indicator madness. want to go from future to the past.

I have an indicator that waits for a signal when the line is not going up and not going down. It then waits for 1 bar in the future to determine to make a buy or sell. However what I want is that the indicator look 1 bar back to determine if it needs to make a sell or buy, instead to wait for the future to determine to make a sell or a buy.

thanks in advance

i guess it's the same as referring to the last 2 bars in the past

that is correct Lmyyyks

but how would i code it?

what line would i need to program to have it count 2 bars back?

just take two readings
1 use shift 1
another use shift 2

i tried it, but it didnt work. it will do my buys now even more later to the future lol.

so weird. i also tried alert in the indicator itself. and also there , the alarm shifts 15 minutes after the alarm should actually happen.

any more ideas or sugestions?

thanks

if you don't post indicator how does other member able to help you?

correct mtuppers.

i am sorry about that. it is just i cant put my finger to it why it fails.

so i attached the indicator.

hopefully someone will figure it out

thanks

haven't looked deep into that, but for WMA(), replace NULL with Symbol() first

the last parameter of the iCustom() function is the number of the bar you want. 0 is the current bar, 1 is the previous bar, and so on. So just call iCustom() with the number of the bar you are interested in and you will get the indicator value at that bar.

with Icustom() i tried also the shift at the end. from number 1 till 9

does not work. instead of having it count the bars backwards it will actually add the sales forwards.

that is also what confuses me. why does it not count backwards, but forwards.

i also changed the Null to symbol()

still no go. weird weird weird.

it is basicly the only problem i have left with the Ea or this indicator.

what i also find strange is that i checked for the empty values. Up and down signal. and even if they are the same for like 30 minutes. it still wont do a buy or sell singal. it will only do, after the values change again.

just put the number of bar you want to shift, but then you have to deal with the line for the foremost y bars

I've realized that it's impossible to do so, eventhough you've managed to shift the signal n bars forward, because at the value of the current MA is zero, you won't be able to know the signal until the current bar closes. That means it's the same as no shifting

ahhh ok.

so i always need to wait till the bar closes. now i understand why it always does a buy or sell to late.

that said. why cant it just close the sell or the the buy when UP = Empty_vaLue && Down= Empty value. why does it have to wait till the full bar is closed for that.

i want it to sell or buy or close order the moment it becomes that state. even when signal is false dont matter. then sell again when signal changes. eventually we establish a trend anyway. so lose only money a bit.

trade4fun,

as per your req.

use my customized HMA below, call iCustom like this:
assign shift = 0 to get the signal immediately after the color change
assign shift = 1 to get the signal after bar closed

isUp = True means at that time, HMA change direction from up to down
isDn = True means at that time, HMA change direction from down to up

i also attach the sample tester EA.

let me know how it work on your side

thank you for helping however still the same problem.

pic below show screenshot of HMA slope line, see if you can understand the logic about how the indicator paint the line

dear sangmane,

thank you for your input.

i think understand the problem,

the indicator is constructed to bars. however for me it is not about the bar closed. it about the signal and i dont mind taking that risk. i mean would it not be possible to have, if signal slopeup stays up for 3 seconds then do buy. if signal stays down for 3 seconds do a sell. if signal stays up for 2 seconds stay on orginal signal. above is just example. because using a longer template like 4 hours. it should have a longer time input.

but for me important is i like to have a buy or sell at the point the line changes color. not when the bar is finnished, because then it is way to late.

most times a signal stays for a certain time already shows a trend is coming. and if not. i dont mind taking that small lost. because eventually that trend will come.

so hopefully you have an idea how this can be fixed.

thanks in advance and have a nice weekend

hi traderfun,
run the attached tester EA on H4. make sure TickBased=True.
for strategy tester, use EveryTick option.
put HMAColorLine on the chart and watch closely tick by tick when the HMA line's color change from blue to red/red to blue, EA will open buy/sellorder immediately without waiting for bar close.

Dear SangMane,

thanks again for helping me, however.....

i let the tester go for tonight. hoever the same problem still occur. on the 4 hour template, it will do a buy or sell, 4 hours after the line has changed color.

after the 4 hour it seems it does a buy, close, sell which i think happens because at that point of time the indicator changes color again?

anyway if you got the time please check out the picture.

and as always thanks for your time for helping me, truelly appriciated.

trade4fun,

it seems you have not yet understood the explanation on the pic at post #16.

according to your recent pic, although the blue line is drawn start from 2010.05.07 08:00 , but this color change occured at 12:00. indicator repaint previous bar's color in order to make the line having new color visible. you need at least two point to construct a line.

i suggest you to do the following experiment:
- run EA in strategy tester, every tick, move speed slider to the left (don't use 32) to make the tick run slowly enough so that you won't miss any color change between ticks
- zoom in, use the max zoom
- observe the line's color from 08:00 to 12:00. if you see the line color turns from red to blue between this time interval, immediately hit Alt+Print Screen key (PrtScr) to capture the bitmap of the active window to the clipboard, open Paint program, new file, and paste the clipboard content, post the picture.