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  • #81
  • Nov 20, 2009 9:23am Nov 20, 2009 9:23am
Quoting onu
1)try to controll your inapropriate tone

2)explain how can a NFA member offer hedges? Ever heard about NFA doesnt allow hedges anymore?
you're past help.

believe whatever you want....... I don't give a ......................
  • #82
  • Nov 20, 2009 9:36am Nov 20, 2009 9:36am
  •  onu
  • | Joined Feb 2006 | Status: superior senior member | 746 Posts
Quoting >Apocalypto<
you're past help.

believe whatever you want....... I don't give a ......................
great when the wisdom ends, get rude ......

Successful traders are a bit more relaxed than u

Good night, down under!
  • #83
  • Nov 20, 2009 9:38am Nov 20, 2009 9:38am
ATC is NOT a Broker!! (They are NEVER a counterparty to trades) Same rules don't apply to them. - Also they could be facilitating trades with FXCM-UK and diff rules apply. The simple explanation I've heard is the former though. They dont hold the clients money, never are counterparty, diff rules.
  • #84
  • Nov 20, 2009 9:46am Nov 20, 2009 9:46am
Quoting Aja
I running the CFX demo and just notices that Nano lots got activated Today so that means they've switched to Citi.
They were quite excited about the ability to trade small trade sizes through their new liquidity provider. It didn't matter to me since I don't trade such sizes.

Comparing the demo price feed with the live feed side by side, The demo price feed slightly lags the live feed. It is most obvious when there's a color change in the bid or ask - the live feed color changes first then the demo follows. i.e. it is slow enough to notice with the human eye. When I compared JadeFX's demo feed with live feed, I couldn't see any difference.

How long does withdrawal take to a non US bank account? It took a whole week to get the cash into there, so I hope withdrawal isn't that slow.
  • #85
  • Nov 20, 2009 9:51am Nov 20, 2009 9:51am
Quoting Hyper
They were quite excited about the ability to trade small trade sizes through their new liquidity provider. It didn't matter to me since I don't trade such sizes.

Comparing the demo price feed with the live feed side by side, The demo price feed slightly lags the live feed. It is most obvious when there's a color change in the bid or ask - the live feed color changes first then the demo follows. i.e. it is slow enough to notice with the human eye.

How long does withdrawal take to a non US bank account?
I dont trade 0.01's but I do use 0.10, 0.11, 0.12, etc... Now the lotsize can scale better with my account balance instead of 0.10, 0.20., 0.30... I use a compounding formula to calculate the lotize and 0.10 step sizes always had me using sizes too small for too long or sizes too large because 0.14 got rounded down to 0.10 and 0.15 got rounded up to 0.20. - I hope the spreads are better.
  • #86
  • Nov 20, 2009 9:51am Nov 20, 2009 9:51am
  •  onu
  • | Joined Feb 2006 | Status: superior senior member | 746 Posts
Quoting Aja
ATC is NOT a Broker!! (They are NEVER a counterparty to trades) Same rules don't apply to them. - Also they could be facilitating trades with FXCM-UK and diff rules apply. The simple explanation I've heard is the former though. They dont hold the clients money, never are counterparty, diff rules.
Thx Aja. Did ATC tell u that?
  • #87
  • Nov 20, 2009 9:58am Nov 20, 2009 9:58am
Quoting onu
Thx Aja. Did ATC tell u that?
Not directly. I think I read it somewhere when I was doing my Hedging broker search. (Just like I read the day-hedging info about PFG and dismissed them) - I reviewed so many brokers info at the time all I remember now is the results but I'm positive I saw that stated as the reason they can still hedge.
  • #88
  • Nov 20, 2009 9:58am Nov 20, 2009 9:58am
Quoting onu
great when the wisdom ends, get rude ......

Successful traders are a bit more relaxed than u

Good night, down under!
ok Muppet,

Another trader and myself have told you you can hedge and that I hedged tonight. the other member hedges on a regulator basis. YOU made assumptions about their website being false.

I posted the NFA regulation facts and you still argue with me. why don't you go to the NFA site your self and look at it.

Why don't you call ATC and ask them.

get off your ass and be proactive, stop assuming and believing everything you read without doing any homework or due diligence.

I am rude to Muppet's as that's the only way they learn, get used to it I anit going to change my attitude to you if you keep posting absolute dribble.

my ability to trade successfully or not has no relation to the point here. You have made wild fact less assumptions and these types of posts damage this forum in my opinion, I will continue to pull you or any other poster up when I come across it.

if I am wrong I will happily accept it when i see the facts that show I am mistaken.

I also remenber you and another poster claiming 0 and negative spreads were false and didn't exist, well you were both wrong on that, remember?

I can re post that screen shot as well, it happens to be of ATC Brokers spread on the eur/usd.
  • #89
  • Nov 20, 2009 10:05am Nov 20, 2009 10:05am
Quoting >Apocalypto<
ok Muppet
Apocalypto!! - You're killin me with the muppet!! - I cant stop laughing. All I can see is Elmo, Kermit and Bert. - How the Hell did you start callin' people that!?
  • #90
  • Edited 10:20am Nov 20, 2009 10:06am | Edited 10:20am
Quoting Aja
Not directly. I think I read it somewhere when I was doing my Hedging broker search. (Just like I read the day-hedging info about PFG and dismissed them) - I reviewed so many brokers info at the time all I remember now is the results but I'm positive I saw that stated as the reason they can still hedge.
thank you we now have an answer.

Quote
ATC is NOT a Broker!! (They are NEVER a counterparty to trades) Same rules don't apply to them. - Also they could be facilitating trades with FXCM-UK and diff rules apply. The simple explanation I've heard is the former though. They dont hold the clients money, never are counterparty, diff rules.
Aja,

They actually are a futures broker, FX is the new product....

ONU

before you post dribble like you have do some home work and these types of run-ins wouldn't occur for u.
  • #91
  • Nov 20, 2009 10:09am Nov 20, 2009 10:09am
Quoting Aja
Apocalypto!! - You're killin me with the muppet!! - I cant stop laughing. All I can see is Elmo, Kermit and Bert. - How the Hell did you start callin' people that!?
I picked it up at my last employer...... the guys there used to throw it around a fair bit!
  • #92
  • Nov 20, 2009 10:23am Nov 20, 2009 10:23am
  •  onu
  • | Joined Feb 2006 | Status: superior senior member | 746 Posts
Quoting Aja
Not directly. I think I read it somewhere when I was doing my Hedging broker search. (Just like I read the day-hedging info about PFG and dismissed them) - I reviewed so many brokers info at the time all I remember now is the results but I'm positive I saw that stated as the reason they can still hedge.
thx for the info Aja. I knew that hedges work on their demo platform I m using with my EAs, but wasn't sure if it works also on the live account. I have to dig deeper how a NFA member can do it against all new NFA rules...

I think this is the way how conversation between civilized human beings goes.

Do we need a self proclaimed apocalyptic forum cop sticking his nose in other peoples posts?

Sure not!

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http://www.myfxbook.com/members/pc8multifx
  • #93
  • Nov 20, 2009 10:29am Nov 20, 2009 10:29am
Quoting onu

Do we need a self proclaimed apocalyptic forum cop sticking his nose in other peoples posts?

Sure not!
i have an account with them so I think that justified me making a post about them...........


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http://www.myfxbook.com/members/pc8multifx[/quote]
  • #94
  • Edited 10:55am Nov 20, 2009 10:42am | Edited 10:55am
I've just checked my live account MetaTrader mailbox and they say on 2009.11.20 14:15 that there's a new demo server:

We have added a new demo server, DEMO 3, as the old servers were becoming overloaded and dropping out every now and then.


In order to access the new demo server then you will need to download and install the latest platform from this link:


The Collective FX Demo


It should install over the top of your existing installation, but ensure that you backup anything that you a fearful of losing.


When you install the demo platform it should automatically create you a user name and password. If for some reason that failed then you can easily create yourself a demo account. Simply load the platform then go to the file menu and select 'Open an Account'. From there complete all the relevant details. If you are given the choice of connecting to our LIVE server or our DEMO server then please ensure you choose the DEMO 3 server.


Please don't reply to this message with support questions as I don't monitor this regularly, email instead.


Gary - [email protected]


I've just tried it though and I don't see any difference.
  • #95
  • Nov 20, 2009 11:39am Nov 20, 2009 11:39am
On CFX site:

"Spreads: All pricing is unbeatable and is passed on to you at our cost. EURUSD spreads are from 0-0.5 pips, and USDJPY spreads are from 0-0.6 pips during normal market conditions."

I tried the demo and compared with interbank spreads.

CFX spreads are too high and don't match with their claims.

If that are the best spreads from Citi they should look for a better LP.
  • #96
  • Jan 2, 2010 9:32am Jan 2, 2010 9:32am
Hi Mr. Forex,

in a previous post you told you checked TheCollectiveFX spreads with interbank. Which interbank feed do you use? Currenex? Is 3 months I'm looking around for a broker to replace my current one (ATC + FXCM). Do you have sudgestions? I don't' like TheCollectiveFX, no physical address, no tel number on website, just 1 liquidity provider and for me is not really good.

Thank You!
  • #97
  • Jan 4, 2010 12:28am Jan 4, 2010 12:28am
Quoting forexboom
...In 3 months I'm looking around for a broker to replace my current one (ATC + FXCM). Do you have sudgestions? I don't' like TheCollectiveFX...
Whats NOT to like about ATC? Why would you switch from a true ECN? The only other choice is MBTrading but ATC has better spreads and is waaaay cheaper plus you can hedge and LIFO without restriction!! (MB has both sided negative swaps, wider spreads, no hedging, FIFO, etc.) - Nobody else with MT4 even comes close. I'm looking for a backup and cant find one!! (Even though I'm demoing Dukascopy MT4 as a possible backup but they have their issues too. Mainly spread in only 0.5 increments - 0.5, 1.0, 1.5, HUH!!?)
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  • #98
  • Jan 5, 2010 4:14pm Jan 5, 2010 4:14pm
I compare it with http://www.ctnsystems.com

They are connected to some good liquidity providers http://www.ctnsystems.com/pricegw.html
  • #99
  • Jan 6, 2010 4:02am Jan 6, 2010 4:02am
Quoting onu
2)explain how can a NFA member offer hedges? Ever heard about NFA doesnt allow hedges anymore?
Because ATC is registered as an Introducing Broker, not as a FCM/FDM, while NFA's anti-hedge rule is towarding FCM/FDM. And FYI, ATC is an IB for FXCM.

regards,
zkf
  • #100
  • Jan 6, 2010 3:10pm Jan 6, 2010 3:10pm
  •  onu
  • | Joined Feb 2006 | Status: superior senior member | 746 Posts
Quoting Zkf
Because ATC is registered as an Introducing Broker, not as a FCM/FDM, while NFA's anti-hedge rule is towarding FCM/FDM. And FYI, ATC is an IB for FXCM.

regards,
zkf
thx for the info. OK, what does this mean in the end for the NFA affected brokers (and traders)? As long they get new customers through their IBs they could work around the dump NFA rules? Or do i miss something?
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