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  • #15,821
  • Jun 2, 2010 12:31pm Jun 2, 2010 12:31pm
Quoting fti
ok la, so rigid people can never learn to have no opinion on news events. except to follow the now. I made money on the selling and now riding long.Also took profits on long both in cable and euro. Now squared for ny lunch

You people will NEVER cut it.

I conclude my findings for Capt. It is truely easier to train monkeys.
Maybe without me around , some people will stay true. Those who won't will never. I better stop wasting my time.
Have seen enough of you fall.

GOODBYE.
Even though it is a sad news maybe it is for good for some people here. Sort of "final warning". I do hope that you will keep coming around every now and then, say as a friend, not necessarily as mentor

Should you not, I once again thank you for your time and efforts through the years. You left something good here. It has been an honor for me.

God bless and good fortune.
  • #15,822
  • Jun 2, 2010 12:34pm Jun 2, 2010 12:34pm
Quoting fti
what a joke.(flattery gets you everywhere)
Trying learn something you cannot believe in.
Ai ya , go flap your wings and fly la.

I still have my flight manuals with me.
Do you want me send them to you?
You can build a cupboard box ,cockpit.
and after some time you will get your wings just like you will learn to be a profitable trader. At your own rules.
See, this whole post in vague and incoherent. You remind me of Bemac.
Living the adventure in my head.
  • #15,823
  • Jun 2, 2010 12:38pm Jun 2, 2010 12:38pm
Quoting Setebos
Even though it is a sad news maybe it is for good for some people here. Sort of "final warning". I do hope that you will keep coming around every now and then, say as a friend, not necessarily as mentor

Should you not, I once again thank you for your time and efforts through the years. You left something good here. It has been an honor for me.

God bless and good fortune.
Hi Setebos,
Sure will check in , from time to time , to meet the faithful.

Its been my honour as well.

Trade well & Good Fortune.

regards
  • #15,824
  • Jun 2, 2010 12:45pm Jun 2, 2010 12:45pm
Fti, if am i right...???

Good trader should: Preserve capital at first. From this base, make enters to possible moves due to volatility, speed, market temper... Use snowballs as reflection of these markets demonstrations. Goal is to feel it and get in when possible. Get out when uncertain. Attack from good basis, rescue safely and quickly with possible cut. And do this when head is in good condition... Thats my ... current view..
  • #15,825
  • Jun 2, 2010 1:13pm Jun 2, 2010 1:13pm
oh no!
if boss goes then i'll also go back into hiding again.

i just came back coz i saw fti started posting again, now he's leaving....
  • #15,826
  • Jun 2, 2010 1:24pm Jun 2, 2010 1:24pm
He is not leaving. He just said, that everything we should know was already said...
  • #15,827
  • Jun 2, 2010 1:28pm Jun 2, 2010 1:28pm
fti, God bless you. This thread will be nothing without you, but I will check back from time to time to drop you a note. Please ignore the sniffing dogs who stop by here, offering their mindless and meaningless comments about your contribution and your teachings. They are nothing and should be ignored. I am honored to have exchanged posts with you and wish it were possible to know you better. You have my best wishes for a peaceful and profitable future.

Edit: I just discovered a Google search that helps me translate some of your comments. I just got "ai ya" -- and I agree with that sentiment.
  • #15,828
  • Edited 2:01pm Jun 2, 2010 1:33pm | Edited 2:01pm
Quoting GEfx
fti, God bless you. This thread will be nothing without you, but I will check back from time to time to drop you a note. Please ignore the sniffing dogs who stop by here, offering their mindless and meaningless comments about your contribution and your teachings. They are nothing and should be ignored. I am honored to have exchanged posts with you and wish it were possible to know you better. You have my best wishes for a peaceful and profitable future.
Notice that I am not baselessly insulting anyone.

What I'm doing is explaining the problems I have had with this thread and FTI's mode of teaching. I don't understand why plain language is not used, for starters. Like I said, I can't comment on the information presented until I re-read it and try to set it out in a logical and drivel-free way.

EDIT: PS. Once I have re-written, in plain English, everything that may be of value in the first 100 or so pages, I Will post it here for all to read. I may, more than likely, have to ask in this thread for clarification on points.
Living the adventure in my head.
  • #15,829
  • Jun 2, 2010 2:10pm Jun 2, 2010 2:10pm
Quoting Fana
Fti, if am i right...???

Good trader should: Preserve capital at first. From this base, make enters to possible moves due to volatility, speed, market temper... Use snowballs as reflection of these markets demonstrations. Goal is to feel it and get in when possible. Get out when uncertain. Attack from good basis, rescue safely and quickly with possible cut. And do this when head is in good condition... Thats my ... current view..
Hi Fana,

Again, and again...

It is from Musgrove:

http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...postcount=5367

http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...postcount=4657

Rgs,

Textor

P.S.: Read also the very didactic posts of Auxesis and the 2nd Lusan, not the 1st Lusan, ES UN CHISTE LUSAN....

Learning by doing!

Try to trade naked, I don't mean without clothes, I mean without
second thoughts, false assumptions (False because you/we do not have the necessary information to check it nor the experience)
Remember we are OUTSIDERS in this business.
You can see it also in this way: We are the prey, not the hunter.

The rest is in the thread. As everyone says: in the first 200 pages ....

As I write this, I remember your charts, a practical advice: try to trade less,
send your scout and have patience to enter, the price-movement need
time to develop. AND, your capital, from what I understand, is too small,
then in the same way your attacks must be proportionate to your capital.
  • #15,830
  • Jun 2, 2010 2:34pm Jun 2, 2010 2:34pm
Quoting textor
Hi Fana,

Again, and again...

It is from Musgrove:

http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...postcount=5367

http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...postcount=4657

Rgs,

Textor

P.S.: Read also the very didactic posts of Auxesis and the 2nd Lusan, not the 1st Lusan, ...
Naked trading.... omg.... She maybe does 1000pips/day....
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  • #15,831
  • Jun 2, 2010 2:37pm Jun 2, 2010 2:37pm
Quoting Leonlorenzo
Notice that I am not baselessly insulting anyone.

What I'm doing is explaining the problems I have had with this thread and FTI's mode of teaching. I don't understand why plain language is not used, for starters. Like I said, I can't comment on the information presented until I re-read it and try to set it out in a logical and drivel-free way.

EDIT: PS. Once I have re-written, in plain English, everything that may be of value in the first 100 or so pages, I Will post it here for all to read. I may, more than likely, have to ask in this thread...
A teacher/mentor is one who shapes ones mind and thinking ultimately freeing the student to make better decisions from a framework that is both nimble but with a broad perspective, able to perform in many and various situations.

What you desire, Leonlorenzo is not a teacher/mentor, but a mommy to tell you what to do and when to do it.

The perspective FTI has brought to this thread is quite remarkable. Yet many of you have not taken the time to truly understand the depth of knowledge that has been on display. Many of you desire a system du jour, instead, you have been given a profound framework, a philosophy of trading. If you can not figure out why this is important, let me break it down for you: you are hungry and instead of being given a fish, you have been taught to fish. Eat for a day, or eat for a lifetime? Your choice.

Unfortunately, the students think they know more than the master and demand knowledge from him with the audacity to call some of the teaching "drivel." FTI does not owe anyone of you or me anything. Trading is not an entitlement, it is Darwinian: survival of the fittest.

If you do not want to work at it, if you feel you are some how entitled, why not just give me your money now, and save yourself, because I will take it from you and will inflect as much pain as I can in the process.
  • #15,832
  • Jun 2, 2010 2:57pm Jun 2, 2010 2:57pm
Quoting xtsunami
A teacher/mentor is one who shapes ones mind and thinking ultimately freeing the student to make better decisions from a framework that is...
True to the last word.

Regards
  • #15,833
  • Jun 2, 2010 3:01pm Jun 2, 2010 3:01pm
Quoting xtsunami
A teacher/mentor is one who shapes ones mind and thinking ultimately freeing the student to make better decisions from a framework that is both nimble but with a broad perspective, able to perform in many and various situations.

What you desire, Leonlorenzo is not a teacher/mentor, but a mommy to tell you what to do and when to do it.
OK, I can see you have got me completely wrong.

There is a difference between wanting a trading method on a plate, and wanting substance in a comprehensible format. I don't even 'want' substance, the problem is that FTI and his disciples claim that he offers it. Nobody here can say that his 'method' works or not because it is so open to interpretation.

What are the foundations of this 'method'? Tell me how you would identify an opportunity to send in a 'scout'. The method needs to be objective and have rules to be able to consistently execute it correctly.

You don't know me, and so you wouldn't know about my work ethic, and belief in the value of hard work... so don't comment on it.

PS:

Why write "many and various situations"? The words 'many' and 'various' perform the same functions in the sentence. Your posts are to a large degree phatic, as are FTI's.

I could carry on addressing the nonsensical sentences and vague information presented in this thread.
Living the adventure in my head.
  • #15,834
  • Jun 2, 2010 3:11pm Jun 2, 2010 3:11pm
Take this post directed toward me as an example:

"what a joke.(flattery gets you everywhere)
Trying learn something you cannot believe in.
Ai ya , go flap your wings and fly la.

I still have my flight manuals with me.
Do you want me send them to you?
You can build a cupboard box ,cockpit.
and after some time you will get your wings just like you will learn to be a profitable trader. At your own rules." FTI

Why not say what he intends to in an easy to understand way? Is he playing with me by addressing my disliking to his hard to comprehend 'teachings' by making his response even harder to understand?

There's a lot to be said for being direct.
Living the adventure in my head.
  • #15,835
  • Jun 2, 2010 3:18pm Jun 2, 2010 3:18pm
Please, somebody here take the time to try and (at least for yourself) condense what you have learnt here to a text document. Have it set out exactly what to do and in which situations, so it is not possible for one to make decisions based on random 'feelings'. If FTI's 'teachings' do not allow for this then you need to reflect on the time being spent here and what you could do instead which would give you greater reward.

I'm not the bad guy... I just know how easy it is to get lost in BS.
Living the adventure in my head.
  • #15,836
  • Jun 2, 2010 3:30pm Jun 2, 2010 3:30pm
Quoting Leonlorenzo
Please, somebody here take the time to try and (at least for yourself) condense what you have learnt here to a text document. Have it set out exactly what to do and in which situations, so it is not possible for one to make decisions based on random 'feelings'. If FTI's 'teachings' do not allow for this then you need to reflect on the time being spent here and what you could do instead which would give you greater reward.

I'm not the bad guy... I just know how easy it is to get lost in BS.
Here's something for you to think about: I have been following fti's teachings and I am profitable. I know most of the guys around here can say the same. Can you say the same about your textbook stuff that you seem to be collecting?

Reread what xtsunami wrote. I am getting the feeling that you thought it was address to you personally. It wasn't. Put your ego away and try it again.

One more thing - English is second language to most of us.
And maybe fti's haiku style serves a purpose... what provokes your thinking process more - a riddle or a straight question? Now I sound like him, right? Hah...

Not looking for an argument here.

Regards
  • #15,837
  • Jun 2, 2010 3:59pm Jun 2, 2010 3:59pm
Quoting Leonlorenzo
Please, somebody here take the time to try and (at least for yourself) condense what you have learnt here to a text document.
To do this would be like 對牛彈琴

or kaster perler for svin metaphorically speaking

Because English is not my first language I find fti's teaching very clear


If I remember correctly this is not the first time you show frustrastions, the fact you keep coming back tells me you see value in the teaching.

Regards,
  • #15,838
  • Jun 2, 2010 4:14pm Jun 2, 2010 4:14pm
Quoting Leonlorenzo
Please, somebody here take the time to try and (at least for yourself) condense what you have learnt here to a text document. Have it set out exactly what to do and in which situations, so it is not possible for one to make decisions based on random 'feelings'. If FTI's 'teachings' do not allow for this then you need to reflect on the time being spent here and what you could do instead which would give you greater reward.

I'm not the bad guy... I just know how easy it is to get lost in BS.
You were rude and out of line making grammer suggestions to xtsunami, so please help me better understand what you are saying in your post. Do you want somebody to "try and condense" or to "try to condense" what they have learned here? Your grammer is nothing to write home about.

I have met many fine people from all around the world here on FF, but I think I hit the jackpot with the TAF thread. This is a unique group of people, especially the leader of this group, fti. We have people from all over the world participating in this learning experience, which is sometimes challenging due to the differences in cultures and languages. The thing that makes this thread work, however, is respect for one another.

Leon, I have been around FF enough to have run in to you on several other threads. You are one of the people I try to avoid, because you are usually a smart ass and a trouble maker. Even your reference to Psalms 137:9 is a statement meant to inflame (if you don't know, atheists use this as an example of biblical immorality). Leon is typical of some FF participant who want a trading method handed to them on a silver platter, but when they fail to execute the method, then it is stupid and must not work for anyone (helps explain thier failures in life).

This is a public thread and Leon has a right to post here. We can ignore him and maybe he'll go away if no one will engage him (he gets satisfaction when he exercises the art of argument). Think of him as a fart in an elevator.

Sorry, I usually do not get this exercised, but someone this insignificant being critical of fti just kind of get to me.
  • #15,839
  • Jun 2, 2010 4:14pm Jun 2, 2010 4:14pm
Quoting fti
hey, baifu

Ai ya not so serious la.
be the baifu you are.

What i forgot to say is that some of you people here are already on the ball.

Its only a matter of more practise. Remember to hold to basics and reinforce your mindset often.

You know you are on the right track, just watch your bottom line. Its your only gauge, (indicator ))

Deviate from the thin red line and you will see your gauge drop. Remember.

Good Fortune
regards
Dear fti,

Thank you for the encouragement, it means a lot to us although you probably never know how much we have benefited from your knowledge.

Rgs,
Baifu
  • #15,840
  • Jun 2, 2010 4:23pm Jun 2, 2010 4:23pm
Quoting Leonlorenzo
OK, I can see you have got me completely wrong.

There is a difference between wanting a trading method on a plate, and wanting substance in a comprehensible format. I don't even 'want' substance, the problem is that FTI and his disciples claim that he offers it. Nobody here can say that his 'method' works or not because it is so open to interpretation.

What are the foundations of this 'method'? Tell me how you would identify an opportunity to send in a 'scout'. The method needs to be objective and have rules to be able to consistently execute...

Me thinks the "issue" is not with what has been said in this thread, as a whole, what I said, or how I said it, but is within the one who read it.

Grammatically the sentence stands. Though many and various function as adjectives, both have distinct meanings. Much like saying you are a pathetic and misinformed exegete. Both have adjectives with distinct meanings.

Perhaps you should be more concerned with learning than criticizing.
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