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Non-leverage Broker

  • #1
  • First Post: Sep 24, 2009 8:57pm Sep 24, 2009 8:57pm
Hi,

does anyone here know of a fx broker that offers non-leverage FX trading accounts? like 1:1 leverage essentially ..

tahnx
  • #2
  • Edited 10:32pm Sep 24, 2009 9:19pm | Edited 10:32pm
Quoting ludwigreport
Hi,

does anyone here know of a fx broker that offers non-leverage FX trading accounts? like 1:1 leverage essentially ..

tahnx
1:1 leverage or 1% leverage as some banks use to denote 1:100 leverage?

1:1 would mean 0% leverage. One would need margin of $100,000 to trade one standard lot, or $10,000 to trade one mini-lot and $1,000 to trade one micro-lot.


One pip profit on a standard lot would generally be $10, 10 pip profit would be $100 and 100 pip profit would be $1,000.

That means a 30 pip proift on a standard lot would require margin of $100,000 for a profit of $300.

Just curious why one would like to go for 1:1 leverage (or no leverage)? Is our money very safe with brokers? Do we get interest on idle funds? What is our broker's networth and liquidity position? What is their rating? Who rates them? Who regulates and audits them? How transparant is their platform and datafeed? Can we withdraw/transfer money out of our trading accounts in in 24 hours?
The Thief of Wall Street
  • #3
  • Sep 24, 2009 9:49pm Sep 24, 2009 9:49pm
we just need to be able to trade with no leverage as we would with leverage.

generally brokers don't offer no leverage, since there is prolly no money it for them ..

thoughts?
  • #4
  • Sep 24, 2009 10:04pm Sep 24, 2009 10:04pm
Quoting ludwigreport
we just need to be able to trade with no leverage as we would with leverage.

generally brokers don't offer no leverage, since there is prolly no money it for them ..

thoughts?
The best option in this case would be to maitain a bank account in the currency you want to buy. This will alteast be in a safer place, earn some interest, will be liquid, can be used as collateral, etc. with all the benefits of appreciation in value.

If you trade with 5% risk per trade, only 5% will appreciate, remaining 95% will still depreciate. No point in trading.
The Thief of Wall Street
  • #5
  • Sep 24, 2009 10:10pm Sep 24, 2009 10:10pm
Chicky ?? I think you may have it mixed up my friend.

1:1 leverage is the same as no leverage at all.

You would use $100,000 to control $100,000.

2:1 leverage would require 50,000 to control 100,000.

Now, back to the original question.....

My answer is that virtually ALL br0kers "offer" 1:1 leverage. It's just that most br0kers offer a great deal more. Even if your br0ker offers 500:1 leverage, then they also offer 1:1. The difference is in your use of the available leverage.

Are you looking for a br0ker that does not allow anything greater than 1:1 ?? I have to wonder, what would be the purpose of this quest ??
  • #6
  • Sep 24, 2009 10:13pm Sep 24, 2009 10:13pm
Quoting ludwigreport
Hi,

does anyone here know of a fx broker that offers non-leverage FX trading accounts? like 1:1 leverage essentially ..

tahnx
As prior reviewer alluded to, it sounds like you may not understand what "leverage" is. 1:1 leverage is simply trading whatever your account balance is. So if you have $1,000 in your account, you trade a lot size of $1,000; simple, 1:1. If you wanted to trade 100:1 leverage, your lot size would be $100,000 in that example.

As someone just said, you can trade 1:1 at any broker on the planet; take your pick!
  • #7
  • Sep 24, 2009 10:23pm Sep 24, 2009 10:23pm
Quoting price
Chicky ?? I think you may have it mixed up my friend.

1:1 leverage is the same as no leverage at all.

You would use $100,000 to control $100,000.

2:1 leverage would require 50,000 to control 100,000.

Now, back to the original question.....

My answer is that virtually ALL br0kers "offer" 1:1 leverage. It's just that most br0kers offer a great deal more. Even if your br0ker offers 500:1 leverage, then they also offer 1:1. The difference is in your use of the available leverage.

Are you looking for a br0ker that does not allow anything...
Thanks for correcting me Price. I got it now. It seems that 1 in 100:1 or 1:1 is not a ratio but the denomiinator like 2 or 2/1 is one and the same thing. Will edit my post.

Thanks again.
The Thief of Wall Street
  • #8
  • Sep 24, 2009 10:38pm Sep 24, 2009 10:38pm
Right on man.... It seems that we like to over-complicate this leverage thing as much as we do with trading. This topic just seems to go on and on. If we talk about it for a while longer, I'll be right back to totally confused.

The funniest one I see is when someone says, "I just doubled my money!!"

"I used $500 in margin and made a $500 profit"

Nevermind that they had several thousand on account. I don't call that "doubling my money", but I see it debated around and around in circles !!

Anyway, Have a good day.
  • #9
  • Last Post: Oct 21, 2009 12:40am Oct 21, 2009 12:40am
also write back to NFA that 400:1 leverage is OK ....

you want 1:1 ... then fund your account with 100,000 USD
and trade 1 (ONE) lot ONLY!!!!!!!!!!!!

damn I hate NFA and the uneducated people that complain on leverage
and can't understand the price on the chart is bid for selling ... if they want to buy they have to add spread to the price they see ...

"mommy the X broker executed my buy order and the price didn't even touch it ... I hate those stop hunters" .... understand the BIG GUYS are mostly stop hunting ... if you can prove the broker is stop hunting then NFA will fine them at least 100,000 USD
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