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  • #4,241
  • Dec 3, 2009 4:56pm Dec 3, 2009 4:56pm
that right. your long would have been profitable as was my short.

Quoting tfflyer
No problem, we look different to market.
Some time You will win, some time not.

Best,
Tom
Its all in the mind.
  • #4,242
  • Dec 3, 2009 7:16pm Dec 3, 2009 7:16pm
Notice the huge volume spike on H4. This is unlikely to be buyers. Looking to short UJ.
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Its all in the mind.
  • #4,243
  • Dec 3, 2009 10:13pm Dec 3, 2009 10:13pm
Great thread. I studied VSA several months ago and back to it now thanks to getting inspired again by reading some Malcolmb posts.

I attached a chart of the YM 5min and would like some comments about VSA entries on the down move. I know it was a breakout and retest but I am interested in what the VSA was telling me there. I was looking for an entry signal but was unsure. Obvious distribution in hindsight. I missed the up move off of stopping volume this morning.. also marked.

I am learning, any comments are welcome. THankk you.
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  • #4,244
  • Dec 4, 2009 3:58am Dec 4, 2009 3:58am
Hi everyone !

Is it possible to say in short text what i didnt saw to not to take this trade ?
Perhaps better answer we will get from expierence traders.


EDIT : Sorry at first attached wrong picture

EDIT 2 : Yesterday i tough - THIS VSA is not working HA HA HAAA , i was angry to VSA ( or better would say - to my expierence )
Thanks !


Best,
Tom
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  • #4,245
  • Edited 6:10am Dec 4, 2009 5:50am | Edited 6:10am
First trade today

Sl .. or TP...
But unfortunataly i dont know yet where is my TP

EDIT : I see a lot of weakness.. But who knows..

EDIT 2 : For TP i could use previus high volume bar zones . ~ 1.6620 - 1.6600

EDIT 3: Added second picture - Retail IBFX showing effort ( volume ) on up bar - But how it goes, that in up trend on 10 minutes with such effort it cant go up more.. Effort versus result - effort volume - versus - spread.
Also, on futures i see demand is much smaller. We will see...

EDIT 4: MY SL got hit. Sh***T lol

B,
Tom
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  • #4,246
  • Dec 4, 2009 6:04am Dec 4, 2009 6:04am
Quoting tfflyer
First trade today

Sl .. or TP...
But unfortunataly i dont know yet where is my TP

EDIT : I see a lot of weakness.. But who knows..

EDIT 2 : For TP i could use previus high volume bar zones . ~ 1.6620 - 1.6600

B,
Tom
I wonder what do u mean by "I see alot of weakness"

Sonic
  • #4,247
  • Dec 4, 2009 6:20am Dec 4, 2009 6:20am
Quoting tfflyer
Hi everyone !

Is it possible to say in short text what i didnt saw to not to take this trade ?
Perhaps better answer we will get from expierence traders.


EDIT : Sorry at first attached wrong picture

EDIT 2 : Yesterday i tough - THIS VSA is not working HA HA HAAA , i was angry to VSA ( or better would say - to my expierence )
Thanks !


Best,
Tom
Tom,

In short:
1. trend is still down
2. not enough demand yet. you have to learn how to count amount of demand vs supply
3. lack of rules for entries, lack of plan, this is the main thing, imho.

not sure if this helps, but it is short
  • #4,248
  • Edited 6:40am Dec 4, 2009 6:23am | Edited 6:40am
Hi Den,
yes it helps to me.
It reminds me how much i need to learn..

Thanks

Best,
Tom

Quoting denbur
Tom,

In short:
1. trend is still down
2. not enough demand yet. you have to learn how to count amount of demand vs supply
3. lack of rules for entries, lack of plan, this is the main thing, imho.

not sure if this helps, but it is short
  • #4,249
  • Dec 4, 2009 6:25am Dec 4, 2009 6:25am
Better i will not answer - as i am too much wrong in my entries lately

Best,
Tom

Quoting sonicdeejay
I wonder what do u mean by "I see alot of weakness"

Sonic
  • #4,250
  • Dec 4, 2009 11:41am Dec 4, 2009 11:41am
VSA is not the holy grail, it is an edge...
even IF everything is in the right spot, it might fail.

on your screenshot:

-market trending down (!!!!)
-there is no bullish followthrough to the high volume you saw, so it was just downside momentum
-the volume you saw is not that much and there is more to do to stop a market in bearmode
-downwaves/pushes still bigger and only tiny upwaves

btw. the mistakes you've made have nothing to do with vsa in particular, just regular market mechanics and rules you have ignored


alltogether the entry was way too early...potential right setup but i nthe wrong place with the wrong story behind.


Quoting tfflyer
Hi everyone !

Is it possible to say in short text what i didnt saw to not to take this trade ?
Perhaps better answer we will get from expierence traders.


EDIT : Sorry at first attached wrong picture

EDIT 2 : Yesterday i tough - THIS VSA is not working HA HA HAAA , i was angry to VSA ( or better would say - to my expierence )
Thanks !


Best,
Tom
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  • #4,251
  • Dec 4, 2009 11:52am Dec 4, 2009 11:52am
Quoting 5abi
Notice the huge volume spike on H4. This is unlikely to be buyers. Looking to short UJ.
it can. we are at the previous selloff area. traders which reshort here or guys which have ben underwater go flat...you can never- without seeing the reaction- say if it is buying or not. absorbtion and going higher also is a possiblity. it is NOT -ah high vol, i enter the countertrade-

you can, but you go broke for sure!
  • #4,252
  • Dec 4, 2009 2:10pm Dec 4, 2009 2:10pm
Thank You Dr.g for Your comments.

As i said already..Much to learn to me yet...

Best,
Tom


Quoting Dr.Geppynius
VSA is not the holy grail, it is an edge...
even IF everything is in the right spot, it might fail.

on your screenshot:

-market trending down (!!!!)
-there is no bullish followthrough to the high volume you saw, so it was just downside momentum
-the volume you saw is not that much and there is more to do to stop a market in bearmode
-downwaves/pushes still bigger and only tiny upwaves

btw. the mistakes you've made have nothing to do with vsa in particular, just regular market mechanics and rules you have ignored


alltogether the entry was...
  • #4,253
  • Dec 4, 2009 6:03pm Dec 4, 2009 6:03pm
u were pretty right, glad i did not take this short

Quoting Dr.Geppynius
it can. we are at the previous selloff area. traders which reshort here or guys which have ben underwater go flat...you can never- without seeing the reaction- say if it is buying or not. absorbtion and going higher also is a possiblity. it is NOT -ah high vol, i enter the countertrade-

you can, but you go broke for sure!
Its all in the mind.
  • #4,254
  • Dec 5, 2009 11:55am Dec 5, 2009 11:55am
Is this good data feed ?


http://www.equis.com/products/realti...nter/?overview

Thanks.


Best,
Tom
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  • #4,255
  • Dec 5, 2009 3:10pm Dec 5, 2009 3:10pm
Hello everyone.

I would be interested to hear those who are already profitable with VSA method, how much time it tooked for You to be profitable with it ?
And why VSA and not some other method... How You saw that this is what You need.

Just weekend stories

Thank You.

Best,
Tom
  • #4,256
  • Dec 5, 2009 7:30pm Dec 5, 2009 7:30pm
Quoting tfflyer
Is this good data feed ?


http://www.equis.com/products/realti...nter/?overview

Thanks.


Best,
Tom
Hi Tom. Just a bit of a warning/reminder. MetaStock FX does NOT support fx volume data. Be sure you are getting MetaStock Pro.

As for the data feed, I don't have any information on it. I am looking into MetaStock Pro with Esignal myself.
Without VSA, you're playing checkers while the Smart Money plays chess.
  • #4,257
  • Dec 5, 2009 7:53pm Dec 5, 2009 7:53pm
HiddenGap,
thank You for comments.
I was not sure is it good deal or not.. So i know now that its not for me.

Thank You

Best,
Tom


Quoting HiddenGap
Hi Tom. Just a bit of a warning/reminder. MetaStock FX does NOT support fx volume data. Be sure you are getting MetaStock Pro.

As for the data feed, I don't have any information on it. I am looking into MetaStock Pro with Esignal myself.
  • #4,258
  • Dec 6, 2009 6:22am Dec 6, 2009 6:22am
Quoting tfflyer
HiddenGap,
thank You for comments.
I was not sure is it good deal or not.. So i know now that its not for me.

Thank You

Best,
Tom
i have seen you also use ninjatrader.

in case you have the zenfie datafeed which is said to be the industries' best in terms of realtime intraday futures data, you can use the currencyfutures e.g. 6B, 6E etc. for generating signals and then trade the underlying currencypair in the spotmarket. if you tend to trade pairs like GBPJPY u cannot do this of course, since the currencyfutures only meausre against the USD.

i only trade futures and no fx, since i really favor the fact of the central exchanges.

in terms of other feeds besides esignal, CQG IC has become my absolute favourite, but nets about 600usd/month in the base version. also offering every possible data which you can add to the subscription.
  • #4,259
  • Dec 6, 2009 6:24am Dec 6, 2009 6:24am
Quoting tfflyer
Is this good data feed ?


http://www.equis.com/products/realti...nter/?overview

Thanks.


Best,
Tom

equis is the retail version- data of reuters.

i do not like metastock either, but thats off topic
  • #4,260
  • Dec 6, 2009 6:49am Dec 6, 2009 6:49am
Thanks for comments DR.G.

Best,
Tom

Quoting Dr.Geppynius
i have seen you also use ninjatrader.

in case you have the zenfie datafeed which is said to be the industries' best in terms of realtime intraday futures data, you can use the...
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