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  • #1,561
  • May 12, 2010 2:59pm May 12, 2010 2:59pm
See you at nite guys, i have to go out.

Nice trading!
  • #1,562
  • May 12, 2010 3:24pm May 12, 2010 3:24pm
Quoting fxsignal
Having been stopped out on my euro trade I decided to look at the charts again. I think that the EURUSD will not recover until somewhere in the first week of august 2010. It could be forming a big ABCD pattern. I was hoping for a rally today, but having looked at it again I think that this will just be a corrective move up, not a significant 2000 pip humdinger.

I post the chart here for you all to see.
In your chart AB should equal CD in length (AB=CD) that would target 1.14, little less...

Commodities cycle with the Saturn cycle and for august the range on eurusd is 1.09 for support and 1.33 for resistance.
A break through a line, for instance resistance, that will then become support and resistance would be 24 points (2400 pips) higher.

On august 19 the sun will travel through the 24 degree line which would mean a short term high or low, depending on the trend.

Uranus will change sign on the 14th from Aries to PI.
  • #1,563
  • May 12, 2010 8:46pm May 12, 2010 8:46pm
Quoting fxsignal
Also, lets apply one of Ganns ideas, its called balancing time, Gann was a very able trader and to my mind a scientist that approached the market with a systematic system. One of his methods was to look at time overbalancing.

Simply measure a previous swing from top to bottom, top to top or bottom to bottom, then project it from the last high or low made.
fxsignal... Measuring swings like that in price/time is something I do often. But in my experience and study, it rarely works out arbitrarily. There are numbers of vibration that will fit like a glove using your measurement method, but you have to find those first to figure out a simple balanced time projection. And then you can be spot on with your balanced time measurement.

However, if you dig deeper, when Gann talks about over balancing and lost motion, it's a deeper clue. Meaning treating price and time as separate entities will result in lost synchronicity. It's when time and price are treated as a single unit that price-time is balanced although it doesn't look like it on the chart.

The other thing about balanced price-time units is that the balance isn't a single point. It's many. I believe that's why he spends so much time talking about 1/8ths and divisions of the circle. My chart below shows my measurement off of the same swing you did. The yellow is the "chart balanced" 36 bars. The magenta is 36 units of price-time. Notice that it splits the Gann Square in 2. I could use a different harmonic and it will be a full cycle, but this measurement is more in line with the a 1h chart.

Now.. all of that is fine and dandy, but what matters is how you trade and what you're doing is just fine as long as you take care of risk. I think most Gann peddlers out there spend so much time talking about the esoteric side of Gann and ignore the fact that the guy spent a lot of time just talking about trade management and basic run of the mill chart patterns. Wait for pull-backs, etc.
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  • #1,564
  • May 12, 2010 8:57pm May 12, 2010 8:57pm
Quoting TheArcher
i've been thinking ... could the planetary cycles be a proxy for the moving averages cross over .... ?

that leads me to this :

let's say we take one currency pair ... and use one distant slow moving planet (Jupiter, Saturn, Pluto , Uranus ) and correlate the aspects (0, 60, 90, 120, 150, 180 etc degrees) with the faster spinning planets (moon, sun,mars, mercury , venus ) and see which two planets give very close correlation to the swings in the price .

eg :

USDJPY -- Jupiter vs Moon , Jupiter vs Sun, Jupiter vs Venus etc at various degrees

USDJPY...
What you've described is pretty much my usage for astro. Find which hands of the big clock happens to be in sync with a market and time frame and watch for price reaction when price and time hook up. In my experience, the shorter cycles will change often so you're always having to find which one is hot. Moreover, plot enough of them and they're all valid. Just need to pay attention to price's reaction when they arrive. That's part of the equation people need to consider... price AND time.

The bigger concept is to find the bigger cycles and then drill down the harmonics to your preferred time frame. Example: Sat-Ur Helio Synodic is a 60 year cycle for the dow. Damn near spot on. There are other planet combinations that are natural harmonics on that cycle.

And finally, the last thing to consider is sympathetic vibrational resonance. But I think I'll save that one for another time.
  • #1,565
  • May 12, 2010 9:00pm May 12, 2010 9:00pm
Quoting Deusomega
I'm all for taking a look at stuff . So do you think Market Esoterica is a good place to begin?
It's not a bad place to begin. But as it is with all of this esoteric stuff, it takes practice to really get the hang of it. Sometimes years.

Think of it like learning a musical instrument. You can read all the books you want about the piano, learn all sorts of music theory,but unless you actually practice the thing, you'll sound like a$$.
  • #1,566
  • May 12, 2010 9:12pm May 12, 2010 9:12pm
In that last chart I posted, I showed a grid measuring price-time with divisions of 8. Below is the chart I actually made my long euro decision from. Instead of 8ths, I looked at 9ths. Not a common division, but price had it once on a low and then dropped back down to it. Price squaring time. So I went long because of the squaring and s/r on a different chart. Currently up 28 and 12. I've highlighted where I anticipate some sort of reaction with a dotted vert. This all has nothing to do with astro per se but the concepts apply to astro as well as another method of forecasting time. And I also wanted to show a practical example of finding harmonics of price-time.
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  • #1,567
  • May 12, 2010 9:14pm May 12, 2010 9:14pm
JR97,
since u are talking about musical instruments... let me ask u:
which is easier to learn: playing the piano/drums or trading astro?
easier to achieve: satisfactory piano playing or satisfactory astro trading?
Thanks

btw, i play music (percussion instruments) ouido (by ear), no books.
is that possible in astro trading (no books... just articles/reading in fora like FF)?
  • #1,568
  • May 13, 2010 8:09am May 13, 2010 8:09am
Here's how that long played out. Small range channel wound up to the trendline and dropped. I'm short with the break of support and the most recent time line being a good hit so far. Anywho, last post on the subject since it's not astro related.
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  • #1,569
  • May 13, 2010 9:19am May 13, 2010 9:19am
For a better example of balancing price/time, go here:

http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...&postcount=152
  • #1,570
  • May 13, 2010 11:20am May 13, 2010 11:20am
Quoting JR97
What you've described is pretty much my usage for astro. Find which hands of the big clock happens to be in sync with a market and time frame ....
thank you very much for assurance of the direction !

so , now that we have got ' in-principle-approval ' for the 'roadmap' ... how about experimenters share thier findings ...?
  • #1,571
  • May 13, 2010 11:25am May 13, 2010 11:25am
Quoting tdion
it is a secret between all banks, and they trade it to be in sync with each other. In other words, no magical or gravitational influence on people's emotions, but simply a universally agreed upon code.
something i have been holding at the back of my mind all the while .
  • #1,572
  • May 13, 2010 7:11pm May 13, 2010 7:11pm
Guys,

Tomorrow a trine can be seen between jupiter, venus and saturn. Also a square between venus and jupiter on the 17th.
What can we expect from this?
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  • #1,573
  • May 13, 2010 8:21pm May 13, 2010 8:21pm
Quoting Ilovepippin
Guys,

Tomorrow a trine can be seen between jupiter, venus and saturn. Also a square between venus and jupiter on the 17th.
What can we expect from this?
That's actually a loose t-square you're looking at, not a trine. Notice how Venus, Jupiter, Saturn (and Uranus) are all in mutable signs and forming squares and oppositions to each other. It will be tightening up early next week. In the process Venus will square Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus.
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  • #1,574
  • May 13, 2010 8:57pm May 13, 2010 8:57pm
Quoting Pips_Cruiser
That's actually a loose t-square you're looking at, not a trine. Notice how Venus, Jupiter, Saturn (and Uranus) are all in mutable signs and forming squares and oppositions to each other. It will be tightening up early next week. In the process Venus will square Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus.
Thanks for the explanation.
But what will it mean for the markets?
  • #1,575
  • May 13, 2010 8:58pm May 13, 2010 8:58pm
Quoting Pips_Cruiser
That's actually a loose t-square you're looking at, not a trine. Notice how Venus, Jupiter, Saturn (and Uranus) are all in mutable signs and forming squares and oppositions to each other. It will be tightening up early next week. In the process Venus will square Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus.
hi cruiser, you are always accurate with astro interpretation, how are you?
mmhh about your post, whats is the expectation for that scene? i mean reaction of trends
  • #1,576
  • May 13, 2010 9:03pm May 13, 2010 9:03pm
I'm still a newbie at astro trading. But intuitively, a person would expect the world stock markets to be down during Venus squares. And when the world markets are down nowadays, that translates to USD and JPY growing stronger. Risk aversion . . .
  • #1,577
  • May 13, 2010 9:05pm May 13, 2010 9:05pm
Heyas!
today new moon, it will be in taurus (mundane astrology tell this is very financial relative) and if that is not making a reaction on trends i guess nothing it will do! lol and we can stay in south train.

some pairs seems in exhausted phase
  • #1,578
  • May 13, 2010 9:08pm May 13, 2010 9:08pm
Quoting zapmx
hi cruiser, you are always accurate with astro interpretation, how are you?
mmhh about your post, whats is the expectation for that scene? i mean reaction of trends
Hi Zap. I'm doing pretty well. Anything new with your "sensitive degrees" work? I haven't read about it lately.
  • #1,579
  • May 13, 2010 9:10pm May 13, 2010 9:10pm
Quoting Pips_Cruiser
I'm still a newbie at astro trading. But intuitively, a person would expect the world stock markets to be down during Venus squares. And when the world markets are down nowadays, that translates to USD and JPY growing stronger. Risk aversion . . .
so bad news i see
mercury direct was weak, just a upside peak of +100 pips, squares price time as JR told us failed too after few pips of gain. This new moon is the last chance to go a bit upside, maybe just for retracements, and then dropping like rock with all the massive squares. What do you think?
  • #1,580
  • May 13, 2010 9:17pm May 13, 2010 9:17pm
Quoting Pips_Cruiser
Hi Zap. I'm doing pretty well. Anything new with your "sensitive degrees" work? I haven't read about it lately.
they are not significant in past days and i am not risking when i saw a few of them in this massive phase of kaputs the falling knife bounced but there is still much strong momentum to down.
I was fortunate stealing to the market these 150pips of bounce up of .4800 of gbpusd but it was just tech trade. Price after that was falling consistently.

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