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  • #441
  • Jan 15, 2010 5:00am Jan 15, 2010 5:00am
Quoting Hades
Another EurUsd d1 chart with Mars Uranus aspects; blue helio, others are geocenteric ...
Mars - Uranus aspects is useful for CHF; EUR; JPY; S&P 500 ... they last several weeks; Uranus - "financial" planet, Mras - planet of "energy, activity and strength". Gann sentences Mars as the key to timing. Sometimes aspects can reverse their roles and the traders should be prepared to act opposite of the norm ... anyway timing effect 2-3 days or sometimes a week to change in trend ...
Hi,

How can I get this chart?

Many thanks
  • #442
  • Jan 15, 2010 5:19am Jan 15, 2010 5:19am
Quoting Ibuks
Hi,

How can I get this chart?

Many thanks


Hi Ibuks, these charts are for research purpose, you can draw vertical lines on your trading platform on the time and date of aspects to watch motions (really boring work, i know), but after this is funny part You also can use Wave59 software... I want to try "to put all together" in a MT indicator, but need much help for that ... If anyone have script for drawing multiple vertical lines and know how to import time and date for this from a file, Please, share with us!
  • #443
  • Jan 15, 2010 5:38am Jan 15, 2010 5:38am
Here are aspects of transiting planets Venus and Mars and their aspects to Uranus on GBPUSD daily chart ... Blue - Mars; Red Venus aspects. Both are geocentric.
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  • #444
  • Jan 15, 2010 5:54am Jan 15, 2010 5:54am
Quoting Hades
Hi Ibuks, these charts are for research purpose, you can draw vertical lines on your trading platform on the time and date of aspects to watch motions (really boring work, i know), but after this is funny part You also can use Wave59 software... I want to try "to put all together" in a MT indicator, but need much help for that ... If anyone have script for drawing multiple vertical lines and know how to import time and date for this from a file, Please, share with us!
Thanks...

Hopefully a programmer will come up to help.

Maybe u should post it on the programming thread, someone might take an interest.
  • #445
  • Jan 15, 2010 2:57pm Jan 15, 2010 2:57pm
Hi everyone great work,

I have MT4 indicator code written to read from a database source and display vertical lines on MT4 chart , I could modify this for your astrological data.

To go forward, I would need an example of the data that you wish to display, in .csv or .xls would be great.

Fields required:
Astrological event name
Datetime (or preferably the unix timestamp, if available)

In theory these astro event lines would be displayed on any chart that has the indicator loaded and on any timeframe, so if you switch to a different ticker the lines would remain or if you zoom into a lower timeframe, the lines would pan out accordingly.

Maybe you can think of more useful information that could also be displayed.
  • #446
  • Jan 16, 2010 6:49am Jan 16, 2010 6:49am
Quoting sublimation
Hi everyone great work,

I have MT4 indicator code written to read from a database source and display vertical lines on MT4 chart , I could modify this for your astrological data.

To go forward, I would need an example of the data that you wish to display, in .csv or .xls would be great...

Sublimation, thank you for this fast and excellent response. Here is the data for about month, with major aspects. If this project comes true, will fill up a big gap in MT4 indicators Time zone is GMT 0; If you need anything else, let me know.

Regards,
Hades
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File Type: xls Transit Transit.xls   20 KB | 830 downloads
  • #447
  • Edited 10:48pm Jan 16, 2010 9:51am | Edited 10:48pm
i was thinking something like this ....

(note: the data of planets aspects etc are imaginary ...)

perhaps jameshong could give a list of planets (column E) that give buy or sell signal (column H) for the different currencies or his preferred currency like Euro or Aussie etc

http://i47.tinypic.com/28veps8.jpg

btw , is it true that different astrology software give placement of planets in different signs .. ? let's say one says saturn is in virgo another says libra .. or jupiter in aquarius or pisces ....so which one to use ?... which one is accurate ..? wouldn't the readings and the interpretations be very far apart ....if we say jupiter zero degree moon ... wouldn't it also say jupiter 90 degrees moon in another astrology program ....so which one should be used ?.... very very confused ...?

  • #448
  • Jan 16, 2010 3:26pm Jan 16, 2010 3:26pm
Hi,

Reading all the thread i was thinking... what if all people interested can research, learn and find correlations between currencies and his planetary cycles and post the result here?

Then we need a recap to newbies like me reaching this point.

Chapter one.

What we need to follow these planetary cycles?

ok... here is my first importants things and tools:

1.- Choose what currency we want to follow and research.
James is managing 3 currencies. The date of born of the used currencies are:

Euro.
January 1, 1999, 12:01 GMT Place Frankfurt (germany)

Gbp.
12/abril/1927 12.01 am GMT Place London (United Kingdom)

Aud.
14/February/1966 12.01 GMT Canberra (australia)

Then we need to make (It doesn hurt and to have it) the natal wheel chart of the currency. Hey! i found Aud currency has most power stars in his chart than others.

2.- For this we can use an astrology programm. I have used Astro123 because is ver good, easy and free u can download it here http://www.astrowin.org/astro123.php but there is another programm i am checking, its most difficult to use but is free too... is the What watch, link here http://www.papertv.com/download.html

So we have the Natal charts but we need to know how to compare the posteriors aspects affecting each currency in early and lately months (and to research dates of importants moves) and of course to know the best time to trade it. Then is important to know... Which is my NOW time?
If you choose broker time then you need to know his server time. Example IBFX is 0 GMT or if you choose your local time then make proper adjusts.

3.- Ok, now we need a specific programm with scheduled aspects for each currency. Astrowin123 and what watch are not very automated in this case in my opinion (we need to move week over week or months to find important aspects) and is reason to me to use for that aspects this FREE programm too SE Aspectarian http://www.astrowin.org/se_aspectarian.php and find importants aspects in each currency.



What to do with all this stuff? I think i will left to next chapter

I am ok until here? Comments?
  • #449
  • Jan 16, 2010 4:03pm Jan 16, 2010 4:03pm
But...

What are those aspects? What if a transit planet is in trine with a dominant natal planet of EURO? What means? is good or bad?


First, definitions:

conjuntion = 000 degrees
sextil = 60 degrees
square = 90 degrees
trine = 120 degress
quincunx = 150 degrees
opposition = 180 degrees

The difference between the exact aspect and the actual aspect is called the orb.



On general (because we will see later each aspect affect in different way a currency) keep in mind that trines and sextiles mean opportunities; these are often taken for granted. Squares and oppositions are challenges; these are very noticeable. Conjunctions can be easy or difficult depending on the planets involved.

Don't get excited over minor aspects. Concentrate on the major ones, especially the square, opposition, conjunction and trine.

Its better if you can know dominants planets of the currencies because you can check just important aspects between transit planets and the dominant planets of the currency. Example:

Euro has two dominants planets, in first place Moon and in second place Venus, then we can check just aspects with these planets involved.


And is not a weird thing!

"Millionaires don't use Astrology, billionaires do!" - Mr. J.P. Morgan


Ok, i think we have basics now
  • #450
  • Jan 16, 2010 6:25pm Jan 16, 2010 6:25pm
So I was reading this thread for about an hour, and It got me thinking that if you trade on astrology, you will have 5 trades a year. Shift in trends don't happen only because of astrology. Some things that people said makes me think that they are crazy.

This is for people who trade futures only, right? Or am I not getting the whole picture. Anyways I trade on session-to-session and day-to-day basis, my analysis is on weekly basis.

This astrology theories I feel like they are like Y2K and "global warming", which are true, but they are normal process of life on this planet. I think some one in the industry is trying to make himself rich on something that is true, but has very little effect on the spot market. Don't get fooled by other people over exaggerated truth, because it won't make you money, let alone RICH. Make your own decisions on your own analysis.

Like ohh market trend has switch because some planet passed over Europe, but they ignore shifts of balance of power that happened in that period, the real news, gov't policies, wars/natural disasters and traders move markets. And planets just orbit around the Sun. They have been doing that even before the modern day markets system has ever existed.


No disrespect to anyone's way of trading, in my opinion its bunch of mambo jambo based on theories and no proof.

Good luck to all of you...
  • #451
  • Edited 10:45pm Jan 16, 2010 10:35pm | Edited 10:45pm
Quoting kilalik
So I was reading this thread for about an hour, and It got me thinking that if you trade on astrology, you will have 5 trades a year. Shift in trends don't happen only because of astrology. Some things that people said makes me think that they are crazy.

This is for people who trade futures only, right? Or am I not getting the whole picture. Anyways I trade on session-to-session and day-to-day basis, my analysis is on weekly basis.

This astrology theories I feel like they are like Y2K and "global warming", which are true, but they are normal...


good head on shoulders and feet firmly on ground (or rather Planet Earth)

  • #452
  • Jan 16, 2010 10:44pm Jan 16, 2010 10:44pm
"Millionaires don't use Astrology, billionaires do!" - Mr. J.P. Morgan

hundrednaires --- use tips (?)

thoundandnaires -- use indicators (?)

millionaires --- don't use Astrology

billionaires --- use Astrology ... is it because that they have everything money can buy and lots of free time to do other things except trade and they are so isolated from the real world that they have to look to the Heavens and Planets to give them the confidence .. ?

(...just some sunday musings ... )
  • #453
  • Jan 17, 2010 12:19am Jan 17, 2010 12:19am
Quoting zapmx
Hi,

Reading all the thread i was thinking... what if all people interested can research, learn and find correlations between currencies and his planetary cycles and post the result here?

Then we need a recap to newbies like me reaching this point.

Chapter one.

What we need to follow these planetary cycles?

ok... here is my first importants things and tools:

1.- Choose what currency we want to follow and research.
James is managing 3 currencies. The date of born of the used currencies...
ZAPMX kind day.
Good references, it is very grateful.
Pay attention to it the reference - http://astrozet.net/index.html - the site has English language.
Files here - http://astrozet.net/downloads.html.
The processor interface has English language.
Lite - it is free
Professional - paid
???? ????!
  • #454
  • Jan 17, 2010 6:10am Jan 17, 2010 6:10am
Quoting kilalik
So I was reading this thread for about an hour, and It got me thinking that if you trade on astrology, you will have 5 trades a year. Shift in trends don't happen only because of astrology. Some things that people said makes me think that they are crazy...
... No disrespect to anyone's way of trading, in my opinion its bunch of mambo jambo based on theories and no proof.

Good luck to all of you...

There is a movie Quantum astrology, i have been watching some time ago ... You should try to find this film and see what is about. I think this will be interesting different point of view to you

Regards,
Hades
  • #455
  • Jan 17, 2010 6:21am Jan 17, 2010 6:21am
Quoting psv
ZAPMX kind day.
Good references, it is very grateful.
Pay attention to it the reference - http://astrozet.net/index.html - the site has English language.
Files here - http://astrozet.net/downloads.html...

I like the calendar option of this program, it's a great astrology software. I use it from ver. 5.
  • #456
  • Jan 17, 2010 4:31pm Jan 17, 2010 4:31pm
Hello Astros!

Hades: Thank you for preparing the excel file, it served well the indicator is ready, although we need more historical data to look back for price correlation.
I'm very excited.

Here are my 2 cents. This current implementation requires the importation of the .sql file into mysql database to run, so for anyone that does not have the database system installed, no worries, in further versions we plan to centralize the information such that the data displayed on the charts is community generated. It is very initial stages at the moment, only vertical color lines are visible for now. We need more historical data to make this indicator shine. Any ideas are most welcome. Thanks
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  • #457
  • Jan 17, 2010 4:49pm Jan 17, 2010 4:49pm
Screenshot of what Qore-Astro-Events should look like with the initial data from Hades
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  • #458
  • Jan 18, 2010 2:24am Jan 18, 2010 2:24am
Quoting sublimation
Hello Astros!

Hades: Thank you for preparing the excel file, it served well the indicator is ready, although we need more historical data to look back for price correlation.
I'm very excited.

Here are my 2 cents. This current implementation requires the importation of the .sql file into mysql database to run, so for anyone that does not have the database system installed, no worries, in further versions we plan to centralize the information such that the data displayed on the charts is community generated. It is very initial stages at the...
Thank you for your effort sublimation! I am greatly impressed by your work and will help with anything i can do to make this worthwhile project better and better. So, here are Mars / Uranus major aspects from 2000 till 2011. The aspects of these planets have a strong influence to the market, as i posted in #440. I will post and other planetary aspects with meaning to the market timing.

Regards,
Hades
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File Type: xls Mars Uranus hst.xls   32 KB | 711 downloads
  • #459
  • Jan 18, 2010 3:16am Jan 18, 2010 3:16am
Quoting psv
ZAPMX kind day.
Good references, it is very grateful.
Pay attention to it the reference - http://astrozet.net/index.html - the site has English language.
Files here - http://astrozet.net/downloads.html.
The processor interface has English language.
Lite - it is free
Professional - paid
Thanks psv, i have download it and seems very nice, something more complex than others i guess.
The forecast calendar is very good but i need to make extense review to catch valid clues.

What tips can you share with us about this programm?

Thanks
  • #460
  • Jan 18, 2010 4:01am Jan 18, 2010 4:01am
Quoting sublimation
Hello Astros!

This current implementation requires the importation of the .sql file into mysql database to run, so for anyone that does not have the database system installed, no worries, in further versions we plan to centralize the information such that the data displayed on the charts is community generated. It is very initial stages at the moment, only vertical color lines are visible for now. We need more historical data to make this indicator shine. Any ideas are most welcome. Thanks
what a fast work!

If i dont have DB sql system installed the indi is not working, right?
We must wait posterior version of the indi or we could install the db system anyway to help in testing now. its better?

I guess later when the indi will be finish, we could change the list of different events aspects imported to display on the specific chart. It will be fantastic!

many thanks for your efforts
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