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  • #41
  • Feb 2, 2010 12:34am Feb 2, 2010 12:34am
Quoting juannie
I'm going to forward test Ding_Dong_Dazz now.

Ouw, one thing to ask: what was the backtesting result?
Great, Good, or Bad?
Not the greatest, actually. I've been backtesting it over a six month period with EUR/USD and .01 lot size with a net loss between $25 and $80 US. If you were to bump that up to 1.0 lots (on mini account), you're talking between $2500 and $8000, so ...

I also seem to be getting the same results (more or less) no matter what version I test. But hey, you gotta keep messing around with it until you come up with something. Neither do I feel like I've wasted my time doing it, because I'm actually learning something. The next thing on the list is I think is the Ding Dong Trio and, after that, possibly a Ding Dong Hedge.

I'm also going to look into some indicators, to incorporate and work with this or, something similar.
  • #42
  • Feb 2, 2010 4:28am Feb 2, 2010 4:28am
I think that the backtesting result was not good.

In forward test, i got profit, but sometimes loss too.

But, i think with Ding_Dong_Dazz, and a little control from we (the human who used it), we could gain consistent profit.
I wonder it's because of the features that you put in Ding_Dong_Dazz to trade the opposite direction if situation goes reversible.

About the indicator, i don't hate indicators, but i think it's far beyond what i want my robot to do.
In my opinion, i want my robot to do just what i ask it to do.
I don't want my robot to forecast the market using any indicators, signals, or anything.
I don't want my robot acts by itself to considering indicators, etc, and trade on behalf me with its logic to consider.
Robot should follow my rules.
Robot should not try to forecast the market by any logic.
It's like the robot try to get smart or pretending that it is smart.
Robot is just a tool that must follow the rules.
Yeah, that's my opinion.

Oh, i really thank you that you feel you don't waste my time with this Ding_Dong things.
I really appreciate that you think forward to develop Ding_Dong to Ding_Dong_Trio and even Ding_Dong_Hedge.

Two thumbs up for you, friend!

I really believe this Ding_Dong worth your effort.
It will become the EA that make us profit.
And it will continue to become my robot with full obedience to the rules i've made.

Thank you, friend!

P.S:
I'm not discourage you to put any indicators to Ding_Dong.
Let me know if you put any.
I'm an open-minded person.
I like to try new things.
But to be honest, i'm gonna use Ding_Dong that follow my rules only.
  • #43
  • Feb 2, 2010 5:06am Feb 2, 2010 5:06am
Hi Guys,

Not sure if you welcome me in this group or not. I tried forward testing this today and it took 5 trades till now.

4 hit TP
2 hit SL

Since the SL > TP (12 > 7), result is breakeven.

Can you please try to include the trading hours to start or end the trading also to start trading at particular price instead of it jumping immediately into the trade. In that way we can control it a bit.

Also, we may consider finding the trend and trend strength in higher tf to take either only buy or only sell orders.

Thanks
Prakash
  • #44
  • Feb 2, 2010 10:07am Feb 2, 2010 10:07am
The EA is supposed to trade automatically and run all the time. So no, I'm afraid I can't help you there. However, almost everything I do, including backtesting, forward testing and trading live, I do it in the 15 minute time frame.

But hey, you are free to test it in whatever way you like, and post the results. And feel free to change the settings!

And yes, I agree, we have to try find a way to control it. This is why I'm looking for a good trend indicator.
  • #45
  • Feb 2, 2010 10:52am Feb 2, 2010 10:52am
@ reachjj"

I want my robot to trade all the time.
About the real TF, i will share it later...in a proper time.
And i always want my robot to jumping immediately into the trade when i initialized it from the first time.
If you want any customization, please ask my friend: ecTrade, or you could make this Ding_Dong to be customized EA as you wish with your own rules.
You're a IT Engineer, right?
So i think you should be able to do a little customization for this EA.


@ ecTrade: What do you think about customization for Ding_Dong to be more comfortable for reachjj?
Is that allright with you, friend?
  • #46
  • Feb 2, 2010 11:04am Feb 2, 2010 11:04am
Quoting juannie
But, i think with Ding_Dong_Dazz, and a little control from we (the human who used it), we could gain consistent profit.
Yes.

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About the indicator, i don't hate indicators, but i think it's far beyond what i want my robot to do.
In my opinion, i want my robot to do just what i ask it to do.
I don't want my robot to forecast the market using any indicators, signals, or anything.
Unfortunately though, robots are only as good as the rules they operate by. Sometimes they require more input. If it's something that generates a good "signal," then it's well worth considering. And if you think about it, an indicator is nothing more than a robot either, as it's all done automatically.

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I'm not discourage you to put any indicators to Ding_Dong.
Let me know if you put any.
In fact I just found this indicator the other day (there are two versions) and it looks quite promising or, at least it's worth a try. I think I'm going to try and set the EA to operate in either Buy or Sell mode, depending on the "trend" signals it generates which, thus far looks pretty reliable. Or, even if it's right only 75% of the time, I think it still might be enough to make a substantial difference, as the EA is pretty much setup to "break even," regardless.

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I'm an open-minded person.
I like to try new things.
The main thing is to find something that works.

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But to be honest, i'm gonna use Ding_Dong that follow my rules only.
What you are saying is you like to have some degree of control. I'm like that too.

Oh, I found the indicator on this forum a couple of days ago and, for the life of me, I can't find the thread it's attached to? Sorry ...
Attached File(s)
File Type: mq4 Heiken_Ashi_Ma_T3.mq4   6 KB | 249 downloads
File Type: mq4 Heiken_Ashi_Ma_T3-1.mq4   7 KB | 246 downloads
  • #47
  • Feb 2, 2010 11:17am Feb 2, 2010 11:17am
Quoting juannie
@ ecTrade: What do you think about customization for Ding_Dong to be more comfortable for reachjj?
Is that allright with you, friend?

Possibly. It all depends on what he wants.
  • #48
  • Feb 2, 2010 11:23am Feb 2, 2010 11:23am
Yes!
We are on the same shoes.

I feel if we need to add any indicators to make this Ding_Dong more powerful and still doing anything according to the rules we put in it, that's wonderful!

About the indicators, i've get that indicator before.
In another forum, many members said that indicators were very useful.


Please tell me how to put this indicators to get along with Ding_Dong, or to work together with Ding_Dong, friend....
Do you need to code the Ding_Dong again and put that indicators inside the Ding_Dong?
Or is there any other ways?
  • #49
  • Feb 2, 2010 3:18pm Feb 2, 2010 3:18pm
Here is the thread with the indicator files attached by the way. The second file was created just to add an email alert.
  • #50
  • Feb 3, 2010 12:09am Feb 3, 2010 12:09am
Quoting ecTrade
Possibly. It all depends on what he wants.
Most of the Asian sessions will be rangebound for EU trading. That was the reason why I asked start and end trade timings.

Also, we can start at some round numbers like 1.3900, 1.3950, 1.3975 etc... where mostly the trend gets changed..

will await your response.

Thanks,
ReachJJ
  • #51
  • Feb 3, 2010 12:55am Feb 3, 2010 12:55am
Hello every body

I dont no were i have to ask some one that can help to build an EA voor the system that i use.

The EA dont have to trade but to give an alert wen all the conditions are met.

If there is some body hoe like to do that please right back so i can send the system and the entry rulls.

Thanks.

Yoenes
  • #52
  • Feb 3, 2010 1:04am Feb 3, 2010 1:04am
Quoting Yoenes
Hello every body

I dont no were i have to ask some one that can help to build an EA voor the system that i use.

The EA dont have to trade but to give an alert wen all the conditions are met.

If there is some body hoe like to do that please right back so i can send the system and the entry rulls.

Thanks.

Yoenes
Try starting a new thread. And post the same information you have posted here.
  • #53
  • Feb 3, 2010 1:06am Feb 3, 2010 1:06am
Quoting reachjj
Most of the Asian sessions will be rangebound for EU trading. That was the reason why I asked start and end trade timings.
Rangebound? What does that mean?

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Also, we can start at some round numbers like 1.3900, 1.3950, 1.3975 etc... where mostly the trend gets changed..

will await your response.
It sounds like work. Will need more information and time to think about it ...
  • #54
  • Feb 3, 2010 6:45am Feb 3, 2010 6:45am
Quoting ecTrade
Rangebound? What does that mean?
I mean, it goes up and down every 5-10 pips and also the movement will be less.
[quote=It sounds like work. Will need more information and time to think about it ...[/QUOTE]
Yes....Appreciate your help if you can include this in your new version.

Today there were around 7-8 trades which hit TP and 3 hit stoploss... looking good so far.....
  • #55
  • Edited 8:14am Feb 3, 2010 7:58am | Edited 8:14am
Quoting reachjj
I mean, it goes up and down every 5-10 pips and also the movement will be less.
I'm still not sure what you're saying?

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Yes....Appreciate your help if you can include this in your new version.
Sounds like you're familiar with it more than I am I'm afraid ...

As for the "round numbers," are saying I should set the "initial" start target every 25 points and, that it should fall specifically on one of these numbers? I suppose I might be able to do that or, set it up so it's adjustable ... so then you don't need to be quite so specific.

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Today there were around 7-8 trades which hit TP and 3 hit stoploss... looking good so far.....
Thanks.
  • #56
  • Feb 3, 2010 8:09am Feb 3, 2010 8:09am
Quoting ecTrade
I'm still not sure what you're saying?

Sounds like you're familiar with it more than I am I'm afraid.

Letsay the current value is 1.3940, and it has taken a buy. It might have gone up for a while but before hitting the TP, it would come down taking the sell. again before hitting the TP for sell order, it might reverse again and this goes on and on.. Thats I called as Ranging Market.
[quote=As for the "round numbers," are saying I should set the "initial" start target every 25 points and, that it should fall specifically on one of these numbers? I don't know, maybe I can do that or, possibly set it up so it's adjustable ... then it doesn't have to be quite so specific.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]


yes thats correct.....
  • #57
  • Feb 3, 2010 9:18am Feb 3, 2010 9:18am
I just saw that, this EA doesnt use any Magic Number. so can I use multiple instances of this EA without any issues or how is like that.

I am just trying to put two instances now, one with buy and one with sell :-)

Lets see how it works.

Thanks
Reach
  • #58
  • Feb 3, 2010 9:53am Feb 3, 2010 9:53am
No there shouldn't be any issues, at least with the version you are using. Just open it up on whatever chart you want to use it on.
  • #59
  • Edited Feb 4, 2010 10:59am Feb 3, 2010 11:32am | Edited Feb 4, 2010 10:59am
Okay guys, here it is. I'm not sure it's going to work the way it should, nor did I get a chance to do everything I wanted (getting too complicated) but, I figured I should toss it out and give everyone a chance to see it. Basically I've added the indicator and a couple of other things. If you want to use the indicator, you need to copy it into your indicator folder, compile it, and open it up from the custom indicator folder and attach it to the same chart you are using the EA on. And here, it's probably better to open the indicator first.

Basically there are five options to choose from using Option_1_5:

Option 1 = Ding Dong Dazz in Buy mode.

Option 2 = Ding Dong Dazz in Sell mode.

Option 3 = Ding Dong Classic in Buy mode.

Option 4 = Ding Dong Classic in Sell mode.

Option 5 = Indicator mode.

And, when in Indicator mode (5), there are four options to choose using Indicator_1_4. However, since they are basically the same options above, there is no need to repeat them. There is a difference though which, when selected, you are selecting the "initial" trade. In that way it works in pairs: which, together with the indicator alarm, swings between Ding Dong Dazz Buy and Sell and Ding Dong Classic (original) Buy and Sell. In other words you are choosing between options 1 and 2 to operate in "Dazz mode," and options 3 and 4 to operate in "Classic mode."

Oh, if you leave it set to 0, it defaults to Option 1.

Any questions?

Have fun!

ETA: Have modified both files twice already. The first time because the indicator and EA weren't communicating properly, the second time for further adjustments. I'm still in the process of working on it though so, I can't guarantee that it will work optimally.
Attached File(s)
File Type: mq4 Ding_Dong_Dazz_V1.2.mq4   8 KB | 232 downloads
File Type: mq4 Heiken_Ashi_Ma_T3_01.mq4   7 KB | 273 downloads
  • #60
  • Feb 3, 2010 10:23pm Feb 3, 2010 10:23pm
Quoting ecTrade
Okay guys, here it is. I'm not sure it's going to work the way it should, nor did I get a chance to do everything I wanted (getting too complicated) but, I figured I should toss it out and give everyone a chance to see it. Basically I've added the indicator and a couple of other things. If you want to use the indicator, you need to copy it into your indicator folder, compile it, and open it up from the custom indicator folder and attach it to the same chart you are using the EA on. And here, it's probably better to open the indicator first.

Basically...
I set Option 1_5 as 5 and Indicator 1_4 to 1. It displays Heinken Ashi says...Null(0)

Can you please help in fixing this issue.
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