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  • #5,601
  • Mar 8, 2010 2:18pm Mar 8, 2010 2:18pm
thats all
  • #5,602
  • Mar 8, 2010 2:36pm Mar 8, 2010 2:36pm
are there any in depth examples of pushing through supply/effort to fall charts that anyone can post? I think i've been having problems mixing them up with climatic action. maybe i just need higher timeframes. been trying 5/30m
  • #5,603
  • Mar 8, 2010 2:48pm Mar 8, 2010 2:48pm
Quoting malcolmb14
i am going to try and post more often in here as I am tired of having the shit kickedo ut of me on other threads .... saying volume does not work ... blah blah

lol - agreed, the high traffic threads are very demanding, especially for a frequent poster http://cdn.forexfactory.com/images/icons/icon11.gif - and as most are price based, when one goes "off piste" with volume or timing, it invites a higher level of scepticism and thus negative comments....hence I've long since refrained from posting there and prefer to mine for gems that help my profitability elsewhere....http://cdn.forexfactory.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
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  • #5,604
  • Mar 8, 2010 2:56pm Mar 8, 2010 2:56pm
Quoting malcolmb14
i am going to try and post more often in here as I am tired of having the shit kickedo ut of me on other threads .... saying volume does not work ... blah blah
Great News Malcolm.

I have just gone live after reading 1000's of your posts for the last year.

I am using esignal with better volume, volume profile and TG !
  • #5,605
  • Mar 8, 2010 3:00pm Mar 8, 2010 3:00pm
m1kz is spot on!! VSA sucks.
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  • #5,606
  • Mar 8, 2010 3:07pm Mar 8, 2010 3:07pm
Quoting taomql4
m1kz is spot on!! VSA sucks.
lol......
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  • #5,607
  • Mar 8, 2010 3:13pm Mar 8, 2010 3:13pm
Quoting malcolmb14
i am going to try and post more often in here as I am tired of having the shit kickedo ut of me on other threads .... saying volume does not work ... blah blah
Thier loss our gain.

I for one always welcome your input and am glad when I see you've posted.

I'm new to vsa and forex but I'm not stupid. I will not follow you blindly just cos you say you're a successful trader. I listen to what you say because you appear to make sense when you post.

If I question what you post it's not because you're wrong but because I don't understand........and I want to.

Keep posting here please.
  • #5,608
  • Mar 8, 2010 3:13pm Mar 8, 2010 3:13pm
Quoting HiddenGap
That is why the optimal No Demands will both be less than the previous two bars AND less than average....
Hello HG

Great explanation. Would you be able to verify this table based on your knowledge ?

http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...postcount=1759

An addition to this would be to describe the background in relation to the bar, but maybe thats a bit much to ask for.

Cheers, Dutchy
  • #5,609
  • Mar 8, 2010 3:14pm Mar 8, 2010 3:14pm
pretty interesting chart and i have done this one MT4 .. so when mr I manage a $20 hedge fund with my micro lots , comes around again I can ask him / her wtf are they they talking about !!!

Today almost seems like some kind of test on the 60 min with price moving down on low volume into the 1.3610 area. There was stopping volumeo n the 60 min showing possible buying interest in London / US tomorrow

10 buyers
2) buyers
between 2 and 3 pros let prices drift down , there was no selling climax or ut or anything
3) seems like some more buying interest and for now a higher low

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  • #5,610
  • Mar 8, 2010 3:17pm Mar 8, 2010 3:17pm
Not much need for VSA here, a Lower High - pull a fib if you really need to confirm where it was in relation to the earlier European action...and then when time - at the 14:30 gmt line, price - at Fridays High - and pattern - try a doji and a low volume spinning top = (PA) combine, change frequently results....and it did for ~130 pips down to the red S1 level...

Edit: just another way to skin the FX cat.....back for FO....
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  • #5,611
  • Mar 8, 2010 3:21pm Mar 8, 2010 3:21pm
Quoting Islander
Not much need for VSA here, a Lower High - pull a fib if you really need to confirm where it was in relation to the earlier European action...and then when time - at the 14:30 gmt line, price - at Fridays High - and pattern - try a doji and a low volume spinning top = (PA) combine, change frequently results....and it did for ~130 pips down to the red S1 level...

Edit: just another way to skin the FX cat.....back for FO....
bitch ..lol

I hate when youpost you making way more pips than me ...lol

great work ...
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  • #5,612
  • Edited 4:28pm Mar 8, 2010 3:27pm | Edited 4:28pm
Quoting RaverStyleTim2
are there any in depth examples of pushing through supply/effort to fall charts that anyone can post? I think i've been having problems mixing them up with climatic action. maybe i just need higher timeframes. been trying 5/30m
Be warned :

My mt4 doesn't work ........
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  • #5,613
  • Mar 8, 2010 3:34pm Mar 8, 2010 3:34pm
Quoting Islander
Not much need for VSA here, a Lower High - pull a fib if you really need to confirm where it was in relation to the earlier European action...and then when time - at the 14:30 gmt line, price - at Fridays High - and pattern - try a doji and a low volume spinning top = (PA) combine, change frequently results....and it did for ~130 pips down to the red S1 level...

Edit: just another way to skin the FX cat.....back for FO....
just started with vsa on the weekend
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  • #5,614
  • Mar 8, 2010 4:57pm Mar 8, 2010 4:57pm
I've never liked systems that you have to pay for and allways avoid them by a mile. I almost avoided this VSA system from Tradeguider, but this is the only system out there that I found logic in it. I think I found out how markets work. How couldn't I think of that before, supply and demand...maybe I was sleeping at class of microeconomics.
Let them haters say it's fake, but it works for me.

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"Rich people ain't gonna tell you how to get paid, and broke people act like they're the richest people in the world."


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  • #5,615
  • Mar 8, 2010 8:15pm Mar 8, 2010 8:15pm
HG and other gurus,

Is there any indicator which can help to compare the spreads or ranges of bars? I know, Better Volume use Volume * Range to identify climax action, and Volume / Range to identify churn. But how can I say whether a bar is a wide/ultra wide one at my first sight? use my eyes only?

As HG mentioned how to compare volumes in ealier post, he just compare the volume of the current bar with those of the previous 2 bars. I wonder whether this thumb of rule can apply to Spread or Range.

Thanks!
  • #5,616
  • Mar 8, 2010 8:30pm Mar 8, 2010 8:30pm
Guys,

I have a quick question and I've heard it discussed before but just want to confirm.

I'm still using the better volume indicators for MT4 trying to pick up on VSA as I go demoing and trading...

The default setting for my volume indy is a period of the last 20 bars...

Should I be using a period of less than 20 for say a 15M and 1HR TF? I thought I heard malc say that the TG software only compares volume of the last 3-5 bars??

Should I change that parameter to less than 20 or just leave it?

Thank you for any advice,

Donnie
  • #5,617
  • Mar 8, 2010 8:40pm Mar 8, 2010 8:40pm
leave at 20 .

Tradeguider uses 2 bars for confirmation of patterns

Quoting uraceulose
Guys,

I have a quick question and I've heard it discussed before but just want to confirm.

I'm still using the better volume indicators for MT4 trying to pick up on VSA as I go demoing and trading...

The default setting for my volume indy is a period of the last 20 bars...

Should I be using a period of less than 20 for say a 15M and 1HR TF?...
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  • #5,618
  • Mar 8, 2010 8:44pm Mar 8, 2010 8:44pm
Quoting malcolmb14
leave at 20 .

Tradeguider uses 2 bars for confirmation of patterns
Thank you MalcolmB.

Donnie
  • #5,619
  • Mar 8, 2010 10:21pm Mar 8, 2010 10:21pm
very interesting gu chart here

clearly pros bought at 1.5040 as we had stopping volume .....since then we had a little bounce and pros have not supported price and we have had a low volume drop to the supply zone 1.5000 to 1.5020 , where we have seen stopping volume again

I am not trading london BUT is this is in fact destined to go up look for some form of shake out on high volume or testing of 1.5000 on low volume on a 30 min chart....

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  • #5,620
  • Mar 9, 2010 12:40am Mar 9, 2010 12:40am
Quoting malcolmb14
very interesting gu chart here

clearly pros bought at 1.5040 as we had stopping volume .....since then we had a little bounce and pros have not supported price and we have had a low volume drop to the supply zone 1.5000 to 1.5020 , where we have seen stopping volume again

I am not trading london BUT is this is in fact destined to go up look for some form of shake out on high volume or testing of 1.5000 on low volume on a 30 min chart....

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Thanks for the heads up....looking at my live IBFX volumes I'm pleased to see that they are still in line with your chart http://cdn.forexfactory.com/images/icons/icon12.gif - although I must confess that I've not taken much notice when they are running at about a third of the normal European and US session - this seems the norm for the Asian Session....now to see what happens at FO and LO....

The last little push down to the 5000 level / S1 confluence was on very low volume and made a Higher Low....
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