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Once you have plateaued...Where do ya go?

  • #1
  • First Post: Edited 5:08am Jun 23, 2010 3:57am | Edited 5:08am
So where is it you go when you want to talk trading with someone who has some clue when you don't want your ideas posted on a public forum...?

That's the failure of this website - If it were called Dark star factory we'd be so much better off - There would be about 8 threads in total and 1000 odd posts but the whole moral of this story is that time is not wasted and brains are forced to do their own thinking...

My friends don't trade my family don't trade - Good traders don't put their hand up and go "yo you dere in the crowd with the grey trading hair, lets chat" no sadly not

I feel I've reached a stage where yes I'm profitable but no I can't explain or comprehend the market moves as well as I'd like, but feel like I'm at a dead end which is Ironic cause I would have killed for what I know now a year ago (not really but almost!)

Might be the beers but I just got an urge after doing this alone for so long to get some conversation going about anything but indicators, patterns and the likes and get down to business... shhh I hear crickets

I'm a dude by the way...
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  • #2
  • Jun 23, 2010 4:05am Jun 23, 2010 4:05am
Quoting CindyXXXX
So where is it you go when you want to talk trading with someone who has some clue (and isn't darkstar!) when you don't want your ideas posted on a public forum...?

That's the failure of this website - If it were called Dark star factory we'd be so much better off - There would be about 8 threads in total and 1000 odd posts but the whole...
Think about what you are saying. You gave your own answer.

You say you know more than most people here. But you don't want to share this information with less informed people. At the same time, you want to talk with people with even more knowledge than you. But for them, you are just like the people of this forum are to you.

I also had this problem. My decision was to share first, and then wait for the other people to share. It didn't work. I shared, the other persons didn't. People are so greedy in not sharing the little thing they think they know, yet at the same time they demand sharing from others.

How I solved my problem? I read interviews with known successful traders and try to read between the lines. I also read a lot of (quant) books about trading. The best stuff I know was from books or online articles. I can't think of even one important thing that I found out about here, on FF. There is good stuff here, but nothing that you wouldn't find in a good book. All the ground-breaking stuff I learned, ground-breaking for me at least, was from books.

That's my experience. YMMV.
  • #3
  • Jun 23, 2010 4:17am Jun 23, 2010 4:17am
I really appreciate your input there Adal - very insightful -

I don't assume to know more than the posters on the forum - I don't want to sound so cocksure - I'm sure there a great many like DS, Gaston for example and many many others who I just haven't taken the time to explore...

I stopped posting long ago believing that this forum only hindered me - my signature sort of sums up my frustration - It's more a joke than a statement though...

But hey here I am today and look at me begging lol. It's funny - When DS ignore my PM's I'm not one bit surprised - I sort of put myself in his shoes and think well yeah who the fk am I? Just another parasitic nobby trying to pick their brains and try not to take it personally - which I don't (he prob gets heaps)

I guess I just have theories and stuff that only certain people could give me constructive advice about - confirm or deny - the only problem is they don't wanna hear it

I'm not looking for a free ticket just a new level -does that make sense? Sux doing it all alone

Quoting Adal
Think about what you are saying. You gave your own answer.

You say you know more than most people here. But you don't want to share this information with less informed people. At the same time, you want to talk with people with even more knowledge than you. But for them, you are just like the people of this forum are to you.

I also had this problem. My decision was to share first, and then wait for the other people to share. It didn't work. I shared, the other persons didn't. People are so greedy in not sharing the little thing they think they...
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  • #4
  • Jun 23, 2010 4:37am Jun 23, 2010 4:37am
Quoting CindyXXXX
I really appreciate your input there Adal - very insightful -

I don't assume to know more than the posters on the forum - I don't want to sound so cocksure - I'm sure there a great many like DS, Gaston for example and many many others who I just haven't taken the time to explore...

I stopped posting long ago believing that this forum only hindered me - my signature sort of sums up my frustration - It's more a joke than a statement though...

But hey here I am today and look at me begging lol. It's funny - When DS ignore my PM's I'm not one...
You can post your idea on your thread (or on this thread) or create your own blog (you will have better control about people comments, but will need some advertising).

If i find them interesting, i would try to read it.

On last resort, you can try to publish a book
  • #5
  • Jun 23, 2010 4:41am Jun 23, 2010 4:41am
yeah, and put it on amazon!
  • #6
  • Jun 23, 2010 4:51am Jun 23, 2010 4:51am
lol yeah cause I'm a freakin guru

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  • #7
  • Jun 23, 2010 5:26am Jun 23, 2010 5:26am
Tumbleweed - pretty much my point exactly

Forums are a self defeating environment and let this be my last post on FF

Thanks to the one poster who Heard me

BTW - EUR's going down down down (for now) (intraday) 12120
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  • #8
  • Jun 23, 2010 2:19pm Jun 23, 2010 2:19pm
Quoting CindyXXXX
So where is it you go when you want to talk trading with someone who has some clue when you don't want your ideas posted on a public forum...?
I agree with you about forums.

I occasionally attend a local TA group, that has monthly meetings; I have 3-4 trusted friends there who trade forex in a similar enough way to me, to make regular phone conversations worthwhile (that's how I met my business partner).

Beyond that, the Internet allows facilities like Skype, Messenger etc which allow free PC-to-PC calling (Skype even allows you to share screen images with each other) anywhere in the world (sorry, I guess that's stating the obvious). So I would start by PM-ing a few FF members whose posts suggest that they're like-minded or suitably knowledgeable, and see if they'd like to chat with you from time to time. If it doesn't work out with somebody, you can always move on. In a forum of 50,000 members, there have got to be a large number who would welcome the opportunity to discuss forex related things in a similar way to you.

Obviously there are lots of pay-for chat rooms and live trading rooms....... assuming you don't want to spend money joining one of these, why not find some like-minded traders and use something like Skype or Messenger to start your own one?
  • #9
  • Jun 23, 2010 3:39pm Jun 23, 2010 3:39pm
Private chat rooms with similar level traders are the way to go, they would not be that interested in your way of trading because at these levels they allready know the "how".
Do be aware though, a lot of chat rooms out there you will have to be careful with your info.
Biggest joker
  • #10
  • Jun 23, 2010 3:41pm Jun 23, 2010 3:41pm
Lol. Euro just short of my target, sometimes i wish i could stay up all night...
Biggest joker
  • #11
  • Jun 27, 2010 4:04pm Jun 27, 2010 4:04pm
Plateaus .. dunno if this helps but I take the concept of plateaus like I learned from training (weights and bodyweight).. which is find the sticking point or the weakest point in the chain and work on that, bringing the total performance up

First point here and the most critical is identifying your sticking point.. what is it, boredom? Greater desire? If so, for what?
  • #12
  • Jun 27, 2010 4:49pm Jun 27, 2010 4:49pm
Trading isnt a team sport.
  • #13
  • Jun 27, 2010 5:06pm Jun 27, 2010 5:06pm
Quoting Razzle
Trading isnt a team sport.
It's high performance solo activity but you can always capitalize on the experience of others
  • #14
  • Jun 27, 2010 11:39pm Jun 27, 2010 11:39pm
It's a lonely journey for those who have reached that certain point. I know the feeling...granted I did just quit trading a few days ago. And no, it wasn't from blowing up, it was from the simple realization that for me trading was a misapplication of capital, both human and cash wise.

I understand the original posters frustration and disdain. I've been there, I know a few older traders on this forum that have been there (and have subsequently left). The simple fact is, that once you reach that certain point, you don't need this forum anymore, you no longer belong here in your current form. It sounds harsh, but it's true. At that point you either change your purpose of being on here to teaching others, or you have to accept your new lot. Some people hit the issue of not having realized they've switched positions and hilarity ensues for everyone else while we get to watch someone try and work with themselves as someone else.

For some people it provides them with a sense of accomplishment and fulfillment to stick around and teach. For others, it's too frustrating and cumbersome, so they move on. Personally, I know I have no teaching skills...unless it's about drinking games, at which I've been told I'm the tenured professor of Harvard in teaching. For me I stick around to entertain myself. You want to find some interesting characters with some real knowledge? Dig around the off topic forum. The guys busiest goofing off are the ones you want to talk to.
  • #15
  • Jun 28, 2010 12:00am Jun 28, 2010 12:00am
Quoting Razzle
Trading isnt a team sport.
LOL.
The breaking of a wave cannot explain the whole sea.
  • #16
  • Jun 28, 2010 1:43am Jun 28, 2010 1:43am
Quoting CindyXXXX
I'm a dude by the way...
Ha!
  • #17
  • Jun 28, 2010 6:00am Jun 28, 2010 6:00am
Insightful stuff thanks Hanover, Sim and Skyhook - appreciate it - FX Surfer - sorry to disappoint!

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  • #18
  • Last Post: Jun 28, 2010 4:06pm Jun 28, 2010 4:06pm
Some here make the assumption that the only reasons someone would lurk around these forums are: to either teach, or, learn.
All people are not the same, i have always found interaction with other traders on a "live" basis is great for breaking the monotony of trading intra day, and sometimes it gets in the way of a good trade.
Call it the need to boast about your performance, or otherwise, it doesn't matter, some people find the need to interact and some don't.
I do.
Biggest joker
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