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  • #1,721
  • Jun 1, 2010 6:48pm Jun 1, 2010 6:48pm
I was right at first .......And still no knowledge to prove it.....

Is this wave 5 of 1 of 3 big pattern down complete.....or wave 3 and 3 of 3 coming up......

this chart blew my mind........sometimes the best answer is the previous trend.....and when i measured to the wave 3 or usually where wave 1 ends of new pattern in opposite direction..... I got this......for me very scary.......although this is what the time analysis supports and the Gbp supports..........And what I thought how it would be coherent with the stalk market like a swiss watch........

I got confused because rules are fulfilled in 2 different ways............Somehow I knew wave 3 will not be an easy trade like people say that it is the opportunity......I thought not in a bear market with lots of big sharks loosing........they will manipulate this market.......
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  • #1,722
  • Jun 1, 2010 9:09pm Jun 1, 2010 9:09pm
may be it s time to short it with sl of 150 pips target 1.4540
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  • #1,723
  • Jun 1, 2010 10:11pm Jun 1, 2010 10:11pm
Don't laugh Jefftrader. If you check out my calls, I have made about 15 straight winning calls. And I don't profess to say it is all me. Far from it.

Grandpost can posit all the time factors he wants, and it is interesting watching him speculate out loud with this.

But I have a little friend, who suddenly draws brief lines on my metatrader for a minute or so, indicating where a trade will go, then it vanishes.

I hope by revealing this, it doesn't leave me. There, its out. I don't feel better, but it is what it is.
  • #1,724
  • Jun 1, 2010 10:26pm Jun 1, 2010 10:26pm
Quoting nawafasad1
may be it s time to short it with sl of 150 pips target 1.4540
imho,,must watch 1.6110 first,,just my view..
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  • #1,725
  • Jun 2, 2010 1:50am Jun 2, 2010 1:50am
Quoting steroidman
Don't laugh Jefftrader. If you check out my calls, I have made about 15 straight winning calls. And I don't profess to say it is all me. Far from it.

Grandpost can posit all the time factors he wants, and it is interesting watching him speculate out loud with this.

But I have a little friend, who suddenly draws brief lines on my metatrader for a minute or so, indicating where a trade will go, then it vanishes.

I hope by revealing this, it doesn't leave me. There, its out. I don't feel better, but it is what it is.
I have noticed and I don't laugh... I'm a lot more versed in the SPI then I let on.
Gold 4hr...
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  • #1,726
  • Jun 2, 2010 2:04am Jun 2, 2010 2:04am
Quoting grandpost
I was right at first .......And still no knowledge to prove it.....

Is this wave 5 of 1 of 3 big pattern down complete.....or wave 3 and 3 of 3 coming up......

this chart blew my mind........sometimes the best answer is the previous trend.....and when i measured to the wave 3 or usually where wave 1 ends of new pattern in opposite direction..... I got this......for me very scary.......although this is what the time analysis supports and the Gbp supports..........And what I thought how it would be coherent with the stalk market like a swiss watch...........
One kink in forecasting with mt4-- in the future-- mt4 has Saturdays in it- but eliminates them in the past.
  • #1,727
  • Jun 2, 2010 6:22am Jun 2, 2010 6:22am
Takin some partial profits. Four bucks, makes the remaining pretty well a freebie. Have to travel and don't want to be concentrating on anything.

This makes 16. I don't trade unless I KNOW.
  • #1,728
  • Jun 2, 2010 6:26am Jun 2, 2010 6:26am
GU 1 hr...
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  • #1,729
  • Jun 2, 2010 6:30am Jun 2, 2010 6:30am
Quoting Jefftrader
GU 1 hr...
Thanks for your graph.

Could you please explain your analysis ? Where your EW analysis would/could send GU ?
  • #1,730
  • Jun 2, 2010 7:13am Jun 2, 2010 7:13am
Wav4 should last ~8-10hrs-- meaning range for US session most likely between 1.4742 and 1.4661 to form a triangle correction.

wav5 would ended around 1.4840ish-- Asia or before london tomorrow. Since asia trend was good last night- could occur again tonight (but very rarely three sessions in a row).

Need to wait for the 1hr Oscillator to cross 0 before confirmation of wav4-And a second cross above zero for wav4 to be complete. Obviously several hours away.

Another scenerio is wav3 would be extended- which is why in wav3's I always buy the 38% retrace. In this case we would continue upward trend in the next few hours and I would need to recalculate...

And of course there is always a chance we fall to parity...so plan your trades accordingly.
  • #1,731
  • Jun 2, 2010 7:26am Jun 2, 2010 7:26am
First it was volumes ....now a friend.....( I hope not an imaginary one).....Until you share your method here you have no credibility from me ....sorry if it sounds harsh.....I believe anybody can beat me with moving averages.....if you do have such a method .....history proven ......teach me......



Quoting steroidman
Don't laugh Jefftrader. If you check out my calls, I have made about 15 straight winning calls. And I don't profess to say it is all me. Far from it.

Grandpost can posit all the time factors he wants, and it is interesting watching him speculate out loud with this.

But I have a little friend, who suddenly draws brief lines on my metatrader for a minute or so, indicating where a trade will go, then it vanishes.

I hope by revealing this, it doesn't leave me. There, its out. I don't feel better, but it is what it is.
  • #1,732
  • Jun 2, 2010 7:45am Jun 2, 2010 7:45am
Stop hunts on GU buying more
  • #1,733
  • Jun 2, 2010 8:26am Jun 2, 2010 8:26am
thanks jeff.....I just did the opposite......can you tell me entry method


Quoting Jefftrader
Stop hunts on GU buying more
  • #1,734
  • Jun 2, 2010 8:40am Jun 2, 2010 8:40am
If I understood you right .......you didn't wait the 8-10 hours.........no triangle was formed........price broke down your wave 4 support.........and you didn't wait for confirmation above zero as you explained in wave 4........And you seeme certain not before Asia hours is your buy...........

THEN You BOUGHT and YOU BOUGHT MORE.......While the market did the opposite........quite simply I SOLD BASED on that........I had same analysis as you almost but............I feel the trap.........and they are going against pattern traders your quote " STop Hunt over"

So the market is going opposite all that .......go with the market............



Quoting Jefftrader
Wav4 should last ~8-10hrs-- meaning range for US session most likely between 1.4742 and 1.4661 to form a triangle correction.

wav5 would ended around 1.4840ish-- Asia or before london tomorrow. Since asia trend was good last night- could occur again tonight (but very rarely three sessions in a row).

Need to wait for the 1hr Oscillator to cross...
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  • #1,735
  • Jun 2, 2010 8:56am Jun 2, 2010 8:56am
Quoting grandpost
thanks jeff.....I just did the opposite......can you tell me entry method
Since your short- I believe your are now looking for an extended wav3 downward on GU.


First 90min of US session--
GU dropped, EU dropped, UY raised.
UCHF HELD
UCAD HELD
EY Held
GY held

Now UCAD is dropping along with GU and EU and AU and gold is dropping


No Harmony in pairs.
  • #1,736
  • Jun 2, 2010 9:00am Jun 2, 2010 9:00am
If anybody interested I can explain it....
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  • #1,737
  • Jun 2, 2010 9:12am Jun 2, 2010 9:12am
Do you see what I am saying......I am just as confused as you are........they are playing with pattern traders.......this is meant to be a crisis cycle......

anyhow didn't you just go opposite your analysis?

and when the market goes opposite your analysis doesn't that give a sell signal.....if not at least not add more buys......and when someone feels market manipulation like you said stop hunts......i EXITED 2% returns on account 10 min of trading.......a coward ....or just unhealthy my nerves can't take it.....when there is no knowledge to back me up.....

I think your buy is coming very soon and back to pattern traders.......I see it in the 3rd chart i posted......divergence.........and oscilliator extremes to register bigger pattern corrections and started and complete you can see it on oscilliator extremes....

NOW extremes is WAVE1 of 3 of 3 and it should be at EXTREMES and this is what throws people off guard.......you know oscilliators shift up and down depending on trend......and extremes register in same area depending on size of pattern.......



Quoting Jefftrader
Since your short- I believe your are now looking for an extended wav3 downward on GU.


First 90min of US session--
GU dropped, EU dropped, UY raised.
UCHF HELD
UCAD HELD
EY Held
GY held

Now UCAD is dropping along with GU and EU and AU and gold is dropping


No Harmony in pairs.
  • #1,738
  • Jun 2, 2010 9:58am Jun 2, 2010 9:58am
If it helps...
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  • #1,739
  • Jun 2, 2010 10:21am Jun 2, 2010 10:21am
i am seeing doubles......more aggressive...more cowardly.....mind you this one was not closed in profit yet.....will run
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  • #1,740
  • Jun 2, 2010 10:47am Jun 2, 2010 10:47am
measuring 1 to 3 then moving tool to match dojis and previous trend...........

Then shifting wave 3 or could be b (I measured to it) to the 1.272....one more candle and we go bear again.....I entered early small lot to test my time cycle.........especially there is .618 near by and I think that will be w 5 if not wave 4......I will add more as we get at that candle in beginning of hour or just a few minutes before that

this one now is in a loss entered early not enough tight following of new method even if it's right.....will add more to this one when perfect time pic comes and hopefully will turn things around.....
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