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  • #521
  • Sep 17, 2009 2:09pm Sep 17, 2009 2:09pm
Quoting billbss
It still isn't there, unless I'm messed up.
here it is:
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7638/64141998.gif
  • #522
  • Sep 17, 2009 2:16pm Sep 17, 2009 2:16pm
Quoting giraia_br
here it is:
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7638/64141998.gif
That would be a trade.
It would also probably be filtered out by the indicator, with its default settings.
  • #523
  • Sep 17, 2009 2:27pm Sep 17, 2009 2:27pm
Quoting billbss
That would be a trade.
It would also probably be filtered out by the indicator, with its default settings.
you mean the new EA, right?

many thanks for asnwers all questions.
  • #524
  • Sep 17, 2009 2:30pm Sep 17, 2009 2:30pm
Quoting giraia_br
you mean the new EA, right?

many thanks for asnwers all questions.
Yes- the EA.
  • #525
  • Sep 18, 2009 9:44am Sep 18, 2009 9:44am
I pulled the trigger at the red line. I almost got stopped out, then price went in my direction, it came to 2 pips from my TP. Then it reversed to BE lol so I closed at BE.

I would never allow a trade which is 2 pips from my TP to reverse for a loss, such an outcome would be very difficult to handle psychologically.
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  • #526
  • Sep 18, 2009 11:05am Sep 18, 2009 11:05am
i am in this trade.

see in the first pic what i see with the chart at default. I need to change the scale like in the second chart to see the two lines at the same time
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  • #527
  • Sep 18, 2009 12:33pm Sep 18, 2009 12:33pm
i putted manually the vertical lines and trendlines, the EA did not recognize it.
  • #528
  • Sep 18, 2009 12:52pm Sep 18, 2009 12:52pm
Quoting giraia_br
i putted manually the vertical lines and trendlines, the EA did not recognize it.

Yeah, the peaks don't match up. Looks like divergence to me though.
  • #529
  • Sep 18, 2009 2:59pm Sep 18, 2009 2:59pm
Quoting LucidObscuri
Yeah, the peaks don't match up. Looks like divergence to me though.
how is going the new indicator? Do you think is possible a change to make the lines appears close to the line of the base chart?
  • #530
  • Sep 18, 2009 3:14pm Sep 18, 2009 3:14pm
Quoting giraia_br
how is going the new indicator? Do you think is possible a change to make the lines appears close to the line of the base chart?

Unfortunatelly I haven't had much time to work on it. In a couple weeks I'm rolling out a new packaging system in multiple locations across the U.S. for the client I work for (they manufacture cabinet doors). Anyway, it's been pretty hectic getting everything tested and making sure all the programs are bug free.

There is something that I noticed recently with the Overlay that i'll have to fix since EURUSD is reaching higher than it has in a long time. You may have noticed it move up or down a bit when refreshing it after leaving it for a while.

For now you can try lowering the "Offset" property, but be sure to do this in both the indicator and the EA.

I should be able to find some spare time once we get the new system through QA (Quality Assurance).
  • #531
  • Sep 19, 2009 11:58am Sep 19, 2009 11:58am
thanks LucidObscury. I am anxiously waiting for the new indicator.

i will try to lower the offset again but last time i did not see any difference (making the change in both indicator and expert)

and i wish you good luck with your other bussiness.
  • #532
  • Sep 19, 2009 1:06pm Sep 19, 2009 1:06pm
Quoting giraia_br
thanks LucidObscury. I am anxiously waiting for the new indicator.

i will try to lower the offset again but last time i did not see any difference (making the change in both indicator and expert)

and i wish you good luck with your other bussiness.
Hmm. It definatelly makes a difference. Remember, Indicator property changes often do not take affect until you "Close" the "Indicators List".

Thanks for the well wishes.
  • #533
  • Edited 2:29pm Sep 20, 2009 10:26am | Edited 2:29pm
Quoting giraia_br
I need to change the scale like in the second chart to see the two lines at the same time
Do you know how to do that? Place your mouse cursor on the price axis on the right, click and drag.

Quoting LucidObscuri
Remember, Indicator property changes often do not take affect until you "Close" the "Indicators List".
Also you may need to re-draw the chart. Cycle timeframes, etc.
Hindsight is 20/20
  • #534
  • Sep 20, 2009 4:35pm Sep 20, 2009 4:35pm
Quoting cosgrove
Also you may need to re-draw the chart. Cycle timeframes, etc.
Yes, indicators re-draw when the timeframe changes or when properties have changed, but not while the "indicators list" is still open.

BTW, I'm pretty much done with the changes to the overlay. I completely re-wrote it so it now has nothing in common with the "OverLayChart..." indicators. I took a different approach to positioning it on the screen, so it should always be close to the primary symbol at the right side of the chart. It still strays as you move farther left into history. I also added an option to scale the movement by the value of one pip in the deposit currency instead of both pair drawing relatively pip for pip. I need to test this a bit, but right now it's showing that for 1 mini-lot, 1 pip of EURUSD is $1 (USD) and 1 pip of USDCHF is a little over $0.97. Does that sound right?

Thanks.
  • #535
  • Sep 20, 2009 4:37pm Sep 20, 2009 4:37pm
@Lucid: Which indi is that exactly? Posted on which date?
" Average traders look to the left, great traders look to the right."
  • #536
  • Sep 20, 2009 4:48pm Sep 20, 2009 4:48pm
Quoting magicchance
@Lucid: Which indi is that exactly? Posted on which date?
If you're looking for the Overlay indicator you can use the attachments link at the top right of the page and grab the most recent version. I haven't relase the one that scales by value yet. I want to make sure the values are correct. Here's the formula I use the scale the movement of the SMA in the unreleased version, but only if the option is set to true:

PipsRatio = (MarketInfo(SubSymbol,MODE_TICKVALUE) / MarketInfo(SubSymbol,MODE_TICKSIZE)) / (MarketInfo(Symbol(),MODE_TICKVALUE) / MarketInfo(Symbol(),MODE_TICKSIZE));
  • #537
  • Sep 20, 2009 5:00pm Sep 20, 2009 5:00pm
OK, I've played around with a few pip calculators and these values do seem to be correct. Once the market starts moving so I can make sure the indicator doesn't redraw in any undesireable way I'll post it. It will still be a little while before I get the divergence EA and this indicator merged into a single indicator since I've got a couple bugs to sort out in the EA logic.
  • #538
  • Sep 20, 2009 5:22pm Sep 20, 2009 5:22pm
Got it! Look forward to seeing the newest version....
" Average traders look to the left, great traders look to the right."
  • #539
  • Sep 21, 2009 5:25pm Sep 21, 2009 5:25pm
Hey guys.

I'm really fighting with the missing candle issue. I didn't have the problem on the 15M+ timeframes, but I took a look at the 5M and the issue is very prevelant. I've tried deleting my data and refreshing (from the broker), but no luck getting those candles filled in. I think this happens when your broker had no ticks come through for that whole period of time, so they just don't store any data for that candle. I really want to come up with a solution to this before I release anything.
  • #540
  • Sep 21, 2009 5:38pm Sep 21, 2009 5:38pm
Quoting LucidObscuri
Hey guys.

I'm really fighting with the missing candle issue. I didn't have the problem on the 15M+ timeframes, but I took a look at the 5M and the issue is very prevelant. I've tried deleting my data and refreshing (from the broker), but no luck getting those candles filled in. I think this happens when your broker had no ticks come through for that whole period of time, so they just don't store any data for that candle. I really want to come up with a solution to this before I release anything.
Lucid,
In every case of the missing candle, I have found that there is no gap on the actual chart of the overlayed pair.

Let me try to explain it this way.

If you compare the overlayed USDCHF with an original chart of USDCHF, they will not match.

You will see the shift occurring due to missing bars on the overlay. The bars are not missing on the USDCHF chart.
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