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  • #5,161
  • Feb 8, 2010 10:55pm Feb 8, 2010 10:55pm
Quoting malcolmb14
15 min worked well

here is tg charts .... 1st up move to 1.3700 got hit with buying cliumax

down move to 1,3650 ( major /sr on weekly) got hit with buyers on stopping volume

double top to 1.3700 2nd top was nd ( nt picked up by tg on 15 min)

then in asia we have test 1.3650 , however seems like sellers at 1.3700

right now she is ranging ... higher time frame works better

1.3700 to 1.3650 is range for now

on a daily we do have stopping volume at 1.3600 zone.

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Thanks Mal! - Really great help....
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  • #5,162
  • Feb 9, 2010 3:40am Feb 9, 2010 3:40am
Quoting TC East
I'll take a quick crack at this one, but I'm no expert, so maybe also see what others say.

First chart:...
Thank you very much man.

My new deo works..
  • #5,163
  • Feb 9, 2010 3:42am Feb 9, 2010 3:42am
Quoting malcolmb14
15 min worked well

here is tg charts .... 1st up move to 1.3700 got hit with buying cliumax

down move to 1,3650 ( major /sr on weekly) got hit with buyers on stopping volume

double top to 1.3700 2nd top was nd ( nt picked up by tg on 15 min)

then in asia we have test 1.3650 , however seems like sellers at 1.3700

right now she is ranging ... higher time frame works better

1.3700 to 1.3650 is range for now

on a daily we do have stopping volume at 1.3600 zone.

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Thank you too Malcomb. Nice and clear analisys.
  • #5,164
  • Feb 9, 2010 4:00am Feb 9, 2010 4:00am
I can't believe more people aren't learning this. VSA has made me a much better trader in just 4 months of studying it. Half the people I mention it to tell me it's a crock and I just laugh at them...best kept secret in forex trading. Thanks Malcolm for taking a little time to share it with me!
  • #5,165
  • Edited 7:57pm Feb 9, 2010 6:53pm | Edited 7:57pm
Anybody use Ninja with a 64 bit system? I downloaded but will not function.

Just curious.

Thank You and Regards,
Cigarguy

EDIT: oops! got it to work on 64 bit....sorry for post
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  • #5,166
  • Feb 10, 2010 2:06am Feb 10, 2010 2:06am
Sup?

I was wondering if anyone has or know of an indy that would work out roughly what the end volume would look like at the end of the TF?

What I mean is lets say after 1m it takes the volume that is already there and multiplies it by 5 (For 5m TF and then kind of shows you with a shadow what the end volume might look like if it keep up with that rate)

I know it would not be very accurate, but would just like to use it as an indicator...

THanks
PH
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  • #5,167
  • Feb 10, 2010 2:34am Feb 10, 2010 2:34am
I think someone posted that indicator long long time ago...the idea came from esignal then someone posted it here....
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  • #5,168
  • Feb 10, 2010 5:36am Feb 10, 2010 5:36am
Quoting Purple_Heart
Sup?

I was wondering if anyone has or know of an indy that would work out roughly what the end volume would look like at the end of the TF?

What I mean is lets say after 1m it takes the volume that is already there and multiplies it by 5 (For 5m TF and then kind of shows you with a shadow what the end volume might look like if it keep up with that rate)

I know it would not be very accurate, but would just like to use it as an indicator...

THanks
PH
Hopefully this can help.
Husky modified this bartimer with color some time ago and I find this very useful in decision making when watching candles.
- Shows two lines, Bar and Volume.
- Bar percentage is the time percentage in the current TF candle.
- Vol percentage is your current volume compared to the prev. candle.
- Green color means vol. increasing and Red v.v.
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  • #5,169
  • Feb 10, 2010 6:03am Feb 10, 2010 6:03am
Quoting FxCross
Hopefully this can help.
Husky modified this bartimer with color some time ago and I find this very useful in decision making when watching candles.
- Shows two lines, Bar and Volume.
- Bar percentage is the time percentage in the current TF candle.
- Vol percentage is your current volume compared to the prev. candle.
- Green color means vol. increasing and Red v.v.
Best Pip Wishes!

Thanks FxCross
I will give it a try and see if it is what I am looking for...

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  • #5,170
  • Feb 10, 2010 7:41am Feb 10, 2010 7:41am
Hello alll,

there are 2 green high churn appeared. What does it mean ?

(I'm sorry, as I read the sources, I get more confused , that's why I have felt to ask )
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  • #5,171
  • Feb 10, 2010 7:56am Feb 10, 2010 7:56am
Quoting bruceli
Hello alll,

there are 2 green high churn appeared. What does it mean ?

(I'm sorry, as I read the sources, I get more confused , that's why I have felt to ask )

"

Volume Churn is simply the bar's volume divided by the bar's high to low range. When
Volume Churn is high it indicates demand is being met by new supply at tops or supply is
being met by new demand at bottoms - in effect, price is not able to advance as new

supply or demand enters the market."
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  • #5,172
  • Feb 10, 2010 10:36am Feb 10, 2010 10:36am
Here's a continuation of the chart I posted earlier this week showing our trainer in action on the globex Dollar h1 chart. (The very left blue square on the Red VSR Line I believe is where the last chart posted started)

The highlighted signal alone (arrow) garnered about 530ish pips overnight on a long US dollar trade.

http://content.screencast.com/users/...02-10_1114.png


The only thing really delaying the release of the VSA system is a bug in the Volume SR module. It's useful but not hugely so. I may decide to release without it for the time being. Let me know what you think.

I hope you all have a great week. If you have any questions PM me.


PS As always the screenshot is missing a lot of modules. I am testing each aspect and signal groupings as I go. Creating templates for various purposes etc. Sorry if it's confusing it won't be soon.
The trend always ends.
  • #5,173
  • Feb 10, 2010 10:50am Feb 10, 2010 10:50am
Shamus,

We appreciate greatly you and your teams efforts toward this thread (a interactive learning experience) and the VSA trainer.

My thought is to complete the project and then release. You will have a ton of questions to answer as to how best to utilize trainer after and may get bogged down.

Thanks again for this above and beyond effort.

Bill
  • #5,174
  • Feb 10, 2010 11:13am Feb 10, 2010 11:13am
Quoting Shamus
Here's a continuation of the chart I posted earlier this week showing our trainer in action on the globex Dollar h1 chart. (The very left blue square on the Red VSR Line I believe is where the last chart posted started)

The highlighted signal alone (arrow) garnered about 530ish pips overnight on a long US dollar trade.




The only thing really delaying the release of the VSA system is a bug in the Volume SR module. It's useful but not hugely so. I may decide to release without it for the time being. Let me know what you think.

I hope you...

Thanks Shamus, looking good.

Gez
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  • #5,175
  • Feb 10, 2010 11:28am Feb 10, 2010 11:28am
Quoting Shamus
Here's a continuation of the chart I posted earlier this week showing our trainer in action on the globex Dollar h1 chart....
Shams, your killing me....

After reading through this whole thread it is like I know you personally, (like the cousin of my mother twice removed from her uncles side that I never had) and been waiting for this trainer for like.... I don't know .... four weeks....

Doing pretty well with VSA seeing that I did read MTM a while ago before even knowing this thread existed.... (Maybe it did not exist yet... )

Anyway, the VSA trainer would be just that...
I think the reason I want to try it so bad is that it may alert you to a possible trade at a glance without you having to spend 10 minutes on every currency checking BG, and then you can check BG and decide if you agree and then take (or not) the trade... but it would obviously not be a manual system which I think would be good... more of a helper.... like your knee when the toilet seat does not want to stay up....

Anyway, SR I feel we can draw ourselves for now, and later when it is debugged we can just add it....

Let me put it this way, you have been debugging this thing for a few months now, and you are STILL excited about it and have not scrapped it yet....

So do I think you should let it loose...... HELL YE!!!!


PS: After looking at the chart again and remembering you said that it only shows some of the modules, I was just wondering if the manual for this thing will fit on a CD or if you would have to use a DVD?

Blessings
PH
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  • #5,176
  • Feb 10, 2010 11:49am Feb 10, 2010 11:49am
Release it now as Version 1.0 for example and if are able to debug the missing module then release a Version 1.1 maybe 6 months or a year from now. Thanks in advance you and your team for taking your valuable time to help us VSA traders. mlp
Quoting Shamus
Here's a continuation of the chart I posted earlier this week showing our trainer in action on the globex Dollar h1 chart. (The very left blue square on the Red VSR Line I believe is where the last chart posted started)

The highlighted signal alone (arrow) garnered about 530ish pips overnight on a long US dollar trade.

http://content.screencast.com/users/...02-10_1114.png


The only thing really delaying the release of the VSA system is a bug in the Volume...
  • #5,177
  • Feb 10, 2010 11:54am Feb 10, 2010 11:54am
today there is a question came into my mind. Why dont we have 2hours,6 hours or some other different from as default served in mt4 timeframes ?

And do we have chance to add to the mt4 other timeframes suchas 2 hours ?

(maybe adding 2 bars of 1 hour would reply this question, but in defaut it would be easier without no effort)
  • #5,178
  • Feb 10, 2010 11:58am Feb 10, 2010 11:58am
Quoting bruceli
today there is a question came into my mind. Why dont we have 2hours,6 hours or some other different from as default served in mt4 timeframes ?

And do we have chance to add to the mt4 other timeframes suchas 2 hours ?

(maybe adding 2 bars of 1 hour would reply this question, but in defaut it would be easier without no effort)
There are work arounds for mt4, just check for period converters in the programming forum.

The new version (mt5) allows for any time frame.
The trend always ends.
  • #5,179
  • Feb 10, 2010 12:10pm Feb 10, 2010 12:10pm
Quoting bruceli
today there is a question came into my mind. Why dont we have 2hours,6 hours or some other different from as default served in mt4 timeframes ?

And do we have chance to add to the mt4 other timeframes suchas 2 hours ?

(maybe adding 2 bars of 1 hour would reply this question, but in defaut it would be easier without no effort)
Because it would probably be best to use the same TF as the SM. Now I have almost never heard of anyone using 2 or 6 hr TF. That would mean that if you use it you would be looking at a screen that no one else is seeing. And any conclusion you make on that TF is one that only you will come up with, and not the rest of the world as well.

The same goes for SR levels. The ones that are the most obvious (that every one can see) are also usually the ones that are the strongest. (Lot of activity)

Therefore 2 and 6 TF would not be allot of use, rather stick with 5,15, 1hr and 1day TF, they are the most widely used. (Basically all the ones that are already there)
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  • #5,180
  • Feb 10, 2010 3:50pm Feb 10, 2010 3:50pm
Quoting Purple_Heart
Because it would probably be best to use the same TF as the SM. Now I have almost never heard of anyone using 2 or 6 hr TF. That would mean that if you use it you would be looking at a screen that no one else is seeing. And any conclusion you make on that TF is one that only you will come up with, and not the rest of the world as well.

The same goes for SR levels. The ones that are the most obvious (that every one can see) are also usually the ones that are the strongest. (Lot of activity)

Therefore 2 and 6 TF would not be allot of use, rather...
yes, you are absolutely right, and I was just studying on better vol indi with colors only, (not taking into account the spread of price bars), looking back today's graph, and I am down nowi I thought that I might found some patterns without looking at prices but for now it is impossible. I have to study harder and harder .......
really very difficult deal
thank a lot for your advices and helps.
I will be here and ask stupid questions after finishing my homework
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