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  • #3,361
  • Sep 17, 2009 7:50am Sep 17, 2009 7:50am
I could not resist to share this. I like to use these in harmony to confirm what I assume I am reading out.


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Kind Regards zol
  • #3,362
  • Sep 17, 2009 8:00am Sep 17, 2009 8:00am
Does Anyone know how to close a position partially and how to modify SL/TP/Trailing Stop with esignal paper trader?
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  • #3,363
  • Sep 17, 2009 9:54am Sep 17, 2009 9:54am
Quoting zoli
I could not resist to share this. I like to use these in harmony to confirm what I assume I am reading out.
hi thats nice but i cannot see your enries and exits.
where did you entered ?
  • #3,364
  • Sep 17, 2009 10:58am Sep 17, 2009 10:58am
Quoting adriann
hi thats nice but i cannot see your enries and exits.
where did you entered ?
Adriann,

thank you for your question. I was actually busy with my other trade on the GJ so i did not enter on any of these markets. However, I can tell you where i would have entered let us say on AU, on which I like the set up the most (I do not want to post all the three charts again).

The reasons/actions I like on this chart:

1. There is new high in the background with indication of Supply.
2. There is a narrow range up bar accompanied with high V in the background. While this is not a clear End on the Rising market signal, it is weak nevertheless (there was a higher V down bar and an UT behind it).
3. After that bar the market is going down only to come back up again and hit the blue line, which is a previous top. The V on this move is far from bullish, especially the wide range up bar on low V is a good clue of further Weakness. The market is not going up on wide ranges far with Volume like that.
4.The next bar is a down bar and it was testing the top, not a proper ND because it is down but has the same function to me on this chart. Since it is down I would have entered on the next open with SL beyond the very Top (entry 1).
5. The market is giving us a ND bar and aggressive/more experienced traders may go short there but my second entry choice would be at the open of the bar with number 2.
6. My third choice of entry would have been at the open of the bar with number 3. There is a small up move accompanied by really low V, No Demand, and I would enter as soon as it is confirmed by a down bar.

There are further entry opportunities but looking at the far background (a bigger up swing) and a level 8679 is getting closer I would not have entered on these since I rather consider this a contra trend trade and I think I just scalp them if I trade them at all.

Similar things can be seen happening on the 2 other charts but looks different. That is the nice thing with these three pairs that they correlate to a degree useful to us so one can be picky on the set ups. The movement is similar after all.
Now this can not be used as a strict rule and I am putting a lot of time reading these guys and learning what is going on with them.

Hope this helps.



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  • #3,365
  • Edited 4:32pm Sep 17, 2009 1:06pm | Edited 4:32pm
Hi Denbur,
could You tell me please why this was not an upthrust ?

Thank You.

Best,
Tom

Quoting denbur
it does not matter much that the trend was up. i usually go against the trend. the main thing is that the supply was very limited. and by the way, this is not an up thrust...
  • #3,366
  • Sep 17, 2009 6:05pm Sep 17, 2009 6:05pm
Quoting tfflyer
Hi Denbur,
could You tell me please why this was not an upthrust ?

Thank You.

Best,
Tom
Because it is in the wrong place. If we take definition of an upthrust given by Tom William in his book, then this is definitely not an upthrust.

Upthrust comes AFTER distribution taken place, with weakness in the background. in your example there is no supply present. on this particular bar supply was stronger then demand on the high part of the up bar, but there is no result of that.

More over the fact that it is up bar tells that demand was present in the first place, and at the end of the bar some supply came in but was limited. Some one decided to sell so what? the market is deceiving...

Before considering such bar to be upthrust you really want to see couple of strong supply bars and distribution bars before upthrust. Same for no demand. no demand is different from lack of demand and also has to be in the right place.

Up trend matters too but only before distribution kicks in.
  • #3,367
  • Sep 18, 2009 2:07am Sep 18, 2009 2:07am
Hi.
Thank You for Your comments.

Appreciate.

Best,
Tom

Quoting denbur
Because it is in the wrong place. If we take definition of an upthrust given by Tom William in his book, then this is definitely not an upthrust.

Upthrust comes AFTER distribution taken place, with weakness in the background. in your example there is no supply present. on this particular bar supply was stronger then demand on the high part of the up bar, but there is no result of that.

More over the fact that it is up bar tells that demand was present in the first place, and at the end of the bar some supply came in but was limited. Some one...
  • #3,368
  • Sep 18, 2009 2:58am Sep 18, 2009 2:58am
I received a video message from Gavin Holmes yesterday about a trading contest. In that video he specifically references this thread. I think that is a testament to the work of Shamus, Malcolmb, Yuppie and all the other great posters here. Good job guys.......Big Brother is watching.
Without VSA, you're playing checkers while the Smart Money plays chess.
  • #3,369
  • Sep 18, 2009 3:51am Sep 18, 2009 3:51am
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Quoting HiddenGap
I received a video message from Gavin Holmes yesterday about a trading contest. In that video he specifically references this thread. I think that is a testament to the work of Shamus, Malcolmb, Yuppie and all the other great posters here. Good job guys.......Big Brother is watching.

Sweet... So, do we get some sort of royalties or commission?...
  • #3,370
  • Sep 18, 2009 6:38am Sep 18, 2009 6:38am
Quoting zoli
Adriann,

thank you for your question. I was actually busy with my other trade on the GJ so i did not enter on any of these markets....
Thanks for explanation : )
  • #3,371
  • Sep 18, 2009 6:40am Sep 18, 2009 6:40am
Quoting HiddenGap
I received a video message from Gavin Holmes yesterday about a trading contest. In that video he specifically references this thread. I think that is a testament to the work of Shamus, Malcolmb, Yuppie and all the other great posters here. Good job guys.......Big Brother is watching.
i received video message too. but where he refrences this tread ???
  • #3,372
  • Sep 18, 2009 7:15am Sep 18, 2009 7:15am
He references in his video message. Click on look video message and Gavin will start to talk.

Hi Gavin, now i know You are reading this thread... !

Best,
Tom
  • #3,373
  • Sep 18, 2009 7:20am Sep 18, 2009 7:20am
how come i did not receive that videomessage?
  • #3,374
  • Sep 18, 2009 8:03am Sep 18, 2009 8:03am
Quoting Dr.Geppynius
how come i did not receive that videomessage?

Hello Dr. Geppynius,. In order to receive this videomessage, you need to have subscribed to the free info on the website of traderguider and receive their announcment in email.

And yep, Gavin did talk about FF thread. That awsome work of Shamus and all others (including you of course Dr. Geppynius).

Thanks

Shreem
  • #3,375
  • Sep 18, 2009 8:11am Sep 18, 2009 8:11am
Quoting Dr.Geppynius
how come i did not receive that videomessage?
hi DR.Geppynius.
i think you have good reputation here.i heard about you
why dont you show much !!
  • #3,376
  • Sep 18, 2009 8:30am Sep 18, 2009 8:30am
Quoting HiddenGap
I received a video message from Gavin Holmes yesterday about a trading contest. In that video he specifically references this thread. I think that is a testament to the work of Shamus, Malcolmb, Yuppie and all the other great posters here. Good job guys.......Big Brother is watching.
hi HiddenGab,
he should mentioned you. you do a lot of effort.
actually you are one of our best teachers here.
  • #3,377
  • Sep 18, 2009 9:09am Sep 18, 2009 9:09am
Quoting shreem
Hello Dr. Geppynius,. In order to receive this videomessage, you need to have subscribed to the free info on the website of traderguider and receive their announcment in email.

And yep, Gavin did talk about FF thread. That awsome work of Shamus and all others (including you of course Dr. Geppynius).

Thanks

Shreem
that's why i am asking. i have gotten several mails of them months ago and also already have been their customer since 2 years, but currently inactive.

just curious (?)
  • #3,378
  • Sep 18, 2009 11:36am Sep 18, 2009 11:36am
Quoting rockk
hi HiddenGab,
he should mentioned you. you do a lot of effort.
actually you are one of our best teachers here.
I definitely think so. Hiddengap is one of the best in this thread, it's a pleasure to read his posts. Thanks HG for your help.
You make money by waiting, not by trading.
  • #3,379
  • Sep 18, 2009 11:42am Sep 18, 2009 11:42am
that is so great that you guys created this tread, and for all info about VSA.
I study this now. Before I had all time feeling that all numbers don't add up, and I can't find any reasonable explanation for most what happen on forex. Now I read M aster the Market, and I found simple explanation for all mine questions.

Thank you for your hard work and sharing!!!!
  • #3,380
  • Sep 18, 2009 1:11pm Sep 18, 2009 1:11pm
Quoting rockk
hi DR.Geppynius.
i think you have good reputation here.i heard about you
why dont you show much !!

DR G was and still is my mentor and friend .... awesome trader and knows this VSA stuff inside and out.

He is a busy guy..so no time to post. Also does not suffer fools well and ff is abundant with those lol
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