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  • #5,261
  • Feb 15, 2010 2:04pm Feb 15, 2010 2:04pm
Quoting RaverStyleTim2
http://www.videos.traderslaboratory....=search_videos

haven't watched these but, these should be additoinal info
Terible videos...Music in background is so loud that I couldn't hear analysis itself...It seams that he really didn't want us to hear his analysis....
The Market pays you to be disciplined
  • #5,262
  • Feb 15, 2010 4:31pm Feb 15, 2010 4:31pm
Quoting mima
Terible videos...Music in background is so loud that I couldn't hear analysis itself...It seams that he really didn't want us to hear his analysis....
here you are

youtube.com/user/TradeGuider#p/u/1/mxvbXC9HJ28
  • #5,263
  • Feb 15, 2010 5:18pm Feb 15, 2010 5:18pm
Tick volume is as it's defined number of price changes ?

If it is so, we never know how the quantity bought/sold at that price, and the pirce will change when that quantity met and next price will appear. And next price may move at much much lower quantity, For example, after noon, the price stuck at 1,5660 and the price might be fixed by big brothers ? and they all meet thier trade at this specific narrow price range with very high actual volumes and as long as price has not changed, it is neither reflected as increasing tick volume. therefore, if price does not change so much, then tick volume comes very low.

according to the VSA, high spread bars on low volume show weakness or at he beginning of mark up/down (am I right?)

I mean, my question is that, this kind of tick volume could not mislead at any phase of the market?
  • #5,264
  • Feb 15, 2010 5:22pm Feb 15, 2010 5:22pm
Quoting bruceli
Tick volume is as it's defined number of price changes ?

If it is so, we never know how the quantity bought/sold at that price, and the pirce will change when that quantity met and next price will appear. And next price may move at much much lower quantity, For example, after noon, the price stuck at 1,5660 and the price might be fixed by big brothers ? and they all meet thier trade at this specific narrow price range with very high actual volumes and as long as price has not changed, it is neither reflected as increasing tick volume. therefore,...
I have always thought that VSA works better in stocks or futures, which have a centralized exchange and volume.
You make money by waiting, not by trading.
  • #5,265
  • Feb 15, 2010 5:41pm Feb 15, 2010 5:41pm
Quoting fxspain
I have always thought that VSA works better in stocks or futures, which have a centralized exchange and volume.
yes, but, sometimes, couldt it hide their intentions ? or mislead us ?

lets look at on low volume with high spread up bars ?

in order to mark up prices, a start, iniation needs, and this is met by smart money, lets say 40-50 pips increase in seconds. and according to my observation, price increases sometimes at 7-8 pips jump at the beginning . could it mean that , they intend increasing prices as fast as, and they donot make this increase by one-one pip, but rather 4-5 pip at each transaction occured maybe less than one second and maybe in 5 seconds they increase the price 30 pips sometimes, even you cannot catch or they requote.

as increments of this price jumps is high such as 5-6 pips, and therefore price change stay at low as tick volume.
is this the reason of low volume then with high spread bars ?

yes, it should work very well, but, i am wondering whether this kinf od tick volume could be a handicap for us while making decisions ?

I am sorry, I am going to read again e-signal &realdta some sort of volume reliable sources mentioned before, however was it real volume or again tick volumes?

thank you very much for reading and answering my silly thoughts
  • #5,266
  • Feb 16, 2010 1:26am Feb 16, 2010 1:26am
hi all
any one using IBFX

I have problem with my Inter bank FX Demo account from yesterday.

I can not log in or cannot creat accont

Any one havw this problem?
  • #5,267
  • Edited 3:28am Feb 16, 2010 2:55am | Edited 3:28am
Quoting chief1oar
FXSpain,

Thank you for the reply and the comments... its good to know that I am not completely out in the ozone..

Cheers....
Chief

Hi Chief

Could you see what it takes to break or hold a High of Low Volume Area ?
Areas are Low Volume (Red) and High Volume Low Range (Blue)

In this example the Dow in the circle just exiting a low volume area (indicating No Supply at bottoms) to the upside, ... With a Red Bar, closing on Highs. Should go up, right? However, heavy Ichimoku cloud and High Churn Area (Blue) overhead. My bet: 10.250, the down.
(sorry this software does not show Volume on currencies, but the principle should be the same on stocks and indices)

Cheers Dutchy
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  • #5,268
  • Feb 16, 2010 3:17am Feb 16, 2010 3:17am
Quoting RaverStyleTim2
i'm actually having problems finding that thread from seb. do you know the handle or have the link to the vid itself? i registered but coudlnt find his thread or his username

Try this http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showth...r&pagenumber=1

Gez
Seek not to change the world; seek only to change your mind about the world
  • #5,269
  • Feb 16, 2010 4:31am Feb 16, 2010 4:31am
Got a question.

Some say that tick data feed from forex brokers is not accurate and every fx broker has different tick data, so vsa doesn't work very well. True?
Most traders recommend esignal. What do you think?
  • #5,270
  • Feb 16, 2010 4:46am Feb 16, 2010 4:46am
Every volume you could get for Forex will be tick volume. Remember that Forex is not a centralized market so you can't have the real volume.


Quoting bruceli
yes, but, sometimes, couldt it hide their intentions ? or mislead us ?

lets look at on low volume with high spread up bars ?

in order to mark up prices, a start, iniation needs, and this is met by smart money, lets say 40-50 pips increase in seconds. and according to my observation, price increases sometimes at 7-8 pips jump at the beginning . could it mean that , they intend increasing prices as fast as, and they donot make this increase by one-one pip, but rather 4-5 pip at each transaction occured maybe less than one second and maybe in...
You make money by waiting, not by trading.
  • #5,271
  • Feb 16, 2010 7:38am Feb 16, 2010 7:38am
Quoting tonirai
wajid, concerning IBFX demo, read my posts from pages 336 to 339... I mentioned that problem, which seems solved.

hi tonirai
Can you attach the server file of the ibfx 4digit demo?

Currently i'm using ibfx 5digit demo...


TIA
  • #5,272
  • Feb 16, 2010 8:46am Feb 16, 2010 8:46am
Quoting fxspain
Every volume you could get for Forex will be tick volume. Remember that Forex is not a centralized market so you can't have the real volume.
thanks a lot for the answer Espanya.

In the meantime, do you observe divergences on volumes ? Does it work ?
  • #5,273
  • Feb 16, 2010 10:57am Feb 16, 2010 10:57am
Quoting bruceli
thanks a lot for the answer Espanya.

In the meantime, do you observe divergences on volumes ? Does it work ?
Different brokers have slightly different volumes. eSignal has a GTIS data feed that is a compound of about 200 contributor institutions that works very well. I want you to know that even eSginal is tick volume, as I explain you in my last post.

VSA studies the differences in activity (volume) and tick volume measures exactly that, activity. Anyway it always will be prefered to trade a centralized market in order to use VSA, markets like stocks or futures.

Take into account that becoming proficient using VSA takes work and time, requires a lot of hours of study and monitoring, and as other systems it doesn't work always, I mean it's not the so called "Holy Grail".

I hope this can help you. "Iyi Aksamlar".
You make money by waiting, not by trading.
  • #5,274
  • Feb 16, 2010 12:54pm Feb 16, 2010 12:54pm
Quoting fxspain
Different brokers have slightly different volumes. eSignal has a GTIS data feed that is a compound of about 200 contributor institutions that works very well. I want you to know that even eSginal is tick volume, as I explain you in my last post.

VSA studies the differences in activity (volume) and tick volume measures exactly that, activity. Anyway it always will be prefered to trade a centralized market in order to use VSA, markets like stocks or futures.

Take into account that becoming proficient using VSA takes work and time, requires...
thanks again for your comments.

in the meantime, after the last enormous decrease around 2-3 pm, it started increasing again, and why I dont know, I supposed it would make a way as previous day, and in the middle I sold while it was still increasing , actually it is nothing to do wtih vsa (at least for now, maybe such movements also could be predicted, or some predictions)

I think VSa is out of question during such movements.

than you once again for your comments. "buenas noches"
  • #5,275
  • Feb 16, 2010 7:49pm Feb 16, 2010 7:49pm
I posted 2 difference time frame chart on GBPUSD. D1 show SM has push through the supply with wide spread bar A and high vol. So, do we consider those sideway mkt as "locked in traders" ?
Or are those sideway movement = SM accumulation & now SM has markup ?

On the H1 time frame. We saw wide spread bar with very high vol, are these consider sign of weakness ?

Are these mix signals ?

Pls comments, thankyou.
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  • #5,276
  • Feb 16, 2010 8:29pm Feb 16, 2010 8:29pm
EURUSD H1 has show wide up bar with high vol. The 3rd upbar saw SM start to sell to the retails. Now market went into sideway with low volume, I am confused, is market now in distribution phase ?

Any comment pls.
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  • #5,277
  • Edited 2:50am Feb 17, 2010 2:32am | Edited 2:50am
Quoting Dutchy
Hi Chief

Could you see what it takes to break or hold a High of Low Volume Area ?
Areas are Low Volume (Red) and High Volume Low Range (Blue)

In this example the Dow in the circle just exiting a low volume area (indicating No Supply at bottoms) to the upside, ... With a Red Bar, closing on Highs. Should go up, right? However, heavy Ichimoku cloud and High Churn Area (Blue) overhead. My bet: 10.250, the down.
(sorry this software does not show Volume on currencies, but the principle should be the same on stocks and indices)

Cheers Dutchy
Hello Dutchy,

Not sure I fully understand your question, however, you may be right about it going down, especially if you dont have a High Vol climax bar at either of the bottom candles.... as this would indicate NO strength had entered. I have found that a Low Volume zone doesnt hold price very often. However a High Vol zone will more often act as resistance or support when price returns to it. More money has been tied up in that area, and they will protect it when price returns... when they choose not to protect the zone... that is usually a good signal that SM has made their profit and are now ready to move to another level.

The pattern is a classic bottom reversal, providing there is very high volume on one of those bars prior to the Reverse Upthrust, or the RUT itself.

Interesting zones you have there... do they work for you?

Cheers,
Chief
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  • #5,278
  • Feb 17, 2010 3:11am Feb 17, 2010 3:11am
every one check 60 min gu ...

caN YOU SAY UPTRUST

looking for test 1.5790 with nd on 10 min for sell
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  • #5,279
  • Feb 17, 2010 4:05am Feb 17, 2010 4:05am
actually, I couldnt understand whats hapenning on 1 hour GU chart. high volumes with increasing & decreasing prices :S
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  • #5,280
  • Feb 17, 2010 4:24am Feb 17, 2010 4:24am
Quoting nico28
I posted 2 difference time frame chart on GBPUSD. D1 show SM has push through the supply with wide spread bar A and high vol. So, do we consider those sideway mkt as "locked in traders" ?
Or are those sideway movement = SM accumulation & now SM has markup ?

On the H1 time frame. We saw wide spread bar with very high vol, are these consider sign of weakness ?
.
Hi,
i was watching Cable as well. couple days.
last week was in range or if you want call it Accumulation.
that wide spread up bar followed another up bar pusshing thru resistrance on icreased havy volume
is clear SOS. (btw: it was during FOMC speaking)
All increased up bars approaching agaist some Resistance is SOS.
after this it should break range. if it doesnt then it can bounce again to range.
after break you should see a test and that is good buying opportunity.
on another post you cannot see distribution. coz at first you have strength behind you. and also that is GLOBEX session all markets was closed i suppose. also recently accumulation range had week ! ;D and this just overnight.
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