or if they in fact really trade and you're doing all this when there is a viable alternative - sounds very logic to me.
I donīt care about other traderīs agenda or whatever I trade by myself and make my OWN decisions.

Quoting asafyigal
I wish you best of luck in trading (with a strong emphasis on luck)
There is no "luck" in trading. Either you know what your doing or you donīt know.


Your making noise to caught attention thread is a very well known trick Iīm not making part of it no more.
  • #45
  • Jul 5, 2010 1:11pm Jul 5, 2010 1:11pm
Quoting asafyigal
I did many many time - we don't need your account information and we don't ask for it - how clear can I be.

All you need to do is install an EA that we develop on a read only instance of MT4. That's it - now if this didn't answer your question then I don't know what will.

-- Asaf.
More LIES, when you go to register they ask for account and password, and althought initially it does not have the red dot as required, it actually IS REQUIRED, if you click next w/o inputing the account info, it takes you back and in read letters askS for the account info and this time it says it is required. MORE LYING AND BELOW IS A SCREEN CAPTURE.
ps. Even if you could bypass it, by installing the EA that you discuss, you are giving your account info to currensee, you can have EAs getting all your info and passing it to a website. BE AWARE FF MEMBERS

I demand that you post here the source code of the EA so we can see what information it is gathering. Otherwise, currensee should be designated as a security risk even if you can get by just installing the EA.
Also, an EA is not an accurate way to gauge trading results, as EA can be turned off and on, so you can select which trades to send to currensee. SO THE RESULTS ARE NOT COMEPLETE AND ACCURATE.
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  • #46
  • Jul 5, 2010 1:14pm Jul 5, 2010 1:14pm
Quoting asafyigal
I did many many time - we don't need your account information and we don't ask for it - how clear can I be...


Quoting asafyigal
First of all All the brokers that we support are well aware that we're asking for user credentials
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  • #47
  • Jul 5, 2010 1:16pm Jul 5, 2010 1:16pm
Quoting Rednose
Oh poor boy..did I? Are you aware that YOU were the one who started accusing people here?



Behave like an a..hole and youīll be treated like an a..hole.
Again with the personal insults - that's very mature of you.

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You telling to admit what? after your bozo posting here the only thing that I can admit is that arguing with you was a waste of time.
I am not arguing with you or anyone just trying to answer a few questions.

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I prefer making my own decisions and if someone writes something that makes any sense to me Iīm certainly give it a try to see if it suits my OWN trading style.
Read what you wrote again - if this is not taking advice from someone that you don't know they I don't know what is - how can you tell if it makes sense? because he posted a lot of comments on the forum?


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There is no "luck" in trading. Either you know what your doing or you donīt know.
For once we agree - it seemed to me that you rely on luck more then on anything else as you seem to trust anyone with your money.

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Your making noise to caught attention thread is a very well known trick Iīm not making part of it no more.
Why don't you stop with the personal insults and admit that you were wrong.

-- Asaf.
  • #48
  • Jul 5, 2010 1:17pm Jul 5, 2010 1:17pm
Quoting Rednose




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I have to be very literal with you I see - All the brokers that we support and require credentials are well aware of this.

The brokers are - OANDA, MBT (Native only), Forex.com

All the others you don't need to give any credential information.

Got it?

-- Asaf.
  • #49
  • Jul 5, 2010 1:19pm Jul 5, 2010 1:19pm
Quoting wwwin
More LIES, when you go to register they ask for account and password, and althought initially it does not have the red dot as required, it actually IS REQUIRED, if you click next w/o inputing the account info, it takes you back and in read letters askS for the account info and this time it says it is required. MORE LYING AND BELOW IS A SCREEN CAPTURE.
ps. Even if you could bypass it, by installing the EA that you discuss, you are giving your account info to currensee, you can have EAs getting all your info and passing it to a website. BE AWARE FF...
Well - when dealing with FXCM native there is a form you can ask FXCM that gives you a read only credentials and you can log to Currensee using these credentials. Go ahead ask them as well.

-- Asaf.
  • #50
  • Jul 5, 2010 1:20pm Jul 5, 2010 1:20pm
Quoting asafyigal
i have to be very literal with you i see - all the brokers that we support and require credentials are well aware of this.

The brokers are - oanda, mbt (native only), forex.com

all the others you don't need to give any credential information.

Got it?

-- asaf.
not true, you also require credentials with fxcm, see pic
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  • #51
  • Jul 5, 2010 1:23pm Jul 5, 2010 1:23pm
Quoting asafyigal
Well - when dealing with FXCM native there is a form you can ask FXCM that gives you a read only credentials and you can log to Currensee using these credentials. Go ahead ask them as well.

-- Asaf.
If that is the case, then you should instruct the people signing to get the read only credentials and then sign up, cause the way it is done, it is forcing people to put up the real info, w/o knowing other options.
  • #52
  • Jul 5, 2010 1:34pm Jul 5, 2010 1:34pm
Quoting wwwin
If that is the case, then you should instruct the people signing to get the read only credentials and then sign up, cause the way it is done, it is forcing people to put up the real info, w/o knowing other options.

We have been for a long time until FXCM decided not to allocate read-only credentials to micro accounts so we reverted back to this after talking to FXCM and I am personally working with the head of compliance at FXCM to generate an automated way to register to Currensee using read-only credentials.

-- Asaf.
  • #53
  • Jul 5, 2010 1:39pm Jul 5, 2010 1:39pm
Quoting asafyigal
We have been for a long time until FXCM decided not to allocate read-only credentials to micro accounts so we reverted back to this after talking to FXCM and I am personally working with the head of compliance at FXCM to generate an automated way to register to Currensee using read-only credentials.

-- Asaf.
Not an excuse, you can still tell people to get read only credentials, and put a note that this is not possible with FXCM Micros....why change the site and signing up process just b/c Micros cannot get read only credentials?
  • #54
  • Jul 5, 2010 1:41pm Jul 5, 2010 1:41pm
Quoting asafyigal
I have to be very literal with you I see


Quoting asafyigal
All the brokers that we support and require credentials are well aware of this.

The brokers are - OANDA, MBT (Native only), Forex.com

All the others you don't need to give any credential information.

Got it?

-- Asaf.
Holy déjā vu, Pinochio...but then again:

Quoting asafyigal
we don't need your account information and we don't ask for it
Quoting asafyigal
All the brokers that we support are well aware that we're asking for user credentials
Facts are facts. First you say you ask for it then you say you donīt...I wonder if all your statements are half truth like this...
  • #55
  • Jul 5, 2010 2:02pm Jul 5, 2010 2:02pm
Quoting wwwin
Not an excuse, you can still tell people to get read only credentials, and put a note that this is not possible with FXCM Micros....why change the site and signing up process just b/c Micros cannot get read only credentials?

You are right - this was done in conjunction with FXCM and the process was suppose to be done a long time ago - FXCM gut tied up with the ODL acquisition and this got postponed again and again.

I am going to make sure we change the copy and let traders know there is an alternative for FXCM regular accounts in the next release we have.

Thanks for taking this discussion to a positive direction and I just ask that you'd stop calling me a liar.

-- Asaf.
  • #56
  • Jul 5, 2010 2:04pm Jul 5, 2010 2:04pm
Quoting Rednose




Holy déjā vu, Pinochio...but then again:





Facts are facts. First you say you ask for it then you say you donīt...I wonder if all your statements are half truth like this...
You are going to be a tough person to acquire I see - I apologize that the way I expressed initially was not as clear as you wanted it.

Ask again any question and I'll be as clear as I can.

-- Asaf.
  • #57
  • Jul 5, 2010 2:09pm Jul 5, 2010 2:09pm
Quoting asafyigal
Again with the personal insults - that's very mature of you.
Quoting asafyigal
...if you ever do something productive.
Who is getting personal here?...
You calling me a boy?

Same answer as before act like one be treated like one.
Is the way it is, if it suits you is not my problem.

Quoting asafyigal
I am not arguing with you or anyone just trying to answer a few questions.
Keep on trying you havenīt been successful till the present moment.

You are answering nothing here just slipping around trying to fix your own lies with some bs over and over.

Quoting asafyigal
Read what you wrote again - if this is not taking advice from someone that you don't know they I don't know what is - how can you tell if it makes sense? because he posted a lot of comments on the forum?
I think you should read it again and maybe try to understand it.

Quoting asafyigal
For once we agree
I donīt think so...you brought luck and trading together..
I have disagreed with you..

Quoting asafyigal
it seemed to me that you rely on luck more then on anything else as you seem to trust anyone with your money.
Based on what? Denying to give my account credentials??

Quoting asafyigal
Why don't you stop with the personal insults and admit that you were wrong.

-- Asaf.
Wrong about what? showing that you post misleading information? showing that you post half truth statements? or just pointing at your slippy way to discuss?

Donīt even bother to answer Iīm out of this circus.
  • #58
  • Jul 5, 2010 2:47pm Jul 5, 2010 2:47pm
In the spirit of fairness, I'd like to know more about the info that's transmitted through the EA. I know there is a disclosure part way through the signup page regarding the EA/MT4 bridge, but now I only get an error when trying to get to it. I've tried with different computers and different (valid) emails. I couldn't sign up even if I wanted to.
  • #59
  • Jul 5, 2010 3:38pm Jul 5, 2010 3:38pm
Quoting billflet
In the spirit of fairness, I'd like to know more about the info that's transmitted through the EA. I know there is a disclosure part way through the signup page regarding the EA/MT4 bridge, but now I only get an error when trying to get to it. I've tried with different computers and different (valid) emails. I couldn't sign up even if I wanted to.
Same thing happened to me after posting on this thread. Was blocked from trying to sign up, I get a page that says access is denied. I had to go thru a Linux box to be able to get the pic I posted before of FXCM sign up page. They are blocking us from getting a hold of the EA.

I would like for someone not blocked to post the EA in this thread.
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  • #60
  • Jul 5, 2010 4:51pm Jul 5, 2010 4:51pm
Well Asaf has been making the rounds and FF is not the only place where they are not getting a warm reception.
A centralized source fx SLs for the benefit of the brokers?

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"I love conspiracy theories. Bear with me.
Think about it, most, if not all of the brokers they partner with, use MT4.
This company has individual position access ability.
A broker spikes a price (in theory) to hit stops on their own customers. A Currensee customer gets his stop hit. When this happens, everyone who was stopped-out, rushes to look at other price feeds, also partners of Currensee.
If I were FXCM or Alpari etc., what would it be worth, to me, to see other brokers' open risk?
Looking at the Currensee site,they seem a little miffed that Oanda won't work with them. Makes me like my silly Java charts just a little morehttp://www.elitetrader.com/vb/images/smilies/tongue.gif"
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