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Saving Capitalism from Capitalists....

  • #1
  • First Post: Sep 28, 2009 1:36pm Sep 28, 2009 1:36pm
Hi guys,

I'm looking for interesting books on free markets and capitalism, really as a kind of introduction to get my feet wet, hear some opinions, and make some of my own. I enjoy reading some of the members posts regarding these issues on the forum and would like to be able to join in, not just here, but also increase my knowledge for college/University.

So, I have so far found 'Saving Capitalism from the Capitalists' on amazon and read the reviews but I'm wondering if anyone here has recommendations or has a view about this particular book...

Leon
Living the adventure in my head.
  • #2
  • Sep 28, 2009 1:50pm Sep 28, 2009 1:50pm
have fun in college!
all i remember about those days are frat parties, frosh girls, skiing, and foosball.
and something about majoring in econ but only through a drunken stoned haze.
  • #3
  • Sep 28, 2009 1:54pm Sep 28, 2009 1:54pm
2 books that you probably won't find in the curriculum are confessions of an economic hitman and atlas shrugged
they are eye openers
  • #4
  • Sep 28, 2009 2:03pm Sep 28, 2009 2:03pm
Quoting Fx24k
2 books that you probably won't find in the curriculum are confessions of an economic hitman and atlas shrugged
they are eye openers
Eye openers or outlandish conspiracies? Ill read up on them, cheers.

'Capitalism and Freedom' by Milton Friedman seems to be a popular book, anyone?
Living the adventure in my head.
  • #5
  • Edited 3:06pm Sep 28, 2009 2:46pm | Edited 3:06pm
free markets/austrian school

America's Great Depression, by Murray N. Rothbard
free pdf here
http://mises.org/rothbard/agd/contents.asp

reviews, im not good at it
http://www.amazon.com/Americas-Great-Depression-Murray-Rothbard/product-reviews/1607961105/ref=cm_cr_dp_all_helpful
Invincibility lies in the defence, the possibility of victory in the attack
  • #6
  • Sep 28, 2009 4:02pm Sep 28, 2009 4:02pm
Freakonomics: A Rogue Economist Explores the Hidden Side of Everything
  • #7
  • Sep 28, 2009 4:21pm Sep 28, 2009 4:21pm
Milton Friedman on youtube. Many good videos.

http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...aq=1&oq=milton
  • #8
  • Sep 28, 2009 5:13pm Sep 28, 2009 5:13pm
I can recommend on your search for knowledge, to ask yourself 2 concepts:

Reality
1) What is the definition of capitalism/free markets? What are its elements? What are not its elements? What are the definitions/elements of other economic/political systems? Who defines capitalism?


Perception (How we see it, how we are convinced to see it)
2) What type of economic/political system do I live in (presuming the US/Western World)? Who defines it? Is it in reality the same as I perceive it in my mind? Is it in reality the same as others perceive in their minds?

-snacker
  • #9
  • Sep 28, 2009 6:01pm Sep 28, 2009 6:01pm
"Capitalism: A love story" is coming out soon, it's a Michael Moore documentary.

I won't agree with anything in it except that the government bailout was wrong. But I guess it's going to be a lot of fun to see him being stupid.

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  • #10
  • Sep 28, 2009 6:47pm Sep 28, 2009 6:47pm
Michael Moore: Capitalism is evil... You have to eliminate it and replace it with something that is good for all people and that something is democracy."

Effin moron.
  • #11
  • Sep 28, 2009 6:51pm Sep 28, 2009 6:51pm
Quoting artov
"Capitalism: A love story" is coming out soon, it's a Michael Moore documentary.

I won't agree with anything in it except that the government bailout was wrong. But I guess it's going to be a lot of fun to see him being stupid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05MKn1wFOmk
What is he doing - catching burgers tossed from the windows? Sheesh. The truth and Michael Moore tend to be at opposite poles.
I'm pretty much done with all this ...
  • #12
  • Sep 28, 2009 6:55pm Sep 28, 2009 6:55pm
Quoting Darkstar
Michael Moore: Capitalism is evil... You have to eliminate it and replace it with something that is good for all people and that something is democracy."

Effin moron.
Nice to see you around lately Darkstar.


phoenix
  • #13
  • Sep 28, 2009 8:03pm Sep 28, 2009 8:03pm
Quoting phoenix421
Nice to see you around lately Darkstar.


phoenix
Is it not 'nice' to see me around?

Thanks for the recommendations so far guys, although I think the two I have seen on Amazon are probably still the most suitable. Really looking toward a good Interesting general book on Capitalism, preferably one that argues cases for and against.

Anyone who has suggestions, please post.
Living the adventure in my head.
  • #14
  • Edited 8:19pm Sep 28, 2009 8:09pm | Edited 8:19pm
Leon,

silverheat gave you a link to one of the greatest, if not the greatest, sites explaining, celebrating, and championing free market (laissez-faire) capitalism.

I love this forum. Communists, statists, collectivists, don't last long here. Real traders know down deep this stuff.

After studying the site and really getting to know well the writings of Rothbard and Mises you can watch Michael Moore's latest venture into statist hypocrisy and rip it to shreds.

If you'd like a quick crash course, read this before you go see the movie.
The Myth that Laissez Faire Is Responsible for Our Present Crisis

I'm not bullshitting you Leon, you are an Austrian at heart.

And don't let any tenured, keynesian assed, hyperliberal professor tell you that's a bad thing!
  • #15
  • Sep 28, 2009 8:24pm Sep 28, 2009 8:24pm
Quoting Leonlorenzo
Is it not 'nice' to see me around?

Thanks for the recommendations so far guys, although I think the two I have seen on Amazon are probably still the most suitable. Really looking toward a good Interesting general book on Capitalism, preferably one that argues cases for and against.

Anyone who has suggestions, please post.
I'm sure if you quit posting for two years until lately, people would notice you back Leon.

This is a great topic and the link opie just posted is excellent. Thanks!


phoenix
  • #16
  • Sep 28, 2009 8:28pm Sep 28, 2009 8:28pm
Quoting opie999

I love this forum. Communists, statists, collectivists, don't last long here. Real traders know down deep this stuff.
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Mises is one of the best sites out there. But don't get the illusion that we live in a free-market laissez-faire economy. The housing market is subsidized all over the country through the low interest rate policies of the gov. it is essentially nationalized, the agriculture business is massively subsidized leading to corn based foods to be lower in price than they really should. leading to certain companies earning subsidized profits, the cash for clunkers isn't laissez-faire, all the housing subsidies in the major population areas of New York, LA, NJ, cause the increase in house and rent costs because the government gives out money to people which spurs demand-distortion of the housing market, all the easy money the gov gives to students allows colleges to keep raising tuition cause everytime they need money all they have to do is go to the state and say they need money or give the students more loans.
I haven't yet mentioned the wall street bailouts.

We already live in Michael Moores fantasy world, and its not good enough for him, he wants more of this crap.

Seriously go read mises, most of the books written can be found through a google search on the mises website.

PS: don't mention austrian economics in college, you might get ridiculed or kicked out of class like me.

-snacker
  • #17
  • Sep 28, 2009 10:22pm Sep 28, 2009 10:22pm
Quoting thesnacker
Mises is one of the best sites out there....
God forbid you mention the miracle of Chile either. That one always seems to cause a stir.
  • #18
  • Sep 28, 2009 10:49pm Sep 28, 2009 10:49pm
Quoting Darkstar
Michael Moore: Capitalism is evil... You have to eliminate it and replace it with something that is good for all people and that something is democracy."

Effin moron.
hmmm, so that's what they call socialism now.......
Same Whore .... Different Dress
  • #19
  • Sep 28, 2009 11:09pm Sep 28, 2009 11:09pm
Quoting johnedoe
hmmm, so that's what they call socialism now.......
Yes. Darkstar's comment drips with a tragic irony that made me practically choke with grief. A very sharp dude.

May the gods help us turn this nation back to The Constitutional Republic framed and envisioned by the Founders.
  • #20
  • Sep 29, 2009 6:51am Sep 29, 2009 6:51am
I still have to read a lot but...
Mises.
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