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  • #501
  • Jun 30, 2010 4:26pm Jun 30, 2010 4:26pm
Hi,

what's your settings? It looks like that your sl is set to 80.

Quoting eTrader
Result NextClose v155 EURUSD H1 Date 30/06/2010

Total trades = 13
Winners = 10 (76.92%)
Losers = 3 (23.08%)
Profit = +183.91 EUR

eTrader,
  • #502
  • Jun 30, 2010 6:00pm Jun 30, 2010 6:00pm
Quoting crodzilla
There isn't much to these MQ4's. They just copy price arrays to pass to the DLL. The DLL does all the heavy lifting for the neural net.

If you go to the neurotrader forum, there are some indicators that predict Moving Averages and the RSI.
Thanks crodzilla, I will have a look.
I can edit & alter mq4 files to sort of get them to try what I want, but DLLs will be a different learning curve.

cheers scalpz
Target 2 : Stoploss in the green
  • #503
  • Jun 30, 2010 9:30pm Jun 30, 2010 9:30pm
Quoting koyote44
my fault, i thought you got it already
here it is

thomas
Thanks for uploading !
eTrader,
  • #504
  • Jun 30, 2010 9:32pm Jun 30, 2010 9:32pm
Quoting gav
hello eTrader
what is the name of your broker please?
Hello Gav,
FxPro (Cyprus)
eTrader,
  • #505
  • Jun 30, 2010 9:36pm Jun 30, 2010 9:36pm
Quoting rootkit
Hi,

what's your settings? It looks like that your sl is set to 80.
Hello Rootkit,
Settings on date 30/06/2010 were:
Stop=8
Trail=5
TP=10 pips
eTrader,
  • #506
  • Jul 1, 2010 4:21am Jul 1, 2010 4:21am
Quoting eTrader
Hello Gav,
FxPro (Cyprus)
eTrader,
eTrader
thank you
  • #507
  • Edited 7:57am Jul 1, 2010 4:25am | Edited 7:57am
Result NextClose v156 EURUSD M30 Date 01/07/2010
Morning trades = 6
Winners = 6
Losers = 0

Profit = +243.15 EUR

Only for EURUSD
Avoid news related volatility !

Settings:
Lots = 1.0
UseMoneyManagement = False
RiskFactor = 0.2
Magic_Num = Fill in
Stop = 8
Trail = 5
TakeProfit = 10
UseFixedTP = True
TrailFractal = False
ContinuousMode = False
RiskReducer = 2
Epochs = 380
MaxEpochs = 1200
ForceIndex = 5.5
TradeOnSunday = False
MinMSE = 0.0000025
TimeFilter = False
SlidingWindow = 32
CloseAfter = 2
BeginHour = 17
EndHour = 1
Threshold = 8
Offset = 2
AutoAdjustDigits = True

eTrader,
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  • #508
  • Jul 1, 2010 4:37am Jul 1, 2010 4:37am
Quoting eTrader
Result NextClose v156 EURUSD M30 Date 01/07/2010
Morning trades = 6
Winners = 6
Losers = 0

Profit = +243.15 EUR

eTrader,
can you tell me ,why it didn't get any trade ?
  • #509
  • Jul 1, 2010 5:27am Jul 1, 2010 5:27am
Quoting gav
can you tell me ,why it didn't get any trade ?
whats your setting on TimeFilter. i think eTrader is using TimeFilter=off
post your settings so we can check.
  • #510
  • Jul 1, 2010 5:28am Jul 1, 2010 5:28am
Quoting eTrader
Result NextClose v156 EURUSD M30 Date 01/07/2010
Morning trades = 6
Winners = 6
Losers = 0

Profit = +243.15 EUR

eTrader,
can you attachment file setting .set , i have problems with setting !

thank you
  • #511
  • Jul 1, 2010 5:41am Jul 1, 2010 5:41am
Thanks for sharing! Is this a demo account or live account? Do you use timefilter on it?

Quoting eTrader
Result NextClose v156 EURUSD M30 Date 01/07/2010
Morning trades = 6
Winners = 6
Losers = 0

Profit = +243.15 EUR

eTrader,
  • #512
  • Jul 1, 2010 5:57am Jul 1, 2010 5:57am
Quoting koyote44
whats your setting on TimeFilter. i think eTrader is using TimeFilter=off
post your settings so we can check.
timefilter is false.
do i need to change it ?
  • #513
  • Jul 1, 2010 5:57am Jul 1, 2010 5:57am
Hi eTrader,

I must be missing something here, because I let the system ON since last night and got NO ONE trade here.

I am using a demo account, and this is the picture of the charts right now.

Would you mind sharing with us your EA setup?

Regards

Doc
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  • #514
  • Jul 1, 2010 6:06am Jul 1, 2010 6:06am
Quoting gav
timefilter is false.
do i need to change it ?
are you getting any errors on the experts tab? do you have installed the fann2mql from the first post?
  • #515
  • Jul 1, 2010 6:06am Jul 1, 2010 6:06am
Quoting DocJordan
Hi eTrader,

I must be missing something here, because I let the system ON since last night and got NO ONE trade here.

I am using a demo account, and this is the picture of the charts right now.

Would you mind sharing with us your EA setup?

Regards

Doc
It would seem that it is very broker dependent on profit/loss.

I ran it on Alpari UK with time filter off for 24 hours and it lost 9% of account balance with 2 winners and 27 loses.

Very strange.

There is no way I would run it on a live account.
  • #516
  • Jul 1, 2010 6:09am Jul 1, 2010 6:09am
Quoting scooby-doo
It would seem that it is very broker dependent on profit/loss.

I ran it on Alpari UK with time filter off for 24 hours and it lost 9% of account balance with 2 winners and 27 loses.

Very strange.

There is no way I would run it on a live account.
im on icm trading and i have the same bad results with nearly the same settings as eTrader
  • #517
  • Jul 1, 2010 6:15am Jul 1, 2010 6:15am
Quoting koyote44
im on icm trading and i have the same bad results with nearly the same settings as eTrader
From my experience neural price prediction EA's give very different results per broker.

I have never figured out why so far.
  • #518
  • Jul 1, 2010 6:48am Jul 1, 2010 6:48am
Quoting scooby-doo
From my experience neural price prediction EA's give very different results per broker.

Yes Scooby, the results are simple horrible with Alpari UK/RU-accounts. IBFX and FxPro seems usable. I will watch it for a while, then I would trade live through a copy- EA or -script if the test will be ok.

Poka
  • #519
  • Jul 1, 2010 6:55am Jul 1, 2010 6:55am
Quoting Vita
Yes Scooby, the results are simple horrible with Alpari UK/RU-accounts. IBFX and FxPro seems usable. I will watch it for a while, then I would trade live through a copy- EA or -script if the test will be ok.

Poka
The biggest problem is unless someone knows why it is broker dependent then it is very possible it would work with FxPro for a week, month etc and then STOP working with that broker and work with Alpari or different etc.

If the reason is (possible) that it has todo with price feeds or broker training data then it is very worrying and would not be feasible long term.

Having looked at the code (briefly) it does seem to be a coin flip 50/50 which ofcourse these type of EA's are until they build up patterns etc. What could be happening is that you lose your connection to the broker and it has to somehow retrain itself which it maybe getting wrong.

Scoobs.
  • #520
  • Jul 1, 2010 6:56am Jul 1, 2010 6:56am
Quoting scooby-doo
From my experience neural price prediction EA's give very different results per broker.

I have never figured out why so far.

Hello,

I'm using an ann i put together in matlab. I used Du ka sco py and the data from there seems to be ok.

My opinion is that the bucket shops play with the numbers to throw off TA indicators so that people will be hard pressed to find patterns out of the data; comes with the territory of semi-regulated forex market.
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