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  • #10,381
  • Sep 11, 2009 1:50pm Sep 11, 2009 1:50pm
Quoting luSan
I could be me...but this post keeping coming back to my mind...I keep reflecting on it...it says so much and so amazing...so powerful..

Have you friends thought about it?
lol , all the time... thought I was the only one awed by it...
To Live is the rarest thing in the world , Most people exist , that is all
  • #10,382
  • Sep 11, 2009 1:59pm Sep 11, 2009 1:59pm
Quoting DutchAngel
We are planning a move to Asia, and generator will prob be first thing we purchase as app they have lots of blackouts.
Hi Dutchangel,

Hoe gaat het?

How is the move to Asia going?
Nice to see some dutchies on the forex markets, they are few and far between.
Good luck!
  • #10,383
  • Sep 11, 2009 2:24pm Sep 11, 2009 2:24pm
The market is winding down, personally been in and out and away on business most of the week. Im looking forward to some extended screen time next week, as this one finishes pulling into a tight range , maybe we will see some good directional movement next week and get the last part of this year kicked off to a great start.

Wishing all a peaceful weekend.

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  • #10,384
  • Edited 4:04pm Sep 11, 2009 3:52pm | Edited 4:04pm
Quoting ukmanthailan

From my own study, there are many contradictions in it. If we are to believe that every word is true and should be used as a guide for life then perhaps, as an example, you could tell me why you think that it is a disgrace for women to speak in church?
I havn't found any can you show me one ?

Dont forget the bible has illustrations, symbolisms, parables so at times its not literal, however when understood it all harmonizes.

Response to your question.
Its not a matter of disgraceful or demeaning but a matter of orderly arrangement.
Gen.2:18 Not good for man to be alone, a compliment was created.
Man not being better but would possess qualities and abilities different than each other and that would compliment each other.
1 Corinthians 14:33 Creator, a god of order not disorder.
1 Co. 11:3 Lists order of subjection, God, Christ, man, woman.
1 Tim.2: 11-12 Not recommended to teach in the congregation so not to show lack of subjection.
Women do make valuable contributions to the activity of the congregation as noted at Psalm 68:11, Philippians 4:2,3 As they show love for there fellow man they encourage others outside the congregation to hold true to bible principles.
  • #10,385
  • Sep 11, 2009 4:13pm Sep 11, 2009 4:13pm
this is a post that had my attention just 2 posts above the one lusan and maheswara metioned. i feel this is another reason to reduce scout-size.

Quoting fti
you are dangerously scalping, instead of dancing. That is why you find difficulty in understanding. You are also aligning your cap as excuse to the MM , this is dangerous. Your state of undercapitalisaton is restricting your MM and therefore will impair your ability to MM the dance properly. You continue down this road and you will find that your cap will impliment tweaks that will hurt your dance and book.

I am quite sure that due to your cap to ROI ratio, you have absolute inabiity to ride , due to mindset.
their (maheswa & lusan) fti-quote is like a KOAN to me.... like:"what is the sound of one clapping hand??" i hope to be "enlightend" one day and understand what fti and the oldtimers are talking about.

i have some ideas but also had some wine so maybe later...

i have saved page 677 to review later. many special posts there!!!

kind greets, pax
even with my eyes open i cannot see everything
  • #10,386
  • Sep 11, 2009 8:29pm Sep 11, 2009 8:29pm
i will check your profile to see if you started the journal. i will be following it for my learning... thank you in advance

HI J-Pax,
If you want to look at my journal I'm sure you look at Lusan & GEfx journals they are very interesting, Look at their charts, the reason why they entried, what were they thinking at that time? Learn from their winning and also mistaking.
Again Thanks Lusan & GEfx, your journals are very good.

J-Pax, You are much more advance for me, your skews are up to 21 (practically up to 5). Me just beginner,I dont have a gut I can only do 1-1-1-1..... That's it. I'm chicken.

Cheers,
  • #10,387
  • Sep 11, 2009 9:50pm Sep 11, 2009 9:50pm
Quoting lilpip
I havn't found any can you show me one ?

Dont forget the bible has illustrations, symbolisms, parables so at times its not literal, however when understood it all harmonizes.

Response to your question.
Its not a matter of disgraceful or demeaning but a matter of orderly arrangement.
Gen.2:18 Not good for man to be alone, a compliment was created.
Man not being better but would possess qualities and abilities different than each other and that would compliment each other.
1 Corinthians 14:33 Creator, a god of order not disorder.
1 Co. 11:3 Lists...
Just to be clear, are you telling me that you personally believe that women should be defernetial to men as they are lower down the order of creation?

Corinthians 14:35
And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

NIV uses the word disgrace, KJV uses the word shame. Either way it seems to convey the same meaning to me. So how can you say it is not a matter of disgrace?

You say every word is not supposed to be literal, there seem to be a lot of fundamentalists who would disagree with you.

I thought we should not carry on with this discussion really, but if you want a quick example of a plain contradiction then perhaps you can tell me how Judas died?

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@ j-pax

I think you misunderstood my post. I use a similar skew to you. Just that, when I made that post, cable had been in a fairly tight range for a while and every time I tried to add to an attack it would turn against me.
  • #10,388
  • Sep 11, 2009 9:53pm Sep 11, 2009 9:53pm
maybe you are right
  • #10,389
  • Edited Sep 12, 2009 8:12am Sep 11, 2009 11:28pm | Edited Sep 12, 2009 8:12am
Quoting lilpip
I havn't found any can you show me one ?

Dont forget the bible has illustrations, symbolisms, parables so at times its not literal, however when understood it all harmonizes.

Response to your question.
Its not a matter of disgraceful or demeaning but a matter of orderly arrangement.
Gen.2:18 Not good for man to be alone, a compliment was created.
Man not being better but would possess qualities and abilities different than each other and that would compliment each other.
1 Corinthians 14:33 Creator, a god of order not disorder.
1 Co. 11:3 Lists...
Hi lilpip,
I think you have it correct. God has established an order to the universe. Each of us has a role to play, according to His plan. Some will look upon this order and complain of inequalities. That is a foolish thing to do and possibly a terrible sin. For example, I am a man and will never experience the wonder and joy of giving birth, but that is just part of the plan. If you do not like the plan, get over it.
  • #10,390
  • Sep 12, 2009 12:03am Sep 12, 2009 12:03am
It isn't a matter of liking or disliking a plan. The point in question is whether your understanding of the plan (if one actually exists) is correct.

I'd still like to know if you and lilpip actually consider yourself to be on a higher level than women, in some way?

As to you telling me that to complain about inequalities in what you believe to be God's plan, is a terrible sin...you maybe need to study your Bible a little more. It is not for you to judge whether another man's actions are sinful or not - not if you believe what is written in the Bible.
  • #10,391
  • Sep 12, 2009 2:30am Sep 12, 2009 2:30am
Quoting ukmanthailan
Just to be clear, are you telling me that you personally believe that women should be defernetial to men as they are lower down the order of creation?

Corinthians 14:35
And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

NIV uses the word disgrace, KJV uses the word shame. Either way it seems to convey the same meaning to me. So how can you say it is not a matter of disgrace?

You say every word is not supposed to be literal, there seem to be a lot of fundamentalists who...
Woman is equal to man however man takes the lead as he loves his wife as his own body.

The principle is subjection and order.
Although she may contribute to upbuilding the congregation by her expressions she should not raise objections or have disagreements with the teachings and try to teach in the meeting place is not showing humility or modesty, (yes a woman lacking modesty and humility in a serious place of worship is disgraceful ). She should raise these questions at home.

Let them disagree.

Judas Iscariot briefly
Matthew 27:5 tells us the mode, he hung himself.
Acts 1:18 gives results as mentions he burst open and his intestines were poured out as he fell to rocks below .
  • #10,392
  • Sep 12, 2009 4:08am Sep 12, 2009 4:08am
Quoting pete.alfa
i will check your profile to see if you started the journal. i will be following it for my learning... thank you in advance

HI J-Pax,
If you want to look at my journal I'm sure you look at Lusan & GEfx journals they are very interesting, Look at their charts, the reason why they entried, what were they thinking at that time? Learn from their winning and also mistaking.
Again Thanks Lusan & GEfx, your journals are very good.

J-Pax, You are much more advance for me, your skews are up to...
hello pete,

i sure had a look at lusans journal i did not know GEfx had one. thank you for pointing me i their direction. i will do what you say.

no way i am advance and certainly chicken. that is why i am happy to trade with oanda. i have a 100 dollar acount wich is now 90 because i used 50$ as first entry this was bad for my mindset. last 2 weeks i use 10$. that is why i am better capitalized, relatively speaking. i have a much better feeling about my dance practice, that basicly what i wanted to share.

@ukmanthailan. sorry for the misunderstanding about the post u made.

good weeknd to all
even with my eyes open i cannot see everything
  • #10,393
  • Sep 12, 2009 5:22am Sep 12, 2009 5:22am
Quoting j-pax
hello pete,

i sure had a look at lusans journal i did not know GEfx had one. thank you for pointing me i their direction. i will do what you say.

no way i am advance and certainly chicken. that is why i am happy to trade with oanda. i have a 100 dollar acount wich is now 90 because i used 50$ as first entry this was bad for my mindset. last 2 weeks i use 10$. that is why i am better capitalized, relatively speaking. i have a much better feeling about my dance practice, that basicly what i wanted to share.

@ukmanthailan. sorry for the...
Maybe I misunderstand you, but if you have a $100 account, I feel that $50 or $10 is too much for your first trade (scout). At $10 a pip, if price went against you, it would soon wipe out your $100 account. I started my live account with $500 a few years ago and I started trading with 10 cents per pip as part of the learning process. Anyway all the best with your trading. Ray
  • #10,394
  • Sep 12, 2009 5:58am Sep 12, 2009 5:58am
Quoting 1234
Maybe I misunderstand you, but if you have a $100 account, I feel that $50 or $10 is too much for your first trade (scout). At $10 a pip, if price went against you, it would soon wipe out your $100 account. I started my live account with $500 a few years ago and I started trading with 10 cents per pip as part of the learning process. Anyway all the best with your trading. Ray
he didnt mean 10 dollar a pip , he meant 10 units (0.1 cent a unit)...
1000 unit - 1 micro , (10 cents a pip)
To Live is the rarest thing in the world , Most people exist , that is all
  • #10,395
  • Sep 12, 2009 5:59am Sep 12, 2009 5:59am
Quoting j-pax
hello pete,

i sure had a look at lusans journal i did not know GEfx had one. thank you for pointing me i their direction. i will do what you say.

no way i am advance and certainly chicken. that is why i am happy to trade with oanda. i have a 100 dollar acount wich is now 90 because i used 50$ as first entry this was bad for my mindset. last 2 weeks i use 10$. that is why i am better capitalized, relatively speaking. i have a much better feeling about my dance practice, that basicly what i wanted to share.

@ukmanthailan. sorry for the...
If i can... I trade for nearly 2month. (a lot of time..) Now I have 1320USD. The only thing that i care is to trade good. It is not difficult, dont risk much, dont think of why i trade but simply trade my best...You have the power of winning, if you feel it. It is here, believe yourself, but....Know that if you are a rocket, you are a rocket... If you are a car, you are a car, not a rocket... Develop what you are...not what you arent...Stop doing mistakes...if you know, that you do mistakes and arent disciplined, forget trading, it is not for you. If you are able to stop mistakes, you will find, it works, it is going to work... Ask yourself what you are... A rocket? So what are you waiting for?If waiting for cars, than you are not a rocket, not a car, but somebody who wil be unable to trade succesfully.
  • #10,396
  • Sep 12, 2009 6:04am Sep 12, 2009 6:04am
And start to be manniac lover of closing badly developing trades. Love your smal losses. And do it with clear mind. This produces lots of money
  • #10,397
  • Sep 12, 2009 6:04am Sep 12, 2009 6:04am
Quoting lilpip
Woman is equal to man however man takes the lead as he loves his wife as his own body.

The principle is subjection and order.
Although she may contribute to upbuilding the congregation by her expressions she should not raise objections or have disagreements with the teachings and try to teach in the meeting place is not showing humility or modesty, (yes a woman lacking modesty and humility in a serious place of worship is disgraceful ). She should raise these questions at home.

Let them disagree.

Judas Iscariot briefly
Matthew 27:5 tells us...
Just chiming in with my $.02

Woman was created out of man (man created 1st) as was created as a help-mate, as it was deemed man was inadequate in self-existence. Woman was not created as a lesser, but was created in subject Both had roles to play that help each other, Man has the responsibility to care for his bride. In fact the Bible describes them as becoming one flesh. This order can be seen through out God's creation.

In fact the Church is seen as the bride of Christ.

Something to ponder............. God has stated by his law (his own word) that Sin carries a debt, and each of us are responsible to God for our sin debt. No mortal person can pay the debt of another, as they can not pay their own debt of sin. The penalty of sin is death, both physical and spiritual.

In a legal sense, in some cultures, the one exception is that a Husband can assume the debt of a Wife.

Regards,
  • #10,398
  • Sep 12, 2009 6:07am Sep 12, 2009 6:07am
Quoting maheswara
he didnt mean 10 dollar a pip , he meant 10 units (0.1 cent a unit)...
1000 unit - 1 micro , (10 cents a pip)
EXACTLY!
  • #10,399
  • Sep 12, 2009 7:40am Sep 12, 2009 7:40am
Quoting j-pax
hello pete,

i sure had a look at lusans journal i did not know GEfx had one. thank you for pointing me i their direction. i will do what you say.

I suggest spending time with fti's thread. My journal is for posting notes to several friends, and some of the things I do are not part of fti's most generous and excellent trading approach. PLease stick with the master here.
  • #10,400
  • Sep 12, 2009 8:11am Sep 12, 2009 8:11am
Quoting ukmanthailan
It isn't a matter of liking or disliking a plan. The point in question is whether your understanding of the plan (if one actually exists) is correct.

I'd still like to know if you and lilpip actually consider yourself to be on a higher level than women, in some way?

As to you telling me that to complain about inequalities in what you believe to be God's plan, is a terrible sin...you maybe need to study your Bible a little more. It is not for you to judge whether another man's actions are sinful or not - not if you believe what is written in...
I was not judging you, just commenting on the fact that what you are doing may be sinful. It may seem confusing to you, but we are allowed that. You do the checking. As for Judas, shortly after Judgement, I will know if he and Jesus planned the betrayal, or if Judas acted alone. It is one of the mysteries of the Bible, and aguing its finer points here is not a good use of our time.

One of the many reasons I participate in fti's thread is his obvious belief in God, as stated in many of his posts. It gives me the feeling that he and I, although separated by many miles and much cultural differences, share some of the same core values. His position as teacher is elevated and confirmed by those shared beliefs. ukman, would you argue trading techniques with fti? Of course not, to do so would be an insult to him. So, why do you argue about his other contributions to the thread? I believe it is also arrogant and disrespectful to the teacher and host of this thread.

You clearly have a problem with religion and those who practice it. That is ok and your right. None of us here will change your (closed) mind, so the efforts should now stop. May I suggest you open a journal and post your anti-religious stuff there? I will be more than willing to share trading ideas with you, but will now ignore your other posts. I think this thread should get back to things that make for better trading.

Did anyone make any money on Friday? I made one trade on the $/J and got 10 pips, but that is all. Was it me or was the market really flat, at least up until NY fixing?
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