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  • #3,721
  • Oct 8, 2009 7:59pm Oct 8, 2009 7:59pm
Special delication to VSA(she's hot), and i think most guys in here
feel the same way about her..lol-(at least the ones that have spent some time
with her)

Nice weekend folks......bring it home, minnie

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  • #3,722
  • Oct 8, 2009 10:33pm Oct 8, 2009 10:33pm
Quoting tfflyer
HiddenGap,

here is 10 min chart of the same question about Wide spread climatic bars..

In this scenario next bar was up. But in 5 minutes example here next bar was down.

So, in 5 minutes i should look for shorts after climatic bar and on 10 min chart for longs ?

Yes, on 10 min chart next bar, which is up, is on volume less than previous 2, maybe this counts somewhow that says - NO no for longs !

Thank You for Your comments !

Best,
Tom...
something to be aware of about ibfx charts.

here are 2 sample charts from a trade I was taking yesterday on the GY. I have an account with MBT so trade off their charts, but also watch ibfx for volume. ibfx 1H close made a new high which created the impression that the PA was more bullish. (it didn't make a new high on any other charts I was watching. these signalled the pullback which followed this candle close much more clearly.)
I have also noticed that they often will show a candle break under support or above resistance when on my other charts it doesn't.
if ibfx is your broker, then it makes sense to follow their PA, but I find that their PA can lead to false impressions on where the actual market PA is moving. I understand differences on 4H closes because of different timezones. but imho a 10-15 pip difference on the 1H seems like a lot to me.
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  • #3,723
  • Edited 11:57pm Oct 8, 2009 11:25pm | Edited 11:57pm
Quoting taomql4
-BTW-

Those guys on wall street are a bunch of crazy folks==they all have gathered in a HERD mentality and have convinced themselves that the world is falling apart and aree selling ----boy--i wish i have enough capital--i woulld be accumulating like crazy now--with all these crazy low stock prices--i have a feeling that DOW--is going to POP pretty soon.

I know thatt some dude is accumulating right now-----

This is how Billionaires are created folks...........
NAAHH--really---you don't say///
Now, i don't know if i should go SHORT..LOL

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  • #3,724
  • Oct 9, 2009 1:09am Oct 9, 2009 1:09am
Quoting taomql4
NAAHH--really---you don't say///
Now, i don't know if i should go SHORT..LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2W9Z...er_profilepage
i just longed gu , lost 50 pip ...so much for that guy ....lol
Blogging daily now at www.volume.zone
  • #3,725
  • Oct 9, 2009 4:57am Oct 9, 2009 4:57am
HiddenGap,
is it possible for You to share Your better Volume indicator for Visual Trader ?
Also, if its not possible, that ok.

Maybe some other can change also MT4 HiddenGap indicator to VT Trader platform, if its not taking a lot of time?

Thanks !

Best,
Tom
  • #3,726
  • Oct 9, 2009 6:46am Oct 9, 2009 6:46am
Quoting malcolmb14
i just longed gu , lost 50 pip ...so much for that guy ....lol
hehe..good lesson.
malc by the way ,how is your friend.
  • #3,727
  • Oct 9, 2009 7:16am Oct 9, 2009 7:16am
I have IBFX as well and monitor pricing and execution through Oanda. The thing with IBFX is that during news times their spreads go very wide and creates longer spikes in candles and this seem to be causing that few pips discrepancy on tdls and candle highs in comparison with other broker. I monitor price of IBFX and Oanda simultaneously so only during news I do see the discrepancy.

Quoting Fudomyo
something to be aware of about ibfx charts.

here are 2 sample charts from a trade I was taking yesterday on the GY. I have an account with MBT so trade off their charts, but also watch ibfx for volume....
  • #3,728
  • Oct 9, 2009 1:21pm Oct 9, 2009 1:21pm
Quoting taomql4
NAAHH--really---you don't say///
Now, i don't know if i should go SHORT..LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2W9Z...er_profilepage

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Have a great weekend!

Chief
  • #3,729
  • Oct 9, 2009 10:33pm Oct 9, 2009 10:33pm
Could you or someone please display the Better Volume indi for TF under 15min (1, 5min TF)? The one i have only works on TF's 15 and higher.
  • #3,730
  • Oct 10, 2009 12:24pm Oct 10, 2009 12:24pm
Hi.. does anybody know how does data feed provider assembly volume data for synthetics pairs? I'd say(and don't know if it is true) that it isn't possible to buy/sell for example eur/gbp directly because this pair doesn't exist on spot(or does?) so when one wants to trade e/g so his broker has to buy e/u and sell g/u and that's it..

Anyway.. thx to shamus and all from this forum and irc chat
  • #3,731
  • Oct 10, 2009 9:40pm Oct 10, 2009 9:40pm
Quoting japapatramta
Hi.. does anybody know how does data feed provider assembly volume data for synthetics pairs? I'd say(and don't know if it is true) that it isn't possible to buy/sell for example eur/gbp directly because this pair doesn't exist on spot(or does?) so when one wants to trade e/g so his broker has to buy e/u and sell g/u and that's it..

Anyway.. thx to shamus and all from this forum and irc chat

Hello Japapatramta, that is not true. You can directly trade eur/gbp as a crossed pair directly from your broker. With my broker, i can trade eur/gbp if i desire too.

Shreem
  • #3,732
  • Oct 11, 2009 1:50am Oct 11, 2009 1:50am
Quoting shreem
Hello Japapatramta, that is not true. You can directly trade eur/gbp as a crossed pair directly from your broker. With my broker, i can trade eur/gbp if i desire too.

Shreem
That's it.. yes you can click on buy/sell E/G in your platform, but I don't know what happen.. When you trade a major, you broker will pass the order throught to his providers or will pair the order with his own orderstream. That's because majors pairs are really traded on the interbank market, but I'm not sure if E/G is same case.. Do you know about? Maybe it is a stupid question, but how can I use VSA on synthetics pairs which aren't real
  • #3,733
  • Oct 11, 2009 2:20am Oct 11, 2009 2:20am
Quoting japapatramta
That's it.. yes you can click on buy/sell E/G in your platform, but I don't know what happen.. When you trade a major, you broker will pass the order throught to his providers or will pair the order with his own orderstream. That's because majors pairs are really traded on the interbank market, but I'm not sure if E/G is same case.. Do you know about? Maybe it is a stupid question, but how can I use VSA on synthetics pairs which aren't real
Hello Japapatramta. It depend on your broker. If your not trading big size through UBS, Reuters or the like but through a small retail broker, either if you trade majors or crosses, it all boil down to the same. Those trades do not go to the true big interbank market directly but through your broker in the retail forex market.

In fact, for VSA, it doesnt matter where you orders are going as VSA can be seen in any market as long as you have candle or bar and tick or true volume on your chart.

Hope it help

Shreem
  • #3,734
  • Oct 11, 2009 2:52am Oct 11, 2009 2:52am
Quoting shreem
Hello Japapatramta. It depend on your broker. If your not trading big size through UBS, Reuters or the like but through a small retail broker, either if you trade majors or crosses, it all boil down to the same. Those trades do not go to the true big interbank market directly but through your broker in the retail forex market.

In fact, for VSA, it doesnt matter where you orders are going as VSA can be seen in any market as long as you have candle or bar and tick or true volume on your chart.

Hope it help

Shreem
It didn't help :-) Because even if I wil agree with fact that E/G can be traded directly(which imho isn't possible), but let's say "hypoteticaly" that it can be so it opens more questions than it's answering.. Because the big traders and institutions can hide huge E/G trades via buying E/U and selling G/U which causes some volume reaction on majors, but NO reaction on E/G, doesn't it?
  • #3,735
  • Oct 12, 2009 5:01am Oct 12, 2009 5:01am
Not a lot of activity here, maybe due to the Holiday.

Here's a chart of a trade just taken.

The market gave an interesting "tell" that we don't see much. Take a look at the double arrow. This candle is a wide spread down candle closing off its low with the next candle up on volume less than the previous two candles. But the volume is also climatic. So we are dealing with climatic action candle with volume less than the previous two candles. If we couple that with the close off the low and the next candle down, we know we are dealing with no real selling pressure here.

Technically, we want a close on or near the low for no selling pressure, but what else can be going on here?

3 intervals later, we get a nice Key Reversal Bar (candle). It makes a lower low than the previous candle, opens higher than the close of the previous candle and closes above both the previous close and its open. Entered long on the next candle.

If that entry was missed, there was another opportunity as a hidden test appears 3 intervals later just before the price surge.
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  • #3,736
  • Oct 12, 2009 5:11am Oct 12, 2009 5:11am
Just wanted to post these two pics.

The first one the forest and the second one is the trees. From the forest, we get the market structure. We see that the trend is down and we see the market making lower highs within a supply/demand delta zone. On the second chart, which is just zoomed in, some notable VSA signs are marked.
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  • #3,737
  • Oct 12, 2009 6:54am Oct 12, 2009 6:54am
Thanks HiddenGap for examples !

Best,
Tom
  • #3,738
  • Oct 12, 2009 6:59am Oct 12, 2009 6:59am
Quoting HiddenGap
Not a lot of activity here, maybe due to the Holiday.

Here's a chart of a trade just taken.

The market gave an interesting "tell" that we don't see much. Take a look at the double arrow. This candle is a wide spread down candle closing off its low with the next candle up on volume less than the previous two candles. But the volume is also climatic. So we are dealing with climatic action candle with volume less than the previous two candles. If we couple that with the close off the low and the next candle down, we know we are dealing with no...
Hi HG,
sorry I have to comment. I was reading your post untill you said 3 interval later we get a nice Key Reversal bar.
can we say that this is a KEY reversal bar? specailly it closed below the both the high and the open of the previous bar( the previous bar was a down bar)
  • #3,739
  • Oct 12, 2009 11:46am Oct 12, 2009 11:46am
Hello Dear HiddenGap. Thanks a lot for your recent 2 posts. They are, clear, concise and right on as usual. Really much appreciated the time that you are putting here.

Shreem
  • #3,740
  • Oct 12, 2009 4:16pm Oct 12, 2009 4:16pm
HiddenGap,
i just relooked to Your picture - i have question regarding hidden test.
Shouldnt hidden test be atleast of the lows when closing ?


Thanks.

Best,
Tom


Quoting HiddenGap
Not a lot of activity here, maybe due to the Holiday.

Here's a chart of a trade just taken.

The market gave an interesting "tell" that we don't see much. Take a look at the double arrow. This candle is a wide spread down candle closing off its low with the next candle up on volume less than the previous two candles. But the volume is also climatic. So we are dealing with climatic action candle with volume less than the previous two candles. If we couple that with the close off the low and the next candle down, we know we are dealing with no...
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