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  • #1
  • First Post: Feb 24, 2010 5:04pm Feb 24, 2010 5:04pm
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Quoting tulipevierge
hi ectrade,

thank's you're still have a lot of idea for dingdong,

i believe it will work but how to make it....
sometimes, i think i miss the good setup because most of the time i check if there is bug or not in the opening...

yup, after all, we have finish all the feature and we know is the best indicator work together, can make it simple.....
because right now it mix everything with classic and duo and each individual indicator...
Quoting ecTrade
Or, maybe I can try working on a simpler version and work on "Dazz" at the same time?

Which features do you think we should start with?

One thing I might say, is it's too bad I can't get this Dazz "Plus" working (what I'm working on right now), because I know it would be a nice feature to have.
Quoting ecTrade
I'm going to see if I can get something together here real quick, based more upon my idea (Dazz1 + Classic Option) and post it in a new thread. From there I think we can decide what we want to do about it.

I think I'm going to call it Ding_Dong_Dazz_II or something like that.
Okay, I've created a "simpler" version of Dazz, based more upon the ideas of Dazz Plus (which I just got working) including a workable version of Dazz Classic. If anyone would like to know more, they can start at the beginning of the last thread.

Currently the Time Out and early Close Features are disabled. These can be enabled by entering "1" inside the properties menu. I am providing this so we can examine it and come up with some other possible ideas. Have also a attached copy of the two indicators we are currently using.

I also expect to continue providing updates to the previous thread but, will more than likely focus on this thread here.

Thanks.
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File Type: mq4 Ding_Dong_Dazz_II_V1.0.mq4   16 KB | 342 downloads
File Type: mq4 Heiken_Ashi_Ma_T3_T4.mq4   7 KB | 331 downloads
File Type: mq4 Stochastic_Cross_T4.mq4   6 KB | 345 downloads
  • #2
  • Feb 24, 2010 5:44pm Feb 24, 2010 5:44pm
Oh, it is set to Dazz Plus and Heiken Ashi indicator by default. If you wish to use Dazz Classic, select "1" from Classic_0_1. If you wish to change indicators, select 1-3 from Indicator_1_3. Also, if you wish to use Buy or Sell mode without indicator, select "1" or "2" from Option_0_1. If you leave it set to "0," it sets Heiken Ashi indicator as default. If you wish to set another indicator as a default, select which one you want from Indicator_1_3 and select "1" from Set_as_Default_0_1.

If you just wish to see how it operates, all you have to do is click "OK." Although you'll have to attach the indicators to the chart if you intend to use therm.
  • #3
  • Feb 24, 2010 6:58pm Feb 24, 2010 6:58pm
Hi Ectrader, can you please help me with creating my EA. I wanted to ping you but ur pm's and email are turned off

Please pm me here or at [email protected]

thanks a lot
  • #4
  • Feb 24, 2010 9:31pm Feb 24, 2010 9:31pm
Please check your pm. Thanks.
  • #5
  • Edited 11:20pm Feb 24, 2010 10:49pm | Edited 11:20pm
Quoting ecTrade
Please check your pm. Thanks.
well, you're really nice and hard work ectrade... i can help do a testing for you guys.

ok ec, dingdong II work perfect, i did not see any error yet...

except the math for us/jpy, euro/jpy or may be other currency that is not 5 digit. us/jpy and euro/jpy is 3 digit after dot=1,000 at 5 digit broker

when separator 2=0,0 it means working with pluss with indicator right?

it is awesome, i just realized....
with only one pending order that follow both indicator sign give more chance to winning... it is awesome feature you made it ec...
  • #6
  • Feb 24, 2010 10:58pm Feb 24, 2010 10:58pm
Quoting tulipevierge
well, you're really nice and hard work ectrade... i can help do a testing for you guys.

ok ec, dingdong II work perfect, i did not see any error yet...
Thanks!

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when separator 2=0,0 it means working with pluss with indicator right?
Yes, except it's set to Heiken Ashi indicator by default. If you wish to set another indicator option to default, select that option and set Set_as_Default_1_3 to "1." So the next time you open the program, it will be set that way automatically.

Oh, did you notice the Time Out settings? Those are the current settings displayed, except you can't modify them just yet. That's one of the next things on the list I guess. I'm just not sure how to go about doing it.
  • #7
  • Feb 24, 2010 11:09pm Feb 24, 2010 11:09pm
Hey, did you that if a pending order hasn't opened and the indicator signals a reverse, it gets deleted automatically and it immediately opens a pending in the opposite direction? Pretty cool huh?

Also, if you switch over to Dazz Classic from Dazz Plus, and there's a pending order, it deletes that automatically as well.
  • #8
  • Edited Feb 25, 2010 12:05am Feb 24, 2010 11:46pm | Edited Feb 25, 2010 12:05am
Quoting ecTrade
Hey, did you that if a pending order hasn't opened and the indicator signals a reverse, it gets deleted automatically and it immediately opens a pending in the opposite direction? Pretty cool huh?

Also, if you switch over to Dazz Classic from Dazz Plus, and there's a pending order, it deletes that automatically as well.
yes, it is pretty cool... i think you reduce big loss ratio now... with only have one pending opening that is follow both agree indicator...

before it is kind of hard thing to notice which opening that is loss....

a lot of good feature will give chances winning when both indicator give a late signal....

ok, take your time doing time out that can be adjustable...
  • #9
  • Edited 3:37pm Feb 25, 2010 12:04am | Edited 3:37pm
Quoting tulipevierge
yes, it is pretty cool... i think you reduce big loss ratio now...

before it is kind of hard thing to notice which opening that is loss....
One thing at a time.

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a lot of good feature will give chances winning when both indicator give a late signal....
I'm still not sure how that's supposed to work (with both indicators) but I'm sure I'll figure it out.

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ok, take your time doing time out that can be adjustable...
Oh Really?

Well, it's not quite exactly what I wanted, but I think it will do for now. The only things I don't like are if you don't want to use all the time outs you will have to delete the extras, plus they (the configuration) can't be saved as defaults. I can program it to do this, but the way I'm doing it now it takes too much code and I'm trying to find an easier way to do it.

Oh, if you finally get it set up the way you like (including the whole chart), did you know that you can save it as a template? That way it really wouldn't matter, and you just open up the template whenever you want to refer to those specific settings. That also includes attaching the indicators to the chart, so that's kind of cool.

ETA: Modified EA to delete pending orders when in NULL mode and not open any new ones ... also modified parameters for Dazz Plus.
Attached File(s)
File Type: mq4 Ding_Dong_Dazz_II_V1.1T.mq4   16 KB | 311 downloads
  • #10
  • Feb 25, 2010 12:13am Feb 25, 2010 12:13am
Quoting ecTrade
One thing at a time.

I'm still not sure how that's supposed to work (with both indicators) but I'm sure I'll figure it out.

Oh Really?

Well, it's not quite exactly what I wanted, but I think it will do for now. The only things I don't like is if you don't want to use all the variables you will have to delete them, plus they can't be saved as defaults
do you mean this time out variable right?
actually all of those feature, it give more ratio to win... those feature it can said like this, when there is no trend just close it... that 2 minute give enough time to determine the trend already...

i am just thinking how this can survive when there is sudden spike... or like i said withing 10 seconds move 20 pips... if no small false reversal it is ok because there will be no opening but when it reverse 3 pips up and later continue that spike.... it will get to many hit SL.

wow, you have new version already... great... it is excited..
  • #11
  • Feb 25, 2010 12:33am Feb 25, 2010 12:33am
Quoting tulipevierge
do you mean this time out variable right?
Yes.

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actually all of those feature, it give more ratio to win... those feature it can said like this, when there is no trend just close it... that 2 minute give enough time to determine the trend already...
Two minutes? Perhaps. I don't know for sure. Of course if it's not trending or doing anything, I don't know if it will matter that much.

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i am just thinking how this can survive when there is sudden spike...
If the order is still pending it shouldn't matter or, if it spikes in the other direction then take your profit. I guess the key is to try not to get it to open too early.

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or like i said withing 10 seconds move 20 pips... if no small false reversal it is ok because there will be no opening but when it reverse 3 pips up and later continue that spike.... it will get to many hit SL.
No more than one SL hit with Dazz Plus, so long as it's a ""major" spike. But, then again, sometimes the spikes up and down (like on the news) and maybe it would good to shut it off at that point.

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wow, you have new version already... great... it is excited..
Well I've been thinking about it quite a bit, I just wasn't sure how to implement it. But, like I said, this should do for now.
  • #12
  • Feb 25, 2010 12:46am Feb 25, 2010 12:46am
Quoting ecTrade
Yes.

If the order is still pending it shouldn't matter or, if it spikes in the other direction then take your profit. I guess the key is to try not to get it to open too early.

No more than one SL hit with Dazz Plus, so long as it's a ""major" spike. But, then again, sometimes the spikes up and down (like on the news) and maybe it would good to shut it off at that point.

Well I've been thinking about it quite a bit, I just wasn't sure how to implement it.
ec,

i know when the order is still pending it shouldn't matter but when order is opening and later there is sudden move.... it hit SL, and that time the ea will trying to do pending order again...

how do we know the spikes up and down? if implement ffcal indicator will make it slower to check when there is news coming....

or the code that can measure how many pips moving in seconds to know it is normal or not... then shut if off for a while...
  • #13
  • Feb 25, 2010 12:47am Feb 25, 2010 12:47am
Quoting tulipevierge
wow, you have new version already... great... it is excited..
Quoting ecTrade
Well I've been thinking about it quite a bit, I just wasn't sure how to implement it. But, like I said, this should do for now.
Oh, there's also the letter "D" or the letter "E" next to the Time Out display, that tells you whether the Time Outs have been enabled or not.
  • #14
  • Feb 25, 2010 12:50am Feb 25, 2010 12:50am
Quoting tulipevierge
ec,

i know when the order is still pending it shouldn't matter but when order is opening and later there is sudden move.... it hit SL, and that time the ea will trying to do pending order again...
Yeah, but if it keeps going in the same direction, the new pending order won't open (hopefully).

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how do we know the spikes up and down? if implement ffcal indicator will make it slower to check when there is news coming....
I don't know. You can only anticipate so many things, and try to optimize the things you do have.

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or the code that can measure how many pips moving in seconds to know it is normal or not... then shut if off for a while...
Yes, possibly.
  • #15
  • Feb 25, 2010 5:57am Feb 25, 2010 5:57am
hi ec,

when both indicator say 1, 1=buy and 2, 2 =sell....

when they changed from 1, 1 to 2,2, there is periode....it shows null...

null=no opening correct?

when it says null, usuall there is still one left behind pending order... before it changed from 1,1 to null, or from 2,2 to null....

most of the time this pending last order between this periode are loss when it hit and make opening....
it usually ranging market that happened at this periode and we don't know where to go the trend yet.....

what do you think to drop the last pending order that left behind?

i hope maybe it will give more winning ratio...

i know i think you did it to drop the order when it reverse, is it include when it say null?
  • #16
  • Feb 25, 2010 9:41am Feb 25, 2010 9:41am
Quoting tulipevierge
hi ec,

when both indicator say 1, 1=buy and 2, 2 =sell....

when they changed from 1, 1 to 2,2, there is periode....it shows null......
You're right, it should be modified to delete pendings when in NULL mode. In fact, I just did.
  • #17
  • Edited 12:04pm Feb 25, 2010 10:56am | Edited 12:04pm
Quoting ecTrade
You're right, it should be modified to delete pendings when in NULL mode. In fact, I just did.

thx ec,

first one hour +30 pips,
the last 3 hour minus over 100 pips...

it look like dingdong can work pretty well at certain time...

and thank you for new update...

i just try it.....

it is delete the order, but it repeating like circle... >> put pending order, delete, put pending, delete, put,delete, put, delete

it is like a filter order... i hope give ratio to win.

null=no order and can check when is null there is still left one pending order=delete. it will be delete one times.

let me try again and close everything...
  • #18
  • Feb 25, 2010 11:50am Feb 25, 2010 11:50am
Quoting tulipevierge
thx ec 4 new update...

it is delete the order, but it repeating like circle... >> put pending order, delete, put pending, delete, put,delete, put, delete
Actually it will just keep opening and deleting, but that isn't necessary. I just changed it so it won't open any orders at all when it says NULL.

I also modified it so that "the gap" between the current price and pending opening price gets larger and larger. So basically, if it really starts to trend in the opposite direction, it will never open. And by that time (hopefully) the indicator will signal a reversal and delete it. Actually I haven't tested it yet, but it's there if you want to take a look.

Here is the link again.
  • #19
  • Edited 12:25pm Feb 25, 2010 12:01pm | Edited 12:25pm
Quoting ecTrade
I also modified it so that "the gap" between the current price and pending opening price gets larger and larger. So basically, if it really starts to trend in the opposite direction, it will never open. And by that time (hopefully) the indicator will signal a reversal and delete it. Actually I haven't tested it yet, but it's there if you want to take a look.

Here is the link again.
Yeah, it appears to be working. And when the indicator signaled a reversal it deleted the first pending and opened a second one in the opposite direction. Cool!

Oh, I'm also thinking this may work well on its own without an indicator ... and, once it's gone so many points in the opposite direction (not yet specified), it deletes the current pending and opens a new one going the other way.
  • #20
  • Edited 12:49pm Feb 25, 2010 12:37pm | Edited 12:49pm
ec, yes... hehe every feaature you made, it is very cool

i have an idea about other EA that will suitable for every feature in dingdong... well it will work, i iam sure about that....

you did it... it less opening and only give higher ratio to win each opening...

what next do you think... feature that can measure how pips moving in seconds for safety?
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