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  • #1,341
  • Feb 25, 2010 8:57pm Feb 25, 2010 8:57pm
Hi Steve !
well i took a lil break from posting on here had to finish my insurance and mutual funds examinations for work, just kept on reading when i could

Anyway this is what i got to say.
Started a new Demo on FXDD demo server #2
Account # 7502969
Investor PW : fq3zipn

Start date was Monday 22nd of Feb, 2010 @ $10,000
At this very moment balance is = $11,693.27
and i got 2 baskets opened AUD and JPY

Equity analyzer report so far = Max Floating DD - 5.17%

TP multiplier is working a bit strange for me, i tried 100/200/500/1000 all seem to give similar results in porfits so now i just turned it off and use strenghtinprofitclose = $100
and
Globalorderclosureenabled = true
includependingorders=false
dollaraprofit=100.00

I dont ever let robot calculate lot size I use this method :
10,000 Baselot is 0.2 max baskets allowed = 3, 4 seems a bit extreme when all go south.

ran a pair detection script, set all pairs not available to false and disabled NZD all together.
Most of the DD is from JPY i am now turning it off as soon as the current basket closes.

Also running a 2nd demo for 3 weeks now
with Prime4X
account number 7467865
i did not write down the pass :/ and i have no idea how to get it now since i dont know the master and it will not let me set investor ...

anyway started at $30,000 baselot 0.5
TP off and Target profit is $900,
globalorderclosure = $900
4 baskets 30max trades No NZD
current balance $38,811.52 (thats with Megadroid taking 3 huge losses last week using multiple manual gmt offsets as an experiment) taking those aside account would have been at just over $40,000

I have been playing with this robot since september and at first it wiped out my "testing" tiny live account now I'm ready to put it on my real live account and I am going with set up from FXDD demo.

Steve this is the best robot i have ever seen ... period.

One thing thats bugging me is my TP multiplier even when set to 2000 still shows very poor results, baskets close at just above the break even and Weak/Strong TP does not print on screen just says 00.

P.S using mt4 ticker set it to 300 seems to make mt4 calculate things fast enough for robot to close orders when needed.
  • #1,342
  • Feb 26, 2010 5:03am Feb 26, 2010 5:03am
Quoting Ervichov
Hi Steve !
well i took a lil break from posting on here had to finish my insurance and mutual funds examinations for work, just kept on reading when i could

Anyway this is what i got to say.
Started a new Demo on FXDD demo server #2
Account # 7502969
Investor PW : fq3zipn

Start date was Monday 22nd of Feb, 2010 @ $10,000
At this very moment balance is = $11,693.27
and i got 2 baskets opened AUD and JPY

Equity analyzer report so far = Max Floating DD - 5.17%

TP multiplier is working a bit strange for me, i tried 100/200/500/1000 all...
How do you turn off the TP multiplier? Just setting it to 0? You set a value for strengthinprofitclose but not for strengthinlossclose? Can I ask you to post your SET file? I have been demoing for months and whenever the results turned impressively positive, it took only another day or two before they got wiped out again. Am running on FXCM and Alpari and had a 50% gain in the past two days. However, it's now in DD of almost 50%
  • #1,343
  • Feb 26, 2010 5:34am Feb 26, 2010 5:34am
Quoting xicecube
How do you turn off the TP multiplier? Just setting it to 0? You set a value for strengthinprofitclose but not for strengthinlossclose? Can I ask you to post your SET file? I have been demoing for months and whenever the results turned impressively positive, it took only another day or two before they got wiped out again. Am running on FXCM and Alpari and had a 50% gain in the past two days. However, it's now in DD of almost 50%
Set it to 1. If you set it to zero, then your tp will be zero.

My set file is the defaults, apart from turning off those triggers I do not want to trade.

Goodness only knows how you manage huge losers; this is an achievement.

This is not a make-50%-today-then-wipe-you-out-tomorrow robot. At least, it won't be if you get your inputs correctly set. How you do that is up to you to work out. There is a user guide and a ton of stuff here, so I am not going to try to help individuals.

  • #1,344
  • Feb 26, 2010 6:31am Feb 26, 2010 6:31am
I just had a thought, guys. If you are bothered by the automatic lot sizing and tp generation of V3.x, go back to the most recent version of 2.x. It is in the zip and gives you total control of these settings.

I did not add much more to V3.x. There might be some automatic pair detection, but I cannot remember so check for yourselves. If not automated, then make the settings yourself.

  • #1,345
  • Feb 26, 2010 9:05am Feb 26, 2010 9:05am
Quoting xicecube
How do you turn off the TP multiplier? Just setting it to 0? You set a value for strengthinprofitclose but not for strengthinlossclose? Can I ask you to post your SET file? I have been demoing for months and whenever the results turned impressively positive, it took only another day or two before they got wiped out again. Am running on FXCM and Alpari and had a 50% gain in the past two days. However, it's now in DD of almost 50%
I kindly second xicecube's petition asking Ervichov to post his settings...Please Ervichov, it would be very helpful.

Thank you!

d.
  • #1,346
  • Feb 26, 2010 9:07am Feb 26, 2010 9:07am
Quoting dazar1972
I kindly second xicecube's petition asking Ervichov to post his settings...Please Ervichov, it would be very helpful.

Thank you!

d.
Lil correction, the settings are there, what we're asking for is the set file, please Ervichov

d.
  • #1,347
  • Feb 26, 2010 9:41am Feb 26, 2010 9:41am
Quoting SteveHopwood
Set it to 1. If you set it to zero, then your tp will be zero.

My set file is the defaults, apart from turning off those triggers I do not want to trade.

Goodness only knows how you manage huge losers; this is an achievement.

This is not a make-50%-today-then-wipe-you-out-tomorrow robot. At least, it won't be if you get your inputs correctly set. How you do that is up to you to work out. There is a user guide and a ton of stuff here, so I am not going to try to help individuals.

Steve,
my settings are "correct" because I use - aside from the lot size and triggers - the original settings. That is why I was asking Ervichov for his settings, I thought I could learn a thing or two. It might have to do with the broker, too. I have the Original Robot running on both Alpari and FXCM but the one on Alpari is much less profitable than the one on FXCM.

I did neither ask nor expect you to "try to help individuals" like my but certainly very much appreciate your reply.

The EA, by the way, did exactly that: Made 40 or 50% in 2 days but ended up in a huge drawdown a day later. Has recovered beautifully just now. Patience will be rewarded, it seems.
  • #1,348
  • Feb 28, 2010 11:25pm Feb 28, 2010 11:25pm
As requested

This is a set file for FXDD
to be used on $10,000 account +

Same set file as seen here

Account # 7502969
Investor PW : fq3zipn
Attached File(s)
File Type: zip 4b-nostops.100.zip   2 KB | 439 downloads
  • #1,349
  • Feb 28, 2010 11:40pm Feb 28, 2010 11:40pm
Note the *.set file JPY trigger is set to False...
JPY pairs are really great for racking in pips; however they WILL GET STUCK FOR MONTHS at a time and will cause insane draw down like no other, which I decided I don't want. Use them at your own risk
  • #1,350
  • Feb 28, 2010 11:46pm Feb 28, 2010 11:46pm
Quoting xicecube
How do you turn off the TP multiplier? Just setting it to 0? You set a value for strengthinprofitclose but not for strengthinlossclose? Can I ask you to post your SET file? I have been demoing for months and whenever the results turned impressively positive, it took only another day or two before they got wiped out again. Am running on FXCM and Alpari and had a 50% gain in the past two days. However, it's now in DD of almost 50%
Umm under "Management Inputs"
"BasketClosureTP=False" as far as i can see it takes multiplier out of the equation.

All my test lead me to believe this robot MUST be ran with assistance of mt4ticker set to 300-500ms
other wise some of those "quick" baskets have a chance of getting stuck for X amounts of time.
  • #1,351
  • Edited 11:57pm Mar 1, 2010 11:47pm | Edited 11:57pm
setup an additional new DEMo with FXDD, demo server 2

login:7518099
investor pw: xth2bzm

$10,000 start 100:1
idea here is no srengthtinprofitclose , no TP level
just a globalorderclose @ 1,000
closependingorders=true
robot calculates lots= true (0.5 is printed on chart now)
usebalance=false
calculate using equity =true
1hr chart
jpy triger =true (want to give it a stress test )
5 baskets, 30 max trades

account equity analyzer is on

lets rock and roll
  • #1,352
  • Mar 2, 2010 10:55am Mar 2, 2010 10:55am
what is "mt4ticker"?
  • #1,353
  • Mar 2, 2010 11:04am Mar 2, 2010 11:04am
This.

Attached File(s)
File Type: zip mt4_ticker.zip   16 KB | 549 downloads
  • #1,354
  • Edited 1:28pm Mar 2, 2010 1:04pm | Edited 1:28pm
Quoting Ervichov
setup an additional new DEMo with FXDD, demo server 2

login:7518099
investor pw: xth2bzm

$10,000 start 100:1
idea here is no srengthtinprofitclose , no TP level
just a globalorderclose @ 1,000
closependingorders=true
robot calculates lots= true (0.5 is printed on chart now)
usebalance=false
calculate using equity =true
1hr chart
jpy triger =true (want to give it a stress test )
5 baskets, 30 max trades

account equity analyzer is on

lets rock and roll
crashed and burned :/

3 baskets (usd, eur and gbp) were closed by the platform to a total loss of:
-1,579.16 so: [99.8% /8420.8 / 8441.8 stopout]
new balance = 8420.86

my Prime4X (starte at $30,000 with base lot of 0.5) is at $44,000 now using similar idea but with strenghtinprofitclose = enabled and at $1500
glovalorderclose @ $1500 as well
current dd $10,000 5 baskets going
seems like having strengthinprofit close is a must to keep those baskets moving rather then waiting for the whole batch to close at a profit.

Demo started for basket 524 EA reset to $10,000
  • #1,355
  • Mar 2, 2010 4:27pm Mar 2, 2010 4:27pm
Listen you lot.

I am not sure how so many people here are managing so many losing baskets. Set the robot up properly and stop mucking around, and it is impossible to lose money with this robot.

All you have to do is read this blasted thread properly. And I mean read it. The reasons for all the coding decisions are to be found within this thread.

From post 1. AGAIN.

THESE ROBOTS WILL KILL YOUR ACCOUNT QUICKER THAN YOU CAN BLINK IF YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING. GO AWAY NOW, AND DO NOT RETURN IF YOU ARE NOT PREPARED FOR A LOT OF PATIENT HARD WORK.

Okay, so there are a few two syllable words in there, but I am quite surprised the warning is not stark enough.

Just read the damn thread, OK? Only an idiot loses money trading this robot. Anybody who finds a way of doing so should take up something really difficult rather than trading it. Grass watching, for example. Burning toast, possibly. Standing in the fast lane of a motorway (or whatever the equivalent road is in your part of the world), and getting killed. All of these things are harder than losing money trading this robot.

Guess how I know? Yep, 'cos I haven't done it.

For crying out loud, any pillock barely alive could load the robot onto a demo with just the default settings and avoid losing money. Even the most lethally stupid could manage this.

Any more lunacy here and I will limit this thread to contributors with >1 vouch. And remove dipstick posters from my buddy list so they cannot post in my threads. And remove the over-generous vouches I have granted to make sure that people not totally moronic can still post in my threads.

Get the message, guys?
  • #1,356
  • Mar 2, 2010 4:43pm Mar 2, 2010 4:43pm
Thats actually the first time i seen this robot loose and it took some real creativity on my end to make it happen...

However the point is made, I'm not sure why I am still tweaking this EA as it works great, guess i am still after the perfect solution for "stuck" baskets other then time and felt like sharing the results. That ends now.
  • #1,357
  • Mar 3, 2010 4:56am Mar 3, 2010 4:56am
The defoult settings are for a micro account (like ibfx micro)
If you load it to a 10 cent per pip account it opens positions 10 times to big and you can lose money.
The only way to get the latest version to work right is to change lot calculation in the code. Or use an older version (like 3.0) where lot calculation from the menu still work.

I am using this robot live for 4 months and i have been demo testing for 5 months before. My accout is 80% up with 3 stuck baskets

I am still using version 3.0 with defoult settings and baselot calculation 0.1 per 1300 on eglobal cent account

Bostjan
  • #1,358
  • Mar 3, 2010 5:39am Mar 3, 2010 5:39am
Hi Just wanting to know what everyone is using, Original or Range?
I have demo setup with Range trading and all settings at default.

Working well so far

Just trying to get a general idea as to what you are all using and what is working the best at the moment.

Thanks
Agroade the NOOB
  • #1,359
  • Mar 4, 2010 8:17am Mar 4, 2010 8:17am
Quoting Ervichov
As requested

This is a set file for FXDD
to be used on $10,000 account +

Same set file as seen here

Account # 7502969
Investor PW : fq3zipn
Thank you
  • #1,360
  • Mar 9, 2010 3:52am Mar 9, 2010 3:52am
anyone has get the best setting for this ea ???
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