VHands Trading Simulator

Hi & Happy New Year FF.
Was wondering if anyone here has also tried & used the LFH trading simulator?
If so how does it compare to the one posted here?
Problem I've had in the past with LFHTS is that if you try to test any line based indis like s&r breakout line then the script doesn't enter tp &/or sl, if I remember correctly. So have to avoid testing the h-line based indis when using it.
I can probably use it for just about anything else I want to although it will only let you enter one trade at a time.

Another VHands question. Concerning the speed control, what setting is real-time? I mean, where do i set it so an hour takes an hour? Thanks!

ed

in the mt4 tester window next to the 'visual mode' tickbox and before the play / pause button is a slider from 1 to 32... set it to 1, and have yourself an extremely boring and unproductive time.

why would you want to do that anyway?

Because I sometimes wanna eat or piss or something and I need to walk away from the computer. If I'm trading live, I can't realistically pause the thing and go away. I just wanna make it as close to what I would really be doing as possible. Thanks for the answer.

ed

the idea is to work-out a strategy that works. i would, and do, pause the sucker. i'm generally running it at full or almost full acceleration depending on how fast the charts draw (high volume slows it down due to having to draw more tick movements per bar) so as to get to the conclusion as fast as possible. you shouldn't be taking a slash when in a real trade unless it is a free trade anyway.

edit : it is a bit like saying "i only want to run vhands when it is night time because i only intend to trade at night".

You could also reduce proportionally the equivalent times you will be off the computer (for example, times of the day you will be trading, normal time/hour of pauses, etc.) and calculate accordingly. For example, if you usually are off the computer for half an hour, that would be about a minute at full speed. Set a timer, and continue. Then when chart time enters your normal sleep hours, take a 15 minute-break equivalent to 8 hours sleep. And so on.

At 32 speed, one day is roughly one hour including eventual pauses.
You can start for example at 16 to get accustomed to the speed, and after practicing a while you will be able to adapt and little by little get to full speed, and act accordingly. BTW this practice is quite good if you intend to be a scalper. In any case, watching the price action at full speed will develop a greater perception for details and patterns, at first it's like crazy but if you go by steps you will gain much experience as you'll be able to see much more in a few hours of work, will also gain mental speed (which is good for decision making and acting on trades) and of course, much free time later on

As soon as you get accustomed to the routine: full speed - pause - place/modify trade - run, you'll see it was a good acquisition indeed.
Try it and you won't be disappointed. It doesn't take so long to get the swing of the full speed thing... (and remember: time is money, hehe).

awesome simulator.
only improvements would be the ability to skip date and move that box a little more on the right.

Would someone be king enough to post the component parts of the original zip file at the start of this thread. i.e. all the vhands files. For some reason when I try to download the zip it arrives on my computer as a php attachment?

I appreciate your help.
Ted

I am learning a new system and I have around 2 years of trading experience in it over the each of the past two weekends. It has made my life better. My trading has become better and I recognize entries a lot quicker now.

I trained like this when I was a top notch athlete and was successful, amazing how it works in other parts of my life!

Thanks for sharing!!!!!

Good day and Happy Pips!

Simple

I started out on the LFH trading simulator, but this one is much better after learning how to use it.

Try left-clicking on the link instead to download... right click and save gets indeed a php file and not the attachment.

O.K. I didnt think I was that computer illiterate...

Thanks Doblece, got it.

ive read the whole thread. Very few posts about how vhands is working and helping, just not working and how to fix it. I have to wonder is it worth the aggravation? These computer things can go on forever

for those that vhands works perfectly and they find benefit in using it what is there for them to say?

the way i see it is if after this thread someone can not figure out how to get it working (which is as simple as following the instructions word for word) then they need to go have a cold shower and lay down for a bit.

LoL.. No disrespect daveWR.. but as a professional trader of 5 years.. I have to say I agree completely with Nubcake. Ive used VH since Andrey originally published in Russian in 06. Better IMHO that 90% of the expensive professional and dedicated testers on the market. Though Ive no need to use the variations that have been developed here, the work done by Blueruby and the guys has been outstanding. Its the nature of a thread and project like this that the problems are the issues discussed. If it working for me Im hardly likely to reengage in the discussion? Happily here, purile noncontributions like "Wow! Thanks for a great system.." .."Cool" and "you Rock!" posts are consigned to PMs of appreciation to the contributers, rather than blocking and gumming up the whole thread.

I do confess, however ..I do have a wishlist ..LoL

Its this.

I can literally engage any instrument from an MT4 feed and using minimal indicators, and priceaction, (in Vhandtrade) double my equity in a couple of virtual weeks.. without over-leverage.. Im sure lots of you out there can. Its not rocket science.
Ill not pretend I can do this in my actual trading business.LoL. I wish.

I was so intrigued by this difference between "the flow" and clarity, I get using the speededup action in the vHands simulator, and the everyday reality of the trading day (where each hour is 60 long minutes..), that I ran it by some research guys in the psychology dept of my old university, to check it out.
Im not at liberty to discuss their work, but the main actionable proposal that emerged from that exercise, was their identification of the effect of the time compression of priceaction in the immediatly preeceeding period ..psycologically, on the traders ability to "feel" the pace and mood of market, and see patterns as they emerge.
In simple terms.. they suggested that I use vHandsTrade to fast forward from start week or two or three days back and run the speeded-up simulation of that priceaction right into the immediate present. ie hour/minute.

And theres the rub..LoL. I CANT. Because, most of my trading is done on 1h and lower TFs, and MT4 tester doesnt allow that. I can run up to the previous EoD. But not to the current hour or minute bar in the current day.

Because of the clunkyness of the MT4 platform I doubt is possible.

Now if someone can produce a "work-around" for THAT.. I wont be able to refrain from posting "WOW.. Cool.." posts..all over the thread!! LoL

ed

heh, good to see i'm not alone.

i think the only reasonable work-around is to write a program to simulate trading, separate to mt4. that way you can read the data right up to the latest bar since mt4 only runs by dates as you mentioned.

that, or just trade up to the previous day and then just rip back the current days chart, f12 it, and take trades in your head

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Would someone be king enough to post the component parts of the original zip file at the start of this thread. i.e. all the vhands files. For some reason when I try to download the zip it arrives on my computer as a php attachment?

I appreciate your help.
Ted

Try left-clicking on the link instead to download... right click and save gets indeed a php file and not the attachment.



I get this message as well. Left clicking doesn't download, it only lets me save the file. I still get the php message when I try to open. I also tried to search for the interbank fx file and it isn't there either. Guess I have to download the other file first. Any help is appreciated.
KC

Hi everyone, I guess everyone has had this problem with vhands- none of the bar timers or clocks that I have tried seems to work with vhands. Does anyone have one that works, or a workaround for a current timer please???

Regards, Chris

any one can teach how to replay difference tf on one pair in one time, like m1 m15 and h4
please if have picures to teach is my most appriciated

the answer to the 2 previous posts are both... no.

you can't have a working clock as all clock indi's are designed, and meant, for live data only. ticks within each bar are somewhat randomly generated, so there is no function to then base some type of time left for a bar etc. if you need to know the actual time of the bars as a whole then you simply look to the bottom of your chart where it says it.

no you can't have different timeframes running for vhands simultaneously. again, mt4 simulation environment (and i think ea environment as well) is designed for one chart only, therefore one timeframe only. you require a separate indi running on your backtest that is designed to re-represent the data on the current chart in whichever timeframe you wish... i.e. always run in m1 and have an indi recalc it in a sub window for m5 or m15 or m2.6453 etc