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  • #201
  • Mar 10, 2010 3:10am Mar 10, 2010 3:10am
Quoting SteveHopwood
Think twice before doing this live, then think a third time then change your mind. THG does generate losing trades and some of them can be quite large. Remember also the difference we are constantly seeing in the difference between demo and live feeds sent by so many of the criminals, that cause a robot's live performance to be nowhere nears as good as it is on demo.

If you go live, use the default lot sizing until you are sure that a bigger one will not wipe out your account if there is a string of losers.

Because of difference between demo and live I prefer livetesting on IBFX mini.
1 cent/pip.
Elovv
  • #202
  • Mar 10, 2010 5:19am Mar 10, 2010 5:19am
Quoting ForeverForex
My sell basket didn't take on one account (live) on tokyo open, but did on another (demo) - same criminal. Any ideas why this might happen. Only difference was Wave 2 was off on live account, but my understanding is that wave 2 would have been a buy basket.
FFx I believe most criminals' (if not all) live and demo feeds are different. I wonder what criminal that was.
  • #203
  • Mar 10, 2010 9:19am Mar 10, 2010 9:19am
Quoting DanyalDenyo
FFx I believe most criminals' (if not all) live and demo feeds are different. I wonder what criminal that was.
FXDD (Malta) was the live acct. FXDD was demo. don't know that they would have diff feeds. Saw that someone on main thread had trade on FXDD. Back in action for buy basket last night. Hopefully smooth sailing from here.
  • #204
  • Mar 10, 2010 12:16pm Mar 10, 2010 12:16pm
Quoting Elovv
Because of difference between demo and live I prefer livetesting on IBFX mini.
1 cent/pip.
Elovv
Very strange, Alpari demo 5 trades so far, Ibfx live mini 0 trades with Charvos variant of HG 1.6 EA

How can it be possible that Alpari demo trades buth not IBFX live mini?

Regards
Elovv
  • #205
  • Mar 10, 2010 2:57pm Mar 10, 2010 2:57pm
Quoting Elovv
Very strange, Alpari demo 5 trades so far, Ibfx live mini 0 trades with Charvos variant of HG 1.6 EA

How can it be possible that Alpari demo trades buth not IBFX live mini?

Regards
Elovv
They must have very different feeds. Ibfx doesn't even have some pairs AFAIK.

I am currently running THG 1.6 on both FxPro and Alpari Demo and they open positions on the same pairs in the same direction 90% of the time. Only FxPro demo ignores some of the trades.

I also run BoJ basket robot on these two criminals (both demo) with almost exact same results.

Still have no robot on a live account, haven't decided on it yet.
  • #206
  • Mar 11, 2010 4:38am Mar 11, 2010 4:38am
Does anybody using BOJ original 2.4 took loss last night?

I'm testing this one since 1st March and it produced three losses so far.
Let's see what happens next.

Another question: What are the best pairs to put the Holy Grail on? Is it GBPJPY and EURJPY as for Original?

Thanks for help

Baniu
Trade what you see, not what you expect. BE LIKE WATER MY FRIEND.
  • #207
  • Mar 13, 2010 4:02pm Mar 13, 2010 4:02pm
I have dropped using the 1H TF in favor of the 15M and then using the 1M and 5M as my "higher" TF's. The following results are live on IBFX.

Trading the following pairs EU, GU, EJ, GJ and AJ (AJ added on Thursday afternoon). The settings are:
1.) Immediate trade
2.) OB 86/90/94
3.) OS 14/10/6
4.) TP at 70/30
5.) RSI period set to 5 across all time frames
6.) starting lot set at 0.1

A total of 44 trades; 36W, 6L, and 2BE for a win/break even percentage of 86%. Total pips gained; 550 with a total ROI of 15.85%. There is also an AJ trade open in profit (which could change Sunday afternoon).

I'm going to change the RSI level to trigger the 2nd and 3rd trade so as to get into the trade a little later, which won't require as much retracement and hopefully provide a few more pips profit. Will likely go with 91/96 and 11/4.

Baniu, in relation to your question about THG. Simply place it on a GJ 15M chart as it is a multi-pair trading robot.
  • #208
  • Mar 14, 2010 5:37am Mar 14, 2010 5:37am
I've tried to answer in the main thread but I can't

So yes Scooby you have to multiply SL, TP, ... and Slippage by 10.
  • #209
  • Mar 15, 2010 7:03am Mar 15, 2010 7:03am
Does anyone know how to disable some pairs in THG 1.6?
  • #210
  • Mar 15, 2010 11:47am Mar 15, 2010 11:47am
Quoting fdxcrr
I have dropped using the 1H TF in favor of the 15M and then using the 1M and 5M as my "higher" TF's. The following results are live on IBFX.
Hi FDXCRR,

I've been playing around with TCF as well. Have you run any backtests? How are the drawdowns?
  • #211
  • Mar 15, 2010 5:50pm Mar 15, 2010 5:50pm
Quoting DanyalDenyo
Does anyone know how to disable some pairs in THG 1.6?
You have to be able to do some basic coding to be able to do this.

All traders should be capable of basic editing such as is needed to do what you want. Go to my mptm site and download the 'How to edit a script code' pdf. The lessons you learn there are applicable to any mql4 source code file. They will make your life much easier in a whole host of ways.

In THG, the code you are looking for is this one:
Inserted Code
string Pairs[] = {"AUDJPY","AUDUSD","CADJPY","CHFJPY","EURAUD",
                  "EURCAD","EURCHF","EURGBP","EURJPY","EURUSD",
                  "GBPJPY","GBPUSD","USDCAD","USDCHF","USDJPY"};
Once you know how to do some basic editing and recompiling, you can disable some of the pairs by removing them from the Pairs[] variable.

  • #212
  • Mar 15, 2010 5:55pm Mar 15, 2010 5:55pm
Quoting SteveHopwood
You have to be able to do some basic coding to be able to do this.

All traders should be capable of basic editing such as is needed to do what you want. Go to my mptm site and download the 'How to edit a script code' pdf. The lessons you learn there are applicable to any mql4 source code file. They will make your life much easier in a whole host of ways.

In THG, the code you are looking for is this one:
[code]string Pairs[] = {"AUDJPY","AUDUSD","CADJPY","CHFJPY","EURAUD",...
Thanks for your kind reply Steve. However I know some basic coding and I removed a pair from that list (EURCAD to be exact) and it ended up crashing the MT4 the bot ran on. I deleted that metatrader folder as it became useless.
  • #213
  • Mar 15, 2010 6:05pm Mar 15, 2010 6:05pm
Quoting DanyalDenyo
Thanks for your kind reply Steve. However I know some basic coding and I removed a pair from that list (EURCAD to be exact) and it ended up crashing the MT4 the bot ran on. I deleted that metatrader folder as it became useless.
mt4 is crap. It is ridiculously easy for the platform to become corrupted and unstable. It is mere coincidence that you removing one of the pairs from the list and recompiling led to the crash. This was coming anyhow.

Ask a demo account to do more than the very basics and it will crash the platform sooner rather than later. This is the price we pay for a 'free' trading platform.

  • #214
  • Mar 15, 2010 6:16pm Mar 15, 2010 6:16pm
I did it again and no crash this time, thanks Steve.
  • #215
  • Mar 15, 2010 6:30pm Mar 15, 2010 6:30pm
Quoting DanyalDenyo
I did it again and no crash this time, thanks Steve.
You are welcome.

Also, use the attached mt4 cleaner several times a week. The folders get cluttered up with useless log files that do nothing more than take up space and slow things down. This helps avoid regular platform crashes.

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File Type: zip MSFX-MT4Cleaner-Setup.zip   223 KB | 250 downloads
  • #216
  • Mar 15, 2010 7:13pm Mar 15, 2010 7:13pm
Hi doc816,

No, I have not back tested it as I don't believe you can do that with an EA that checks multiple TF's (at least that's what Scoobs has said on numerous occasions!).

In terms of DD it has been pretty good as far as I can tell. This morning it took all three trades on the GU and two trades on the GJ. When I woke up it was in a DD of about 5% but the GJ closed in profit and the GU "basket" ended up losing $0.10! Otherwise I've only seen DD in the 2-3% range.

On another note, changing the second and third RSI trigger to 91/96 and 9/4 worked pretty well. The GU dropped about 200 pips this morning and TCF took the third trade almost at the bottom of the trough.

Also, I'm already up about 6% this week!
  • #217
  • Mar 15, 2010 11:26pm Mar 15, 2010 11:26pm
Question; Is it possible on the original robot to only trade on the wave 1 strategy?

So it only takes sells at Tokyo open, and buys at Tokyo close.
I couldn't find this in the manual/settings.
  • #218
  • Mar 16, 2010 3:08am Mar 16, 2010 3:08am
Quoting pietpatat
Question; Is it possible on the original robot to only trade on the wave 1 strategy?

So it only takes sells at Tokyo open, and buys at Tokyo close.
I couldn't find this in the manual/settings.
Steve took care of that a while back. Version 2.3 I believe. 2.4 also, I would think. This was a week or two back.
  • #219
  • Mar 16, 2010 9:02pm Mar 16, 2010 9:02pm
Quoting fdxcrr
Hi doc816,

No, I have not back tested it as I don't believe you can do that with an EA that checks multiple TF's (at least that's what Scoobs has said on numerous occasions!).
!
Interesting. I've been banging my head against the wall trying to figure out why it always blows up the account in backtesting. I guess it deserves a demo run too see how it fares in forward testing.
  • #220
  • Mar 17, 2010 1:29am Mar 17, 2010 1:29am
Hi

This boot can trade both pending trades and market trades. Anyone can explain the difference? I know what pending trades is, but is market trades the same trades sends to market by the boot when mt4 execute pending trades?

Steve, why do You only use pending trades?

Regards
Elovv
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