MT4 brokers spread

hi
i'm looking to work on mt4 to set auto trading account
i open a demo account with alpari (default of mt4) and fxcm mt4 demo
but both of them have wide spread.
is this normal?
i look at the forum of fxcm for mt4 they said that the spread on their mt4 demo is the same as their live account.
i'm getting 27p spread on EURUSD, 26p on USDJPY in fxcm mt4 demo.
are the spread on mt4 on any broker this wide?
how do other traders do a automated scalp with these spreads?

because they are 5 digit brokers. 27 =2.7 and 26 = 2.6 pips.

2.7 for eu or uj is still 3 times the spread that could be considered "normal".

sorry it's just me. i got it wrong.
it's just that when i look at the pair specification it says that the spread is 27 on EUR/USD not 2.7
fxcm cleared it out already.
thanks for the reply