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  • #1,321
  • Feb 22, 2010 12:41pm Feb 22, 2010 12:41pm
Live stats for GBP/JPY 1H on an Alpari Demo account starting from 10K.

http://www.mt4i.com/users/wilko-kgrs/stats


Steve - Can you add 9 character symbol support (e.g GBPJPY_fx) for the following indicators:

RS_GROUP_AUD V1.2.ex4
RS_GROUP_CAD V1.2.ex4
RS_GROUP_CHF V1.2.ex4
RS_GROUP_EUR V1.2.ex4
RS_GROUP_GBP V1.2.ex4
RS_GROUP_JPY V1.2.ex4
RS_GROUP_NZD V1.2.ex4
RS_GROUP_USD V1.2.ex4

I can make the changes myself if the source code was available, although it probably locked for a good reason.

I would like to start testing on my other account.

Many thanks in advance.

Wilko
  • #1,322
  • Feb 22, 2010 1:23pm Feb 22, 2010 1:23pm
Quoting Wilko
Live stats for GBP/JPY 1H on an Alpari Demo account starting from 10K.

http://www.mt4i.com/users/wilko-kgrs/stats


Steve - Can you add 9 character symbol support (e.g GBPJPY_fx)...
Sorry, I meant to reply to your pm. I will make the alterations soon - keep on nagging as it is not a priority for me and it will not take a long time to do; sometimes contributors have to nag me.

Just to explain about the source code, KG let me have it on the strict understanding that I would keep it unpublished; that I wht I only ever release .ex4 files.

  • #1,323
  • Feb 22, 2010 2:30pm Feb 22, 2010 2:30pm
Quoting SteveHopwood
Sorry, I meant to reply to your pm. I will make the alterations soon - keep on nagging as it is not a priority for me and it will not take a long time to do; sometimes contributors have to nag me.

Just to explain about the source code, KG let me have it on the strict understanding that I would keep it unpublished; that I wht I only ever release .ex4 files.

No problem, I've seen your threads and can see you are very busy. I've been following the Scooby thread and will post some live testing links soon also.

Best Regards,

Wilko
  • #1,324
  • Feb 22, 2010 5:01pm Feb 22, 2010 5:01pm
The alterations should be in the Original and Range Trading V3 zip. I think I have done them all, and think I have added them all. Sing out if there is a problem.

I will also look at your pm suggestion. Thanks for that; I do not understand indis but will do what I can.

Cheers

  • #1,325
  • Feb 22, 2010 5:36pm Feb 22, 2010 5:36pm
Quoting SteveHopwood
The alterations should be in the Original and Range Trading V3 zip. I think I have done them all, and think I have added them all. Sing out if there is a problem.

I will also look at your pm suggestion. Thanks for that; I do not understand indis but will do what I can.

Cheers

Just tested those and the work a treat. Many thanks.
  • #1,326
  • Feb 22, 2010 5:37pm Feb 22, 2010 5:37pm
Quoting SteveHopwood
The alterations should be in the Original and Range Trading V3 zip. I think I have done them all, and think I have added them all. Sing out if there is a problem.

I will also look at your pm suggestion. Thanks for that; I do not understand indis but will do what I can.

Cheers

Nice work Steve.

Has the "KG RS GROUP V1.1.ex4" got added support for "XXXYYY_fx" suffixes yet ?

I keep getting the XXX_fx "0 0 0" for the Scoobs KG RS Extremes EA chart print on Collective FX.

Not quite sure if Indy or EA needs some TLC on this front ?
  • #1,327
  • Feb 22, 2010 6:05pm Feb 22, 2010 6:05pm
Quoting getdown71
Nice work Steve.

Has the "KG RS GROUP V1.1.ex4" got added support for "XXXYYY_fx" suffixes yet ?

I keep getting the XXX_fx "0 0 0" for the Scoobs KG RS Extremes EA chart print on Collective FX.

Not quite sure if Indy or EA needs some TLC on this front ?
The version in the Scoobs thread has; looking at the date in the zip here, I guess this one did not. It does now.

  • #1,328
  • Feb 22, 2010 8:15pm Feb 22, 2010 8:15pm
Quoting dazar1972
10k to 26k in one week?? which settings are you using?
You seem to be one of those poor souls who doesn't get a single trade, right? You shall not fret - I had the same issue. Turns out that the fault is with the broker - once I switched some of my EAs (mainly those from Steve/Scoob from another thread) from FXCM to Alpari, trades started kicking in a minute later. I have no idea about programming and thus can only speculate why some EAs work beautifully with some brokers but not with others
  • #1,329
  • Feb 22, 2010 10:24pm Feb 22, 2010 10:24pm
Quoting SteveHopwood
The version in the Scoobs thread has; looking at the date in the zip here, I guess this one did not. It does now.

Thanks Steve

However, call me a numpty - I have tried the version posted here in zip and the version 1.2 in Scooby thread (tried renaming file to v1.1) and nothing works - remaining hair disappearing very quick.
  • #1,330
  • Feb 23, 2010 2:10am Feb 23, 2010 2:10am
Quoting getdown71
Thanks Steve

However, call me a numpty - I have tried the version posted here in zip and the version 1.2 in Scooby thread (tried renaming file to v1.1) and nothing works - remaining hair disappearing very quick.
I used the indicator from http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...postcount=1317

You will need to rename it to V1.1 or edit the EA and rename V1.1 to V1.2
  • #1,331
  • Feb 23, 2010 9:39am Feb 23, 2010 9:39am
This 10K demo account keeps going on strong ...

Balance:27,282.61
Equity:32,624.81

http://www.mt4i.com/users/wilko-kgrs/stats

One thing I have noticed is that you have to stomach a drawdown at some point and brave it out. I have not done any manual closures or alterations.
  • #1,332
  • Feb 23, 2010 10:35am Feb 23, 2010 10:35am
Quoting Wilko
This 10K demo account keeps going on strong ...

Balance:27,282.61
Equity:32,624.81

http://www.mt4i.com/users/wilko-kgrs/stats

One thing I have noticed is that you have to stomach a drawdown at some point and brave it out. I have not done any manual closures or alterations.
I braved out like this on huge DD on my live a/c. It got blown!!!!!
Demo and Live a/c are different kettle of fish my friend. So be careful.
  • #1,333
  • Feb 23, 2010 11:38am Feb 23, 2010 11:38am
Quoting xicecube
You seem to be one of those poor souls who doesn't get a single trade, right? You shall not fret - I had the same issue. Turns out that the fault is with the broker - once I switched some of my EAs (mainly those from Steve/Scoob from another thread) from FXCM to Alpari, trades started kicking in a minute later. I have no idea about programming and thus can only speculate why some EAs work beautifully with some brokers but not with others
Well not exactly, in my case the EA open trades and manage them. The thing is that my results are VERY different from those posted here. I mean, I have profits but very VERY small, actually not better than those I get in my checks account haha... I also use just the "original" version.

I understand different brokers give different results, mine is ibfx and I'm considering perhaps change to another one out of the US for the hedging restrictions...

Best for you all,

d.
  • #1,334
  • Feb 23, 2010 4:58pm Feb 23, 2010 4:58pm
Quoting vinesh
I braved out like this on huge DD on my live a/c. It got blown!!!!!
Demo and Live a/c are different kettle of fish my friend. So be careful.
Thanks for the heads up on your experience. What pair / timeframe and settings were you using?

The majority of the profit came from 2 baskets which were open all week. It probably just got lucky on this one. I think a bit more logic in the EA is required to cherry pick the pairs to trade - I'm still thinking about this one.
  • #1,335
  • Feb 23, 2010 4:58pm Feb 23, 2010 4:58pm
I still have the Range and Original trading the Range settings on my live IBFX account.

The balance had tripled by the start of November, since when it has barely moved and I have endured endless stuck baskets. The occasional basket has hit tp and been replaced, but these events have been few and far between.

I am not sure where this leaves the Range trading system. Open a small dedicated account, let the robot loose on it and sit back and wait, is my best guess at the moment.

I will say this by way of encouragement; it has never even come within hailing distance of wiping the account.

  • #1,336
  • Feb 24, 2010 1:42am Feb 24, 2010 1:42am
Quoting SteveHopwood
I still have the Range and Original trading the Range settings on my live IBFX account.

The balance had tripled by the start of November, since when it has barely moved and I have endured endless stuck baskets. The occasional basket has hit tp and been replaced, but these events have been few and far between.

I am not sure where this leaves the Range trading system. Open a small dedicated account, let the robot loose on it and sit back and wait, is my best guess at the moment.

I will say this by way of encouragement; it has never even come...
Thanks for the info Steve. How many baskets are you allowing on your live account? Perhaps if the number of allowed baskets and trades was set to a maximum and the lot sized accordingly then there would be a higher probability of a basket completing?
  • #1,337
  • Feb 24, 2010 2:03am Feb 24, 2010 2:03am
Quoting Wilko
Thanks for the info Steve. How many baskets are you allowing on your live account? Perhaps if the number of allowed baskets and trades was set to a maximum and the lot sized accordingly then there would be a higher probability of a basket completing?
Max baskets = 4; max trades allowed = 24. I have 3 baskets open at the mo; the robot is trying to open a fourth from time to time, but they keep getting cancelled through insufficient trades.

Take profit works as you suggest, using Scoobs' formula. This is not detailed in the user guide, so you need to read back here a bit to find out about it. TpMultiplicationFactor is the relevant input in the robot's inputs window.

  • #1,338
  • Feb 25, 2010 3:15pm Feb 25, 2010 3:15pm
If anyone is following this the 10K demo is now up to 52K. It started on 14th February and has only been going 11 days.

Balance:53,502.39
Equity:52,306.49

http://www.mt4i.com/users/wilko-kgrs/stats

This is running both Range and Original with default settings on GBP/JPY H1.

I have started another test with a different broker but do not get anywhere near what this one is doing. Strange how this is so different across brokers.
  • #1,339
  • Feb 25, 2010 5:18pm Feb 25, 2010 5:18pm
Quoting SteveHopwood
Max baskets = 4; max trades allowed = 24. I have 3 baskets open at the mo; the robot is trying to open a fourth from time to time, but they keep getting cancelled through insufficient trades.

Take profit works as you suggest, using Scoobs' formula. This is not detailed in the user guide, so you need to read back here a bit to find out about it. TpMultiplicationFactor is the relevant input in the robot's inputs window.


Hey Steve or anyone else in the know, just curious to know what is the longest period you have had a basket stuck in limbo before closing out with a sl or a tp?
  • #1,340
  • Feb 25, 2010 5:24pm Feb 25, 2010 5:24pm
Quoting farizu
Hey Steve or anyone else in the know, just curious to know what is the longest period you have had a basket stuck in limbo before closing out with a sl or a tp?
I have one basket outstanding from 25th November and another from 9th December.

When they do eventually close, the negative swap will wipe out the basket profits and more.

It is possible to mitigate the situation if your criminal allows hedging and you know what you are doing. I will get around to some manual intervention when I am not spending so much time coding trading robots. Until then, I simply exercise massive patience.

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