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  • #41
  • Edited 10:36am Mar 1, 2010 9:17am | Edited 10:36am
[quote=ecTrade;3508191]Yeah, but by itself (I'm thinking) it won't help establish the trend ... or, at least this is what I noticed when watching it. I think it might require something else, together with this, to make it work.


hi ec,

it is hard to establish the trend because indicator base on price action, maybe it work if dingdong screening the opening again....

only opening with higher percentage to win will open.... it is still a lot of opening.

screening can be base on :
- indicator that base on tick that can see direction to filter both medium trend...
- support and resisten.
- fibo
- or candle stick... doji, pinbar, morubushu etc...

some indicator give physology thing to people when to see it visually to do trading.

ec, why when i am trying nn predictor always said calculating? is it working for you?
  • #42
  • Mar 1, 2010 9:25am Mar 1, 2010 9:25am
For every tick, I believe it's supposed to examine the status of the indicator. This may in fact be what you are looking at.[/quote]

it worked for 3 digit now.
wow it is cool when both order hedging TP will change from 7 to 12 pips.. that is good i think to give more room to trade.

yes, that the one i see, but i think before it worked fine, the indicator is not base on tick.... only one time when it is loaded succesfully.
  • #43
  • Mar 1, 2010 10:24am Mar 1, 2010 10:24am
Quoting ecTrade

I also developed an EA yesterday (Sunday), which is similar in some ways (to Dazz), but not really the same. But man it's really kicking ass! Am considering whether I will share it with you folks or not.
Dear ecTrade, please share your kick-ass EA with me and Tulipevierge...
I think both of us really need it...

Maybe you could share via our email or Private Message?
[email protected]

I think it should develop us much more...
  • #44
  • Edited 10:56am Mar 1, 2010 10:43am | Edited 10:56am
Quoting juannie
Dear ecTrade, please share your kick-ass EA with me and Tulipevierge...
I think both of us really need it...

Maybe you could share via our email or Private Message?
[email protected]

I think it should develop us much more...
hi ectrade, juanie

wow, after i read juannie post, i just realized you made breakthrough already...
well, i am gladly if you share it with me and juannie, if you don't mind... i apreciated if you do it

ok...it is my email.... [email protected]

thank you
  • #45
  • Mar 1, 2010 12:32pm Mar 1, 2010 12:32pm
Quoting tulipevierge
yes, that the one i see, but i think before it worked fine, the indicator is not base on tick.... only one time when it is loaded succesfully.
Is it just the Stochastic that is doing this? Because basically it's loading the Stochastic at the same time it does Heiken Ashi. Does the Stochastic still work anyway? I don't know, because I've only been using the Heiken Ashi ...
  • #46
  • Edited 3:13pm Mar 1, 2010 1:17pm | Edited 3:13pm
Quoting ecTrade
Is it just the Stochastic that is doing this? Because basically it's loading the Stochastic at the same time it does Heiken Ashi. Does the Stochastic still work anyway? I don't know, because I've only been using the Heiken Ashi ...

hi ec,

when i use both indicator=3, heiken aishi is fine only with stochastic.
and there is open order using that option 3...

before has no problem about loading, with that looping i can't check every opening and modification in expert and journal... even it worked open order.

it work too when use option 2=only stochastic...
option 1= ok.

and about time out/separator 8, it work perfect it move correctly when i change the variable times and TP.

actually what is this use for:
- fix gap
-variable gap
and p loss 1, 2, 3,4 ?

and do you think it will make a different when we attach the ea at 1H time frame will give different with 1minute time frame ec? sometimes i tried it to attach at different time frame to see maybe give different result, but no clue yet about this...
  • #47
  • Mar 1, 2010 6:23pm Mar 1, 2010 6:23pm
Quoting tulipevierge
hi ec,

when i use both indicator=3, heiken aishi is fine only with stochastic.
and there is open order using that option 3...

before has no problem about loading, with that looping i can't check every opening and modification in expert and journal... even it worked open order.

it work too when use option 2=only stochastic...
option 1= ok.
Sounds like some sort of conflict when both indicators are "loaded" at the same time. And, since Heiken Ashi is loaded first, it doesn't experience this problem. Maybe there is some other code you have to add in order to do this, I don't know?

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and about time out/separator 8, it work perfect it move correctly when i change the variable times and TP.
Good!

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actually what is this use for:
- fix gap
-variable gap
and p loss 1, 2, 3,4 ?
The Fixed Gap is the distance maintained between the current price and the order open price. I think it's the initial gap too (or preset). It will remain fixed so long as you set the Variable Gap to "0." If you set the Variable Gap to a value greater than "0" (no need to set it higher than "3," I think), then the gap gets wider and wider the further away the price gets from the order open price.

P_losses 1-4 is the padding (in points) which is added to the initial or "fixed" gap with each successive loss (up to four times). The idea behind that is to keep the order from opening if, it actually starts trending in the other direction. We had talked about this once before already.

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and do you think it will make a different when we attach the ea at 1H time frame will give different with 1minute time frame ec? sometimes i tried it to attach at different time frame to see maybe give different result, but no clue yet about this...
I don't know either? ...
  • #48
  • Edited 4:51am Mar 2, 2010 4:30am | Edited 4:51am
hi ec,

thank you for explanation...

it is hard to understand when there is stochastic loading problem still have opening....

when i try use Target profit bigger than SL. i can playing TP with time out... so one winning can cover 2 losses or one winning can cover one losses... it give more ratio than default...

could you make moving SL, not with the time out, but moving the SL after have profit how many pips.

example setup like this :
SL=12 TP=30. i can drop the TP with the time out... but sometimes when we have profit already before time out gradually reduce TP. it can hit SL....

if there is any option that make moving SL to break even after how many pips winning, it will minimize the risk too and that would be helpfull....

right now i am trying to reduce the opening with higher value like 10... with combo SL and TP, maybe it work to give ratio to win expecially when TP more bigger than SL.

with the dazz II.v1.1( plead,fix gap) and with dazz P2V1OT( value at separator 5).

i am trying different default setup maybe there some other setup with that built in feature that make a more winning percentage... i hope there is any..... the price action is unpredictable look like still base on lucky times when it is running depends how the market move in our favor or not...( with the good feature can give more winning percentage....

time out is really helpfull to manage TP...
  • #49
  • Edited 6:52am Mar 2, 2010 6:20am | Edited 6:52am
hi ec,

about time out/take profit...

is it only working when it open order ? or is it working with pending order too?
i just want to make sure how is time out working... with only open or with pending order too...

the pending order, sometimes TP is work fine, some times give different TP.
example i put TP=30, it shows up 30, after it close, it open other pending order it shows up TP=5...

5 is the same value i put in at TP7(separator 8)
  • #50
  • Edited 7:51am Mar 2, 2010 7:09am | Edited 7:51am
Currently the time out works only on the open orders. But, on this other project I'm working on, I have it set so the pending orders will reset after so many minutes.

Oh, speaking of which, here is a snapshot of the test I ran yesterday, over a three month period with starting balance of $3000 (U.S.) and lot size of 2.5 on a mini account (.25 on standard account). Needless to say I was pretty amazed ...

Of course this was before I got it fixed and running properly. But, now that I have (I'm getting close), I'm having my problems. It has peaks and valleys where it didn't have them before and cancels out most of the profit.

Or, it might just be the new feature I'm trying to add, where the lot size increases as the account equity increases. For example, if I start out with a $3,000 balance and lot size of 2.5, by the time it increased to $6,000, I would be trading 5.0 lots (automatically). If I got that set up and working properly, instead of a $3,500 profit, which is nothing to scoff about, it would have been closer to $5,500, I think? I was trying to determine this by testing it but, now it keeps crapping out.

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  • #51
  • Mar 2, 2010 8:21am Mar 2, 2010 8:21am
hi ectrade,

wow that is awesome test... did you do 90% modelling? it is good sign....

it means it can do a higher profit factor with minimize risk base on price action for every opening....

and how much is DD and profit factor?

about money management that manage open order to increase lot following the account value...

it is a good feature can do automaticly... but dingdong is scalping price action.....

for safety better to keep it with fixed lot manual and later when the account is up, and have enough margin, we can keep the account steady compounding with more little risk when open same lot... and it is easy to monitore it...

and we can do manually increase the lot after the account is double by manual that will be more safety depends how aggresive we are...

but maybe that money management will work after account is double but it takes a lof of times to do testing before it running live...

if the ea compounding pips gradually with the total money, like winning over un reasonable percent/day.... it is definitely will get banned within a week running live....

well, that result test give a hope dingdong will work and finish it is awesome, i know you can do it ecrade
  • #52
  • Mar 2, 2010 8:31am Mar 2, 2010 8:31am
[quote=ecTrade;3512352]Currently the time out works only on the open orders. But, on this other project I'm working on, I have it set so the pending orders will reset after so many minutes.

hi ec,

ok...i am just waiting the new release then,
it look likes, right now the pending order will follow time out>> it set to the last time out 840 seconds when we change TP from default...
  • #53
  • Mar 2, 2010 8:45am Mar 2, 2010 8:45am
hi ec,

i just realized may be you said about the other ea, you're working it not dingdong... hehe sometimes it is hard to understand english...

but it is awesome result i am happy for you, at least that is something worth to this project.. cool.

by the way, when i try P2 setup not default, it can do like a trapping price action too with playing with separator 4, instead of hedging....
  • #54
  • Mar 2, 2010 8:57am Mar 2, 2010 8:57am
Of course this was before I got it fixed and running properly. But, now that I have (I'm getting close), I'm having my problems. It has peaks and valleys where it didn't have them before and cancels out most of the profit.

hi ec,

about that do you mean when the lossing wiped it out the profit that already made?

did you notice that after there is time out to take care take profit management... we can set take profit more higher over than 20... because sometimes there is spike that will go more higher because it set always open at higher value than price action... or less when it sell...
if it can hit open position we assume there is trend at that time....

maybe it is now to combine with SL management, to move SL to break even after howmany pips? it will reduce risky too... but i believe it works with time out feature....it really perfect combination

what do you think?
  • #55
  • Mar 2, 2010 9:12am Mar 2, 2010 9:12am
Quoting tulipevierge
hi ectrade,

wow that is awesome test... did you do 90% modelling? it is good sign....

it means it can do a higher profit factor with minimize risk base on price action for every opening....

and how much is DD and profit factor?
Absolute Drawdown of 19.75 and Profit Factor of 3.99.

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about money management that manage open order to increase lot following the account value...

it is a good feature can do automaticly... but dingdong is scalping price action.....
This is not really Ding Dong anymore though. The Take Profit is set at 15 pips.

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for safety better to keep it with fixed lot manual and later when the account is up, and have enough margin, we can keep the account steady compounding with more little risk when open same lot... and it is easy to monitore it...
If you keep the drawdown low and lot size at the same percentage (see below) I don't see why not?

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and we can do manually increase the lot after the account is double by manual that will be more safety depends how aggresive we are...
The way it's setup though, it's very gradual. It's based on the same percentage of lot size divided by the equity (2.5/3000 = .0008333) and multiplied by the new equity amount as it increases.

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but maybe that money management will work after account is double but it takes a lof of times to do testing before it running live...
Yeah, I want to do a lot of testing before I start trading, at least with such a high lot size anyway.

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if the ea compounding pips gradually with the total money, like winning over un reasonable percent/day.... it is definitely will get banned within a week running live....
What, for scalping? Can always set a daily limit on it I suppose.

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well, that result test give a hope dingdong will work and finish it is awesome, i know you can do it ecrade
Again, like I said, it's not really Ding Dong anymore. I'm calling it the H_A_Switcher ... where "H_A" stands for Heiken Ashi. I'm just using the Heiken Ashi to determine the trends and setting the orders (Buy Stop and Sell Stop) using presets and timeouts.
  • #56
  • Mar 2, 2010 9:28am Mar 2, 2010 9:28am
Quoting tulipevierge
hi ec,

about that do you mean when the lossing wiped it out the profit that already made?
Yeah, I made about $300 on the first day, only to lose it all the next day.

But, I'm not sure it was this new feature I'm adding that was causing it, because I was having problems getting it to to set the presets and timeouts. Oh, the test that I ran, was the very first test by the way. I wonder if I'll ever be able to duplicate the results?

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did you notice that after there is time out to take care take profit management... we can set take profit more higher over than 20... because sometimes there is spike that will go more higher because it set always open at higher value than price action... or less when it sell...
if it can hit open position we assume there is trend at that time....
No, I don't understand what you're saying here?

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maybe it is now to combine with SL management, to move SL to break even after howmany pips? it will reduce risky too... but i believe it works with time out feature....it really perfect combination

what do you think?
Yeah, but you can do the same thing just by setting a minus (-) take profit value.
  • #57
  • Mar 2, 2010 9:53am Mar 2, 2010 9:53am
Quoting ecTrade
Yeah, but you can do the same thing just by setting a minus (-) take profit value.
Well, maybe not. You have to go at least 3 pips below (with my broker) in order to set or modify a Take Profit value. This is why I also have the feature (although I haven't mentioned it) with Ding Dong Dazz, where if the timeout has already occurred, but the price hasn't dropped low enough to set the new Take Profit value, it closes the order (automatically) the next point afterwards.
  • #58
  • Edited 10:18am Mar 2, 2010 10:03am | Edited 10:18am
Quoting ecTrade
Yeah, I made about $300 on the first day, only to lose it all the next day.

But, I'm not sure it was this new feature I'm adding that was causing it, because I was having problems getting it to to set the presets and timeouts. Oh, the test that I ran, was the very first test by the way. I wonder if I'll ever be able to duplicate the results?

No, I don't understand what you're saying here?

Yeah, but you can do the same thing just by setting a minus (-) take profit value.
i ec,

at least there is good result ec and you know it will become good ea

i use time out like this to manage take profit management.....

instead TP=7, try use TP=30 and time out.... will decreasing from 30, 25, 20, 15, 10 and 10, and 10....

if you see the default opening, it is setPlead= 3 or it can fill other value like 5 or 10... with that higher value if that hit make opening will give probabilty that trend will go higher...

sometimes the price already up +10 or 15 but SL it does not moving yet to break even when we already win how many pips...

with more higher target profit, we got more profit with less opening... and one position that is profit can cover one SL or 2 SL.

what do you think? i am just trying the different setup other than default... with SL moving to break even after how many pips profit to prevent less risky....

because dingdong default SL is bigger than TP, i prefer TP is bigger than SL...
  • #59
  • Mar 2, 2010 10:14am Mar 2, 2010 10:14am
Quoting tulipevierge
if you see the opening it is setPlead= 3 or can fill other value like 5 or 10... with that higher value if that hit make opening will give probabilty that trend will go higher... that why we can use higher TP more than 7...
You mean set it with a higher TP and manage it with the timeouts, right? Yeah, that's basically what I'm doing with the H_A_Switcher.
  • #60
  • Mar 2, 2010 10:28am Mar 2, 2010 10:28am
Quoting ecTrade
You mean set it with a higher TP and manage it with the timeouts, right? Yeah, that's basically what I'm doing with the H_A_Switcher.
hi ec,

yes... set it with higher TP and manage with time out i want to explain this, but it really hard to write in english....

that is correct the whole day i try many combo and see how it is work... and it work pretty good than use little TP... with assuming that trend will go with it.

that is a good name H_A_switcher

it can be minimize risk risky after profit, with the feature that can moving SL to break even after how many pips we win...

what do you think? about this moving SL... i believe it will work...
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