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  • #3,981
  • Nov 10, 2009 3:24am Nov 10, 2009 3:24am
Quoting taomql4
Okay fcbarca, Lets do this real quick- could you come in here and give
us your live intraday signals.

So we can all follow, that way life becomes easier for all of us.

can you do that..? starting right Now..........
He's not prepared to put his cock on the block!

I have made hundreds of trade calls on FF, not to gain kudos but to stimulate open discussion and get a second opinion. It pays to have an open mind we learn a lot more that way.
  • #3,982
  • Nov 10, 2009 3:45am Nov 10, 2009 3:45am
Cable Hourly Chart
So far the uptrend remains intact - but IMO we need to see price back above the 6700 level to confirm this.......the green TL is currently ~6600 so that's 2 nice levels to work off - LOL and price is at 6650 as I type, having held at the S1 level of 6634

Note that the volume in that fall was only ~2000, but then it was in the Asian Session.....BUT I always take note of Ultra Wide Range candles and at ~150 pips this was just that.....http://cdn.forexfactory.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
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Trading Levels with WRBs
  • #3,983
  • Nov 10, 2009 3:47am Nov 10, 2009 3:47am
My last post for this morning......notice how the volume is building with the blue showing the London traders now pushing the high volume pivot down to the 6649 level......I'm now long off the HL a few moments ago as the 650 area plus 30 ema confluence held AND the 1 min MAs have now turned green.....
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  • #3,984
  • Nov 10, 2009 3:52am Nov 10, 2009 3:52am
Quoting RedCabbage
He's not prepared to put his cock on the block!

I have made hundreds of trade calls on FF, not to gain kudos but to stimulate open discussion and get a second opinion. It pays to have an open mind we learn a lot more that way.
LOL - I'm not certain that I would like my tackle "on the block" either......long mentioned earlier now partially closed on push up towards 6700 resistance area....
Trading Levels with WRBs
  • #3,985
  • Nov 10, 2009 5:03am Nov 10, 2009 5:03am
Quoting denverdude
Hi,

I'm attaching an image of A/$ BUY trade that I took based on "my understanding" of VSA that I've gained so far

I think I got the stopping volume/reverse upthrust part fine, but I can see my entry is early.

I'd appreciate if VSA experts can point out the right "test of supply" candle and the appropriate entry.

Thanks.
Hi Denverdude,

I`am looking at your chart but, cant find why did you enter.
Can you explain your entry.?
  • #3,986
  • Nov 10, 2009 10:01am Nov 10, 2009 10:01am
Good morning Folks- just rolled out of bed, and look who is
confused today..lol..

this might turned out to be nothing but a scalp trade--

daily's won't give way!!!!! and i think we have a low vol test
on EU, and lets face it, fundamentally, who the F*** is buying
the dollar nowadays
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  • #3,987
  • Nov 10, 2009 12:35pm Nov 10, 2009 12:35pm
hi, quick question: do you think it really matters which current time do you use? i'm asking this because if you set the current time as standard time for your area the candles will be different between different time frames reported at GMT or NY time...
"Imagination is more important than knowledge" Einstein
  • #3,988
  • Nov 10, 2009 12:47pm Nov 10, 2009 12:47pm
Quoting zoli
Curious indeed. It would be more to everyones benefit if you could contribute with help and/or insight to this thread. As to one of the people you were questioning, I learned a lot from his charts no matter regardless amount of pips. He granted that out of politeness.

All right sometimes one can read nice pips gained here and there. Pips do not always matter actually, 100 pips seem to be little scalp if traded on daily TF. There is a guy out there reporting an average of 2-500 pips on a winning trade. So what? He is risking 2-300 on each trade...
no offence taken sir.

To be honest, i guess i was just a little bitter over how much time i wasted learning about volume, just because 1 guy wrote that he made 2k into 6 figure in a year, using vsa. So if he can turn 2k to a 6 figure, then he will turn 6 figure into a mil, but the year is passing by and he is not!

People just need to be honest.

Even fxspain can make good calls, it can only go up or down.

If using vsa aint making you at least 20% a month risking 2% of your account, then maybe it is not the way to.

You dont need to read the same stuff 10 times to understand it.

you probably already know how to be profitable, but people think, they only have to learn this or this now to be profitable.
  • #3,989
  • Nov 10, 2009 1:06pm Nov 10, 2009 1:06pm
Quoting fcbarca
no offence taken sir.

To be honest, i guess i was just a little bitter over how much time i wasted learning about volume, just because 1 guy wrote that he made 2k into 6 figure in a year, using vsa. So if he can turn 2k to a 6 figure, then he will turn 6 figure into a mil, but the year is passing by and he is not!

People just need to be honest.

Even fxspain can make good calls, it can only go up or down.

If using vsa aint making you at least 20% a month risking 2% of your account, then maybe it is not the way to.

You dont need to...
20% a month ....greedy aren't we ?

one reason I have not made over 1 mill is that I took out alot of equity out of account and put into gold bars .. safe and sound in a bank

there is going to be a currency crisis , making the recent financial crisis look like nothing ..and the only thing of any value will be gold and silver. Paper money will become worthless.

Also you will not turn 2 k to 6 figures one year ... run the spread sheet .. make 30 pip per day 1.5 % risk it takes about 23 months to get into 6 figure area. It is doable , as you said trading is SIMPLE. lol

learning volume is not a waste of time. If you want to be good in this game and make money then using vsa , in my opinion , and good money management is the only way to go

do you honestly think this is not an easy 120 pip trade and gj 150 pip trade on the shake out in Asia ? .. and no i am not saying this after the fact . I CLEARLY posted that it was shake out (as we vsa traders know what that is ) in the gu and gbpjpy thread while others were calling kaboom and 147 gj , 1,6500- gu i was going long . i mentioned going long 149.50 and then again posted 149 as buyers , clearly showing the buying before theu p move happened....go and check all posting for yourself

also with seeing the shake out in gu and gj inb asia ... does this make me think that ES , gu and gy will not break out later this week to new highs ? of course it does ... shake outs are ONLY designed for that.

maybe your results are not what you want with VSA.....but do not give up on it

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  • #3,990
  • Nov 10, 2009 1:21pm Nov 10, 2009 1:21pm
Quoting malcolmb14
20% a month ....greedy aren't we ?

one reason I have not made over 1 mill is that I took out alot of equity out of account and put into gold bars .. safe and sound in a bank

there is going to be a currency crisis , making the recent financial crisis look like nothing ..and the only thing of any value will be gold and silver. Paper money will become worthless.

Also you will not turn 2 k to 6 figures one year ... run the spread sheet .. make 30 pip per day 1.5 % risk it takes about 23 months to get into 6 figure area. It is doable , as you...

it was you who said, you had 2k into 6 figure in a year.

dude why dont you share this great money management of yours, so people can see how a pro manage his money.

It seems like you are the only one with great results with vsa, no wonder.

lol
  • #3,991
  • Nov 10, 2009 1:29pm Nov 10, 2009 1:29pm
Quoting fcbarca
it was you who said, you had 2k into 6 figure in a year.

dude why dont you share this great money management of yours, so people can see how a pro manage his money.

It seems like you are the only one with great results with vsa, no wonder.

lol

send me that it was not 1 year...it was about 20 months....5 k to 6 figure (and NOT 800,000k)

go back and look at my posts this week .

totld short to be careful 148.50 on friday on gj ....where did it go ...151 ...

told traders gj was in buy zone at 150.20 yesterday .. where did it go 151

mention that last night asia was shake out ... where did it go ...??? back to where it started

mentioned today es target 1094 on long , then short 1094 for 1087 target ... and where did it go ?

just the few sets up and exact entries I have mentioned last three day would have made one. 250 , 80 , 120 and 150 pip ( if you had of couaght all of move)

I am not the only one that does well using this ... trust me.

Islander , shamus , twobuck and others are all using vsa very well .

We are not the ones that said yesterday trading is easy ...that was you ....

I need prove NOTHING to you .... just go and read posts on trades .. they are not all right but I bet 80% are...and posts are done BEFORE trade not after, that is what counts .

Most traders come in after the fact and say wow that was an easy 100 pip....and share nothing
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  • #3,992
  • Nov 10, 2009 1:37pm Nov 10, 2009 1:37pm
Quoting fcbarca
it was you who said, you had 2k into 6 figure in a year.

dude why dont you share this great money management of yours, so people can see how a pro manage his money.

It seems like you are the only one with great results with vsa, no wonder.

lol

if you are getting frustrated instead of yanking on my chain be constructive , post a chart saying how and why you took the trade that you lost money on , then may myself and others can give you some pointers to help you become a better trader

traidng is not easy ... trust me i got kicked in rear end last week lost about 250 pip on a swing trade and was TRading ES all week so did not make it back on fx account. This week has been better , gone back into day trading mode....
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  • #3,993
  • Nov 10, 2009 1:41pm Nov 10, 2009 1:41pm
fc ...

here is a simple range trade...es .. I have been trading this range today

even mentioned the f...ing rangfe 1st thing this morning ... if one cannot just sell top 3 point stop buy bottom 3 point stop ... then give up trading.

I am getting frustred with your whinning to tell you the truth ...lol

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  • #3,994
  • Nov 10, 2009 1:43pm Nov 10, 2009 1:43pm
http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...stcount=207416

alkready if you took that one 30 pip stop ..you make a few pips .. i think test 6715 , that would make a 30 pip trade ... just like that

not at time of post PRICEWAS STILL HEADING UP into daily pivot

all of these trades are based on looking at volumne / price action and s/r levels... some days are easier than others ...
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  • #3,995
  • Nov 10, 2009 1:48pm Nov 10, 2009 1:48pm
Quoting malcolmb14
send me that it was not 1 year...it was about 20 months....5 k to 6 figure (and NOT 800,000k)

go back and look at my posts this week .

totld short to be careful 148.50 on friday on gj ....where did it go ...151 ...

told traders gj was in buy zone at 150.20 yesterday .. where did it go 151

mention that last night asia was shake out ... where did it go ...??? back to where it started

mentioned today es target 1094 on long , then short 1094 for 1087 target ... and where did it go ?

just the few sets up and exact entries I have mentioned...

WHAT!!!!!????? you bet 80% are right......!

you said you turned 2k into 6 figure in a year, and some guys thanked you for sharing this information, its on your posts somewhere, on this thread.
  • #3,996
  • Nov 10, 2009 1:49pm Nov 10, 2009 1:49pm
Quoting fcbarca
it was you who said, you had 2k into 6 figure in a year.

dude why dont you share this great money management of yours, so people can see how a pro manage his money.

It seems like you are the only one with great results with vsa, no wonder.

lol
no offecne 15 posts ... and 13 of them attacking me ...

why not go bark up someone elses tree.

anyone know if i start a thread if i can just ban muppets like this FC fellow from reading the thread. I hate sharing my knowledge with idiots that do not appreciate it? ..sorry i have little patience for guys like this.
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  • #3,997
  • Nov 10, 2009 1:50pm Nov 10, 2009 1:50pm
Quoting s21
hi, quick question: do you think it really matters which current time do you use? i'm asking this because if you set the current time as standard time for your area the candles will be different between different time frames reported at GMT or NY time...
This is a much discussed topic.

I use GMT which is primarily because I'm in the UK, but also because of the alignment of the GMT EoD with the beginning of the Asian session and the worldwide significance of GMT as a measure of time.

Many of the traders I know around the world use GMT but equally a few use a timezone that means their 4hr chart closes are out with GMT yet they do very well with their trading. So it really depends on whether or not you think a different timezone will impact on YOUR trading.

1hr charts are of course the same everywhere.
  • #3,998
  • Nov 10, 2009 1:51pm Nov 10, 2009 1:51pm
Quoting malcolmb14
no offecne 15 posts ... and 13 of them attacking me ...

why not go bark up someone elses tree.

anyone know if i start a thread if i can just ban muppets like this FC fellow from reading the thread. I hate sharing my knowledge with idiots that do not appreciate it? ..sorry i have little patience for guys like this.
You can set up a thread and restrict the posters to those with a certain level of vouches.

(please don't make it more than 6!)
  • #3,999
  • Nov 10, 2009 1:51pm Nov 10, 2009 1:51pm
Quoting fcbarca
WHAT!!!!!????? you bet 80% are right......!

you said you turned 2k into 6 figure in a year, and some guys thanked you for sharing this information, its on your posts somewhere, on this thread.

go find it Rover....

listen you are a brain child it seems .... run a spread sheet ... then consdier if it is possible to run 5 k to 250 k in 20 months.....using compounding. I di not reach 250 k .... lower but 6 figures none the less
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  • #4,000
  • Nov 10, 2009 1:52pm Nov 10, 2009 1:52pm
Quoting RedCabbage
You can set up a thread and restrict the posters to those with a certain level of vouches.

(please don't make it more than 6!)
thanks ...
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