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  • #641
  • Edited 10:23pm Feb 16, 2010 10:16pm | Edited 10:23pm
Quoting forextrend
Very important:
You cannot predict the market but only follow the market
I disagree.
i am most a tech trader but...
All traders are making a prediction someway, even you.
We use indicators and trendlines to guess "where" is most factible price will go if we see a kind of trend, another guys thinks in fundamentals trying to know "how" will affect the price movement and if will be strong or weak. Some other apply Fib principles and EW, VSA etc etc and all that stuff are just tools to try to "predict" what price behavior will be. And we know all indicators are lagging, price can do whatever he want to do, even something totaly unexpected and then tech prediction fails in that moment.
Sometimes it works, sometimes not.

ps. this is the reason why mix selected tools in trading can work better. Astrofinancial study make more accurate our tech analisys. Its working for me. Planets aspects are a strong tool because they just dont affect markets, they affect people mod and situation involved with world economy.
  • #642
  • Feb 16, 2010 10:48pm Feb 16, 2010 10:48pm
Good afternoon all.
And all the same level 1.6700 on GBP is quite achievable.
On a wave marking now the fourth wave. Then a campaign in a bottom to 1.4500 and again upwards for the purpose of 1.6750.
Completely I support the stated thoughts on influence of planets.
Yours faithfully.
Good afternoon all.
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  • #643
  • Feb 16, 2010 10:57pm Feb 16, 2010 10:57pm
Quoting fxsignal
Please see attached, the turn should really occur today.

If the energy peaks due to the alignment today

all the best
Mike
My sell order was hit in that pair. Reason was because i had a tentative gann pivot at .9025 level in my road map (posted below) and i am expecting at least to lock +100 pips
Doji confirms weak upside move, if she could pass this level up the diagonal gann UTL is the resistance lim and in teory she will bounce anyway.
Above that is my SL, my extreme TP is at prior gann pivot .8875 and i thinking this night in a strong dollar.

i didnt found any planet aspect for AUD this days and that part of my call confirmation is missing so thanks for your sugest in basis of your peaks forces analisys , we agree then, and i think we are right in our short call
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  • #644
  • Feb 16, 2010 11:21pm Feb 16, 2010 11:21pm
Quoting jameshong
how about this, my friends?

GBP/USD
SELL: 1.56858/1.56884
STOP : 1.57259

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Hi James, shame i was sleep at that hour.
I am trying to locate your call in the chart and what happened to your short, i was curious. I am posting the theorical time of your move. Brave call! and enough good! i guess you toke aprox +60 no?
What aspect was in influence? short term i guess was a kind of moon aspect. Share it please.

Thanks
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  • #645
  • Feb 16, 2010 11:23pm Feb 16, 2010 11:23pm
Quoting fxsignal
You will never know what will happen in the markets, only what might happen, that alone is an edge worth exploiting.
Your statement supports what i said, you cannot predict but rather "assume", "guess", "hope", "wish" your analysis is correct.

Three years under your belt of trading is good but make it over ten yrs like me trading for a living and you will understand that yes using analysis can give a trader an edge and hope it occurs as he assumes, that is not predicting.

Thanks
  • #646
  • Feb 16, 2010 11:27pm Feb 16, 2010 11:27pm
Quoting Hades
Thank you for your invaluable work, Sublimation! With the update option QoreAstro-Events will be one of the best indicators i've ever seen! I didn't notice any problems for now. Thank you again for this amazing work!

Regards,
Hades
Hi all,

Hades! The import is ready under the Astro import link on this page: http://qore.phuu.com
As with the indi, please let me know of import issues that may arise.

Anyone is free to use this indi for visualization and anyone is free to dump in as much data as they possibly can, the more astro events inserted, the more we can see!

This is pre alpha, so for those of you interested, your ideas are much a part of the development process of the indicator(s).

I'm no Astrologer but I have the time interest and inclination to translate anyone's ideas to code in a bid to learn a little about Astrology from you guys

Quoting fxsignal
I use a lot of pattern relationships in my trading, recently I ventured into astrophysics and it is quite amazing that there is any corrolation with the price patterns. I then looked at the force variation plotted over time and the corrolation was quite spectacular.

I plotted the force against price for the gbpusd and below you can see the peaks and troughs appear to line up with the turns. This model is super simplistic, it needs to have other things factored into it.

If anyone can program, I would be happy to co-work on a project to see if...
Your descriptions of gravitational forces have sparked my interest.
Force, Astrophysics, Newtonian gravitational pulls, Einsteinian relativity, Quantum mechanics; this is the essential groundwork for Astrology, no?

Would be happy to co-work with you on this, if you chuck me the theory, I'll throw you the code. So tell me, what cha got?
  • #647
  • Feb 16, 2010 11:40pm Feb 16, 2010 11:40pm
Quoting sublimation
Hi all,

Hades! The import is ready under the Astro import link on this page: http://qore.phuu.com
As with the indi, please let me know of import issues that may arise.

Anyone is free to use this indi for visualization and anyone is free to dump in as much data as they possibly can, the more astro events inserted, the more we can see!

Great! Thanks for your indi, is working well but...

1.-What means ths error in journal "arrayinitialize function internal error"? Its a bug?

2.- Aspects finish in 2 feb? there are not anymore or is something bad with my mt4?

3.- how we can dump the data in your online database? I mean if i have a list of dates of conjunctions and squares with some planets to plot in charts?

A small guide or example of how to dump the data will help, thanks very much.

regards
  • #648
  • Feb 17, 2010 1:08am Feb 17, 2010 1:08am
Quoting zapmx
Great! Thanks for your indi, is working well but...

1.-What means ths error in journal "arrayinitialize function internal error"? Its a bug?

2.- Aspects finish in 2 feb? there are not anymore or is something bad with my mt4?

3.- how we can dump the data in your online database? I mean if i have a list of dates of conjunctions and squares with some planets to plot in charts?

A small guide or example of how to dump the data will help, thanks very much.

regards

Hi ZapMX,

1 - Fixed. This error will be gone in the next upgrade.

2 - Feb 2 was around about the last data point provided by Hades


A little more docuentation.

The fields in the table are:

- Datetime, stored as internal datetime format
- Aspect1, varchar 255
- Aspect2, varchar 255
- Aspect3, varchar 255

plus the id, the id is internal, so you don't need to worry about that, the only thing you need to worry about is in getting the datetime right, and the three aspect fields. The three aspect fields are simply descriptive fields, they appear when you hover the mouse over an event line in MT4 so you know what specific event you're looking at, as in the attached image. If you take a look at the attached image you see somthing like..
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Mar | SSxt | Ura | 1230981230
..the first three strings correspond to the aspect1, aspect2, aspect3 fields, the last is the unix timestamp of the datetime (that shouldn't be there it'll be off in the next version, it slipped thru sorry for that ).

The events insert only once so duplicates are ignored, you should see that reflected in the last 10 inserts in the table below

So if you paste the following text into the textarea the script should recognize (but ignore it since most likely its already in there, try pasting this for testing with a slight variation in the date, time or aspects).
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Oct 10 2008 11:53 PM; Mar; SSxt; Ura
Oct 31 2008 8:32 PM; Mar; SSxt; Ura
Dec 12 2008 6:50 AM; Mar; SSxt; Ura
Jan 22 2009 4:59 PM; Mar; SSxt; Ura
Then check the counter..
Quote
Last 10 of 101 events:
..to see if it incremented..
Quote
Last 10 of 105 events:
..if so, then

The small input field with a semi-colon, is the delimiter, you can change that to comma, pipe, semi-colon, dot, hash, asterisk or whateva. That was added because some programs like excel save csv files delimited as semi-colon, others as comma.
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  • #649
  • Feb 17, 2010 1:19am Feb 17, 2010 1:19am
Quoting sublimation
Hi all,

Hades! The import is ready under the Astro import link on this page: http://qore.phuu.com
As with the indi, please let me know of import issues that may arise.

Anyone is free to use this indi for visualization and anyone is free to dump in as much data as they possibly can, the more astro events inserted, the more we can see!

Hi Sublimation! Nice work, thank you! I see that this astro events database couldn't work for different instruments or currency pairs... Transit to Transit aspects have influence to overall market condition, but for detailed astro analysis we should use transit to natal data for every currency. Is there a option to separate database into few sections for different majors or indexes and stocks? The flexible way to edit and organize data series is important for research work, you know Not all aspect lines appear on MT for now...

Regards,
Hades
  • #650
  • Feb 17, 2010 2:13am Feb 17, 2010 2:13am
Quoting Hades
Hi Sublimation! Nice work, thank you! I see that this astro events database couldn't work for different instruments or currency pairs... Transit to Transit aspects have influence to overall market condition, but for detailed astro analysis we should use transit to natal data for every currency. Is there a option to separate database into few sections for different majors or indexes and stocks? The flexible way to edit and organize data series is important for research work, you know Not all aspect lines appear on MT for now...

Regards,
Hades...
Yes! we can fine tune as much as our mind allows. maybe a dropdown in the import area to specify the currency pair (EURUSD), or currency (EUR) or affected currencies/currency pairs/index. (EUR,CHF,AUD,AUDUSD,Dow,S&P,Gold)?
In MT4 we include setting to include all or filter by currency so that user can choose?
Maybe a natal area to set natal dates for each currency or index?
  • #651
  • Edited 5:12am Feb 17, 2010 4:31am | Edited 5:12am
Quoting sublimation
Yes! we can fine tune as much as our mind allows. maybe a dropdown in the import area to specify the currency pair (EURUSD), or currency (EUR) or affected currencies/currency pairs/index. (EUR,CHF,AUD,AUDUSD,Dow,S&P,Gold)?
In MT4 we include setting to include all or filter by currency so that user can choose?
Maybe a natal area to set natal dates for each currency or index?
I have few ideas in mind about grouping object and add some horizontal lines as planetary S/R lines. W. Gann related planetary positions to price. There have been several methods proposed to make calculation. According to Bill Meridian, most basically, one converts sign position entirely to degrees. A little example for Euro first trade: Sun - 13* Capricorn 25' = 13* (current position of sun) + 270* (Capricorn is 270* - 299.99* of zodiac) = 283. Minutes can add as it, or more precious (for current example) - 25' multiply by 1,6666667. So we have 283.41~ this can convert to 1,28341 (or 2,28341, or multiply/div in harmonic angles ... past on eurusd ... I attached some of my research, results is degrees as it, and other pic with conv minutes to decimal.
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  • #652
  • Feb 17, 2010 5:41am Feb 17, 2010 5:41am
Hi jameshong
I attended a Gann financial astrology seminar recently and the speaker explained that Gann said that squares, opp and hard angles cause the price to grow (ie go up) because it is only through difficulty that strength is found.
Along those lines therefore trines and other 'easy' angles cause the price to drop.

This is the exact opposite of what i have been trading by way of planetary aspects and yet this guy makes his fortune trading this way.

Whilst i can usually work out why you place your trades i am unsure when the take profit is. Can you explain a bit in the trade from yesterday please?
  • #653
  • Feb 17, 2010 1:19pm Feb 17, 2010 1:19pm
Good hard aspects between two planets means weak of supply then means price will go up infact the hard aspects between planets like if it is in Libra then no hard aspect means good for supply because few astrologer do believe that all the planets exalted in Libra (sclaes) and In Aquarius it means differnt etc depends on progression and transit charts
and friend try to check with the history

regs
Mind vission traders
  • #654
  • Feb 17, 2010 1:39pm Feb 17, 2010 1:39pm
Quoting Hades
I have few ideas in mind about grouping object and add some horizontal lines as planetary S/R lines. W. Gann related planetary positions to price. There have been several methods proposed to make calculation. According to Bill Meridian, most basically, one converts sign position entirely to degrees. A little example for Euro first trade: Sun - 13*...
Ok, I'll comment & suggest less and concentrate more on translating your ideas to machine code so that we can finally visualize under MT4. Is this screen snap in a spreadsheet that we can translate into an algorithm?
  • #655
  • Feb 17, 2010 3:40pm Feb 17, 2010 3:40pm
Quoting forextrend
Very important:
You cannot predict the market but only follow the market
I agree 100 percent, but then I think "NO, speak for yourself!" ; )

So I say you are more than half right, but some have, can and will do just what you say can't be done.

All may, none shall, few will.
  • #656
  • Edited 4:31pm Feb 17, 2010 4:18pm | Edited 4:31pm
Big movements in gold the last 24 hours as I was saying to watch for. But both today and tomorrow are more important for the metals.

I find it very important that as the stars point positive and the metals move down. I think Mars has come forward and is spoiling its affect.

I feel that gold and silver are being heavily manipulated. And this run up was artificial. If I am looking at mars correctly, and my technical charts correctly, we can see more big moves coming. I have sold short more gold today.

Mars is telling me that if gold falls more tomorrow, we will see triple figures def broken somewhere down the track, but soon.....and we could see prices in the mid $700's maybe even lower.

I find it funny the market hardly moved today. But according to my astro calendar I will be looking to take a sell positions later on in the week, maybe Friday sometime, Especially for the Asian and European markets as I have previously discussed.

USD Dollar has been trading as predcited but I have not been accumulating...... more of a big rise is on the way for USD so watch, this will put pressure on Gold and metals.

Happy Trading People.

Jesterx

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  • #657
  • Feb 17, 2010 6:22pm Feb 17, 2010 6:22pm
Quoting sublimation
Yes! we can fine tune as much as our mind allows. maybe a dropdown in the import area to specify the currency pair (EURUSD), or currency (EUR) or affected currencies/currency pairs/index. (EUR,CHF,AUD,AUDUSD,Dow,S&P,Gold)?
In MT4 we include setting to include all or filter by currency so that user can choose?
Maybe a natal area to set natal dates for each currency or index?
Sorry guys, i am using spanish to try to say something difficult in english for me. Its about the indi.

Sublimation, he visto tu perfil apenas y ví que eres latino, saludos y un placer interactuar contigo, disculpas por el atrevimiento de escribir en español y describirte más precisa que idea tengo al respecto, comento:

La lista de aspectos que se exporte a tu database podría categorizarse por ejemplo con:

a) aspectos planetarios generales (tránsito a tránsitos)

b) aspectos especificos de una divisa (tránsito a natal)


Dentro de la categoría b) puede agregarse la divisa, ejemplo 1.- Euro 2. GBP 3.- AUD 4.- USD etc

Y se podría agregar una subcategoría dentro de cada número de esos para fechas de cartas natales distintas de esa divisa (si hay más de una fecha), es decir para aquellos que eligieron una fecha, por ejemplo el euro mucha gente elige aspectos para una fecha natal en 1/1/1999 y otros prefieren utilizar otra fecha más cercana a 2002. Lo mismo sucede con el dolár y la libra.

La lista de aspectos si tenemos otra fecha difiere en las efemérides, es por eso que se debe organizar la forma en que se importarán los aspectos de tu database a la plataforma de MT4.

Es una sugerencia sobre cómo organizarla, espero pueda auxiliarte para visualizarlo.

Muchas gracias por tu trabajo, qué impresión! un programador interesado en éstos topicos!


Un efusivo saludo

pd: Argentina siempre ha tenido interés en estos asuntos de la Astrología, tópicos interestelares y geometría sagrada, que bueno tenerte aquí

thanks guys
  • #658
  • Feb 17, 2010 6:43pm Feb 17, 2010 6:43pm
Quoting zapmx
My sell order was hit in that pair. Reason was because i had a tentative gann pivot at .9025 level in my road map (posted below) and i am expecting at least to lock +100 pips
...we agree then, and i think we are right in our short call
so, how about the trades.

GBPUSD didnt hit my sell order at 1.5850 but i left open a sell order in 1.5700 in case GBP couldnt reach the gann pivot above and is working very fine until now, almost +40pips

AUDUSD is working fine too +50

i left another sell order in median line of EURUSD 1.3690 and have profited very well, +50pips hit TP early. its closed

GBPJPY still poor a few pips now but i wait to see more drop in London.

My plan is working until now and i will lock +50 in all orders and will let run them to my targets.

  • #659
  • Feb 17, 2010 6:55pm Feb 17, 2010 6:55pm
Quoting psv
Good afternoon all.
And all the same level 1.6700 on GBP is quite achievable.
On a wave marking now the fourth wave. Then a campaign in a bottom to 1.4500 and again upwards for the purpose of 1.6750.
Completely I support the stated thoughts on influence of planets.
Yours faithfully.
Good afternoon all.
OH, then you are using elliot waves?
Well, if we are going first to 1.45 it doesn matter if we reach 1.67 later heh we can play the moves.
Do you have a date aprox for this? a kind of timing?

Regards
  • #660
  • Feb 17, 2010 7:05pm Feb 17, 2010 7:05pm
Quoting trad4x
...because it is only through difficulty that strength is found.
Along those lines therefore trines and other 'easy' angles cause the price to drop.

This is the exact opposite of what i have been trading by way of planetary aspects and yet this guy makes his fortune trading this way.
.....
Wow, but you are talking of general aspects not? i mean a kind of progressive transits or transit to transit planets? that makes sense.

Because if we are talking of the general transits in some day against to natal planets in a wheel of a person or event (GBP) it doesnt make much sense, traditional astrology says another thing.

Can you elaborate?

If you can share info about your seminar will be useful, thanks
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