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  • #81
  • Mar 4, 2010 6:53am Mar 4, 2010 6:53am
Hey, I noticed the timeout setting is incorrect. It's supposed to say 300 instead of 5400 when the order is open. I suppose I will have to try and fix that.

Oh, modified the indicator code Dazz II. It looks like it's still having problems opening pending orders when using both indicators though. Or, maybe not. I don't know why it too so long though?
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  • #82
  • Edited 8:55am Mar 4, 2010 8:18am | Edited 8:55am
Quoting ecTrade
Hey, it looks like it's going up anyway. A couple of nasty looking spikes there in the beginning though.

So which pair were you using? ... and what about the dates?
hi ec,

it is euro/us,

i think has no problem if use SL < than TP.
most of the time is winning...

yes, if use big SL need spike filter protection to close early.
i think all the ea need SL management, can use trailing or moving SL to break even... and time management. and that would be perfect... because all the feature is the best ec...

i am trying to combine with swiss army ea( profit and SL management ea), but not working yet to move SL to break even after pips winning...
swiss ea it is confusing setup

feb 1 to march 03, 2010.
  • #83
  • Edited 10:25am Mar 4, 2010 8:34am | Edited 10:25am
Quoting ecTrade
Hey, I noticed the timeout setting is incorrect. It's supposed to say 300 instead of 5400 when the order is open. I suppose I will have to try and fix that.

Oh, modified the indicator code Dazz II. It looks like it's still having problems opening pending orders when using both indicators though. Or, maybe not. I don't know why it too so long though?
hi ec,

ok... that why i am wondering why that long... 5400, but it is all working fine

ec, that pending takes a long time because sometimes it is stop/pause, i think because that stochastic is not loading properly...

after you close it the chart and restart, it is working again and later it stop again..

it never happened before, maybe because that stochastic loading problem...

the last version dazz II 1.2 still have stochastic problem only 1.4 have no problem loading.
  • #84
  • Mar 8, 2010 4:47pm Mar 8, 2010 4:47pm
hi ec,

any new version fix dazz II?
about dazz 1.4 is it the time out adjustable?

thx
  • #85
  • Mar 9, 2010 1:21pm Mar 9, 2010 1:21pm
No, I was working on the Switcher EA and made some headway there, but have since come up with another idea. It actually works! Unfortunately it doesn't work over the long run, like when the Euro took a nose dive against the US dollar recently. This is basically why I haven't traded for the last three months.
  • #86
  • Mar 9, 2010 5:43pm Mar 9, 2010 5:43pm
Quoting ecTrade
No, I was working on the Switcher EA and made some headway there, but have since come up with another idea. It actually works! Unfortunately it doesn't work over the long run, like when the Euro took a nose dive against the US dollar recently. This is basically why I haven't traded for the last three months.
Yeah!


If there's some improvement on Switcher, please let us know, ecTrade...
You could also share it with me and Tulipevierge...


And yeah, about it won't work over the long run, i think all EAs will never stand against long nose dive like EUR/USD did for the last 3 months, ecTrade.
So, it's alright.
We (especially Tulipevierge) could test it on another currency, right?

Hehe!

Great work, my friend!
  • #87
  • Mar 10, 2010 8:11pm Mar 10, 2010 8:11pm
Are you guys ready to Shake and Bake? Check your Yahoos! ...
  • #88
  • Mar 10, 2010 10:09pm Mar 10, 2010 10:09pm
Quoting ecTrade
Are you guys ready to Shake and Bake? Check your Yahoos! ...
hi ec,

thank you for S&B, wow that is awesome, it is working fine...

about having No SL, is it closing by signal or have hidden SL?

switcher and S&B have no time out like Daze to manage profit management(time out base time or trailing profit or moving SL), what do you think will be the best to optimize?

dazz 1,2 and 1.4 i think can use in real if having SL management... and time management to prevent a lot of opening and minimize risk....

and later fokus to switcher and S&B...both of them especially S&B that can set with TF will reduce the opening, that is the best, less opening with more ratio to win
  • #89
  • Mar 10, 2010 10:36pm Mar 10, 2010 10:36pm
The stoploss isn't necessary. It's based upon a formula. Where, when each order closes below the original or first, it "pads" the equity ... which, once it reaches a certain point (in profit above the first) it closes all trades and starts over again. So, the timeouts aren't nearly as important in that regard.

That isn't to say I can't add them, just that there's a lot of other things I can do with the Dazz "Plus" idea (basically what this EA is based on) right now. I am thinking about using some sort of trailing stop or adjustable take profit, however.

Also, the time frame doesn't matter, if you are not using an indicator does it? Currently it doesn't operate (properly) using the indicator. I am only using it in Buy mode, or Option 1. Option 2 is also available, which is Sell mode.
  • #90
  • Mar 10, 2010 10:53pm Mar 10, 2010 10:53pm
Quoting ecTrade
The stoploss isn't necessary. It's based upon a formula. Where, when each order closes below the original or first, it "pads" the equity ... which, once it reaches a certain point (in profit above the first) it closes all trades and starts over again. So, the timeouts aren't nearly as important in that regard.
There's also a bit of a Martingale involved, where the lot size increases by 50% (i.e., from 1.0 to 1.5, to 2.25, etc.) with each trade successively placed below the first. It's not a full blown Martingale, however. It's based more on the idea of "buy low and sell high," which the Dazz Plus idea (adjustable pending orders) allows you to do. Of course that isn't to say there's no room for tweaking and optimization, because I think there is. In fact I have several ideas already.
  • #91
  • Mar 10, 2010 11:28pm Mar 10, 2010 11:28pm
Oh, if there is little or no price movement (or beginning of a trend, or reversal), this EA basically won't open any orders or, that's pretty close to the way it works. So, in that regard opening is not that big of an issue either. The problem occurs when the market suddenly changes (as it did recently with the EUR/USD) and drops by one or two thousand points. So I have to find a way to handle that sort of transition, and this is the only time opening and closing should become an issue.

Although if you are going to open, it would probably be best to open at the beginning of a trend. Likewise with closing. It would be best to do so when the price begins to reverse. This is why I'm still considering the possibility of an indicator, which doesn't have to be terribly accurate, so long as it works "reasonably" well.
  • #92
  • Edited 11:47pm Mar 10, 2010 11:33pm | Edited 11:47pm
hi ec,

thank you for the explanation i only little bit understand, it is kind a bit confusing how it close when it lose position, but i will ask juannie to translate....

well i know you do the best idea... i will follow you when it is ready with the real...


do you think when market suddenly change like in euro/us above you mentioned... that code measure how many pips will move in seconds will work to prevent it with to close early and hybernate? >> it is like spike protector
  • #93
  • Mar 10, 2010 11:46pm Mar 10, 2010 11:46pm
Quoting tulipevierge
do you think when market suddenly change like in euro/us above you mentioned... that code measure how many pips will move in seconds will work to prevent it with to close early and hybernate?
Possibly.

Oh, here is a snapshot of a modified version (without too much tweaking and adjusting) that will open more trades within a certain time frame, so you don't have to sit there all day waiting for something to happen. I decreased the lot size and number of points between orders. It still works basically the same and, of course you can see the big crash towards the middle of December last year. I also set the lot size to 0.5 instead of 3.3. This is why the profit was significantly smaller, at the time it crashed.

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Also, the profit margin and absolute drawdown is about three times worse than the other version so, I should probably stick with that one.
  • #94
  • Mar 11, 2010 12:02am Mar 11, 2010 12:02am
Quoting tulipevierge
do you think when market suddenly change like in euro/us above you mentioned... that code measure how many pips will move in seconds will work to prevent it with to close early and hybernate? >> it is like spike protector
Another time to close (and hibernate) would be during the news. This is what happened the last time when the EUR/USD collapsed. If I had closed everything out beforehand, and waited a day or two to see what happened, I would probably still be trading right now.
  • #95
  • Mar 11, 2010 12:35am Mar 11, 2010 12:35am
Quoting tulipevierge
hi ec,

thank you for the explanation i only little bit understand, it is kind a bit confusing how it close when it lose position, but i will ask juannie to translate....
Because the orders below are closing (at TP value) and gradually increasing the equity, that is, until it reaches a certain point, above the break even point of the first trade (which can be adjustable), so it will close out all open orders at that point, and you still make a profit. In fact, at one point I had five or six orders open, all the while the price was going up and down and opening and closing orders so, by the time the price came back up to the fourth order, so much equity had already accrued, that it closed out all remaining orders at that point. Not mention the price dropped about three hundred points below the original order and, I was still in profit! Of course if I had followed the trend I would have made a lot more money, instead of more or less break even.

But, I broke even two or three hundred points below the previous high and, am now in a much better position to catch the trend back up.
  • #96
  • Mar 11, 2010 12:42am Mar 11, 2010 12:42am
hi ec,

about the test, sometimes i wonder how come there is crash when the pending order always above the price action? because it is only do one direction 1 or 2, and no switching direction base indicator...

meaning a lot of false trend on december that is not continue in the a whole months....

it is base purely price action that we can only doing safety things to optimize...

trend/spike/gap protector maybe it will work.
  • #97
  • Mar 11, 2010 12:49am Mar 11, 2010 12:49am
Quoting tulipevierge
hi ec,

about the test, sometimes i wonder how come there is crash when the pending order always above the price action? because it is only do one direction 1 or 2, and no switching direction base indicator...
If there are other orders open, this is what creates the drawdown. So you have to be careful there too. If you have too many orders open or, "accumulated" lot size is too large (that's the real killer), this is what causes it to crash.
  • #98
  • Mar 11, 2010 12:54am Mar 11, 2010 12:54am
Quoting ecTrade
Another time to close (and hibernate) would be during the news. This is what happened the last time when the EUR/USD collapsed. If I had closed everything out beforehand, and waited a day or two to see what happened, I would probably still be trading right now.
hi ectrade,

i am sorry to hear that, well, a lot of people have that difficult time...
i believe you will be ok and will get it back, you're in the right track with the good talent and knowledge

i've got many hard times when it crash in 8 years. the worse things in 2008 crisis... but i believe one day we will get all it back
  • #99
  • Mar 11, 2010 2:11am Mar 11, 2010 2:11am
I didn't lose everything. I lost just enough (about 25% of my account) to realize I better come up with a better strategy. I still have most of the money I started with or, at least close to where I'm breaking even. Of course if this is the best I can do, it's not worth taking the risk. I may as well go to the casino.
  • #100
  • Edited 3:09am Mar 11, 2010 2:55am | Edited 3:09am
Quoting ecTrade
I didn't lose everything. I lost just enough (about 25% of my account) to realize I better come up with a better strategy. I still have most of the money I started with or, at least close to where I'm breaking even. Of course if this is the best I can do, it's not worth taking the risk. I may as well go to the casino.
well, i am glad to hear it, atleast you're safe,
i am still far away to break even, but i believe one day with the hope to find a way.

go to casino, it is have fun but also stressfull.... when you go, you're driving with the hope and when you come back sometimes you feel sorry for your life... especially when you driving 1-15 hours through the desert and rocky mountain for dozen times, it is kind of stupid things i did...

with the EA we have some strategies to do better with uncertain things
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