J16 questions | Forex Factory

Options

Permalinks
Print Thread

Similar Threads

AtClarkson Trading J16 305 replies

J16 thread. 2 replies

J16 pinbar discussion 7 replies

J16 Type Trades 60 replies

Attachments: J16 questions
Exit Attachments

J16 questions

  • #1
  • First Post: Dec 19, 2009 10:09pm Dec 19, 2009 10:09pm
whats this j16 joining im hearing about?
  • #2
  • Dec 19, 2009 10:26pm Dec 19, 2009 10:26pm
It's one of the best threads in the commercial section of the site.
Don't wish it were easier, wish you were better. ~ Jim Rohn
  • #3
  • Dec 20, 2009 11:33am Dec 20, 2009 11:33am
Quoting mattchu96
whats this j16 joining im hearing about?
James16, if taken seriously as said in the first post of the thread, will take you from nothing to trading for a living. It takes time (possibly years), although the man Benji's making it look like nothing after a short amount of time, to learn to implement yourself into the method correctly. And yeah, I said that right. The method isn't the hard part, it's implementing yourself correctly that is. That's where a lot of people give up.
I dream, therefore I become.
  • #4
  • Dec 20, 2009 12:12pm Dec 20, 2009 12:12pm
where can i find this thread?
  • #5
  • Dec 20, 2009 12:37pm Dec 20, 2009 12:37pm
Quoting mattchu96
where can i find this thread?
Here ya go: http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=2331
  • #6
  • Sep 18, 2010 10:42am Sep 18, 2010 10:42am
James16 is being investigated for scamming, the net is closing...

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=254552
  • #7
  • Sep 18, 2010 10:58am Sep 18, 2010 10:58am
Quoting PA Trader
James16 is being investigated for scamming, the net is closing...

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=254552
Who is conducting the investigation? What have they found?
  • #8
  • Sep 18, 2010 11:14am Sep 18, 2010 11:14am
Quoting PA Trader
James16 is being investigated for scamming, the net is closing...

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=254552
http://xspblog.com/wp-content/upload...6/owl_orly.jpg
It's not about how much you make, it's about how much you don't lose.
  • #9
  • Sep 18, 2010 11:43am Sep 18, 2010 11:43am
Quoting PA Trader
James16 is being investigated for scamming, the net is closing...

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=254552

ohh, yah, because THAT guy is credible!
  • #10
  • Sep 18, 2010 2:16pm Sep 18, 2010 2:16pm
Anyone is more credible than someone who makes his living scamming off people with desperate dreams who want to change their lives. I ask for nothing, and I do the honourable thing, I expose cheats, Snakes, and Sharks. I know you are a Dog from James16 site, so go and run along, this bottle is heavy of James'.
Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: snake-oil.jpg Size: 542 KB
  • #11
  • Sep 18, 2010 2:41pm Sep 18, 2010 2:41pm
  •  Czech
  • | Joined Feb 2010 | Status: You Don't Know What You Don't Know | 111 Posts
Quoting PA Trader
Anyone is more credible than someone who makes his living scamming off people with desperate dreams who want to change their lives. I ask for nothing, and I do the honourable thing, I expose cheats, Snakes, and Sharks. I know you are a Dog from James16 site, so go and run along, this bottle is heavy of James'.
What a joke you are. You think you're some kind of white knight. If your so honorable why don't you go help some people that actually need helping. I find it curious that you chose to dedicate half your posts here at FF (and god knows how much of your time) to help perceived greedy, delusional traders instead of say, your nearest homeless population. Perhaps you have a penchant for forex scams, why do you focus so much on J16 when there are 100's of other scams, seminars, paid systems, and funds that you could be taking down.

Really can't believe you're standing behind someone who's demanding to verify a tax audit. Why do you feel that he owes you anything? Is someone forcing you to pay for his forum and use his system? Maybe we should talk about that? The OP in the thread you linked has got to be the most sensationalist crap i've read outside the tabloids.

What is this "net" you keep talking about?
  • #12
  • Sep 18, 2010 3:10pm Sep 18, 2010 3:10pm
Quoting Czech
Really can't believe you're standing behind someone who's demanding to verify a tax audit.
Every business that I've ever owned submitted tax returns, and complied with regulatory authoraties. I dont see why someone operating a forex training business shouldnt be subjected to the same scrutiny.

Up until a couple of weeks ago it was very difficult to undertake due dilligence on the people behind this business as there was zero transparancy. Now there's a lot more information known. Potential students, current students, ex students and competitors will all have an interest in establishing the truth.

If J16 are what they claim to be, there's no problem is there ?

Given the history of fraudulent activity promoted here at FF it just makes sense for people to be sceptical of any claims. Successful traders tend to ask questions, they dont stick their heads in the sand and accept the status quo. There's enough rational people posting here questioning the validity of the methods, and enough red flags to cause anyone to ask questions.

Now why would you discourage anyone from undertaking due dilligence ?
  • #13
  • Sep 18, 2010 3:24pm Sep 18, 2010 3:24pm
  •  Czech
  • | Joined Feb 2010 | Status: You Don't Know What You Don't Know | 111 Posts
Quoting Razzle
Every business that I've ever owned submitted tax returns, and complied with regulatory authoraties. I dont see why someone operating a forex training business shouldnt be subjected to the same scrutiny.
FF is not a regulatory authority as far as i know.
Quote
Up until a couple of weeks ago it was very difficult to undertake due dilligence on the people behind this business as there was zero transparancy. Now there's a lot more information known. Potential students, current students, ex students and competitors will all have an interest in establishing the truth.
I guess i don't follow current affairs, could you explain that first part further?
Quote
If J16 are what they claim to be, there's no problem is there ?
At what point will it be resolved? Say he provides documents, who's to say they aren't forged, how hard is it to photoshop something? I guess we would have to send a FF Forum representative to meet with his accountant in person to notarize a statement. Or perhaps the representative we sent was actually a J16 spy! Perhaps his accountant is a fraud. There will always be reasonable doubt.

Quote
Given the history of fraudulent activity promoted here at FF it just makes sense for people to be sceptical of any claims.
Read the OP in the thread linked, i think its gone a little beyond skepticism.
Quote
Successful traders tend to ask questions, they dont stick their heads in the sand and accept the status quo. There's enough rational people posting here questioning the validity of the methods, and enough red flags to cause anyone to ask questions.
I think successful traders tend to draw their own conclusions and act accordingly. (But I'm not a successful trader so i don't really want to speak on their behalf)
Quote
Now why would you discourage anyone from undertaking due dilligence ?
I think that if you have any doubts about J16 or any other system you obviously should not pay money or follow it. I think that the white knights could put their efforts to better use doing virtually anything other than jacking each others noble chains. (i'm not talking about you razzle, I'm talking about the other thread)
  • #14
  • Last Post: Sep 18, 2010 10:43pm Sep 18, 2010 10:43pm
Quoting Czech
What a joke you are. You think you're some kind of white knight. If your so honorable why don't you go help some people that actually need helping. I find it curious that you chose to dedicate half your posts here at FF (and god knows how much of your time) to help perceived greedy, delusional traders instead of say, your nearest homeless population. Perhaps you have a penchant for forex scams, why do you focus so much on J16 when there are 100's of other scams, seminars, paid systems, and funds that you could be taking down.

Really can't...
Right on Czech.....the sooner this lunatic (PA Trader) gets banned the better
0 traders viewing now