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  • #3,621
  • Edited 12:45am Sep 11, 2009 12:34am | Edited 12:45am
I Hedge My Ace setup trading ( never to much carreful..)

Well, finaly it's perhaps a good idea.... ,



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oup's, sorry, I'd made a mistake 50 lots... wrong calcul
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  • #3,622
  • Sep 11, 2009 12:44am Sep 11, 2009 12:44am
Quoting yen44x
The problem, or blessing (depending on whether you like my jokes or not), is there is a lot of free time on a weekly system, especially when you're stopped out about 17 minutes into the week.
If there is free time, I think it is good time for us to think of why the pin (pips) drop and how is drop.... May be it could help in future. this is bcos market change all the time, 10 years back the volume is in billions only and now it become trillions. So, I believe one system wouldn't work for whole life... upgrade is required to stay profit...
  • #3,623
  • Sep 11, 2009 12:52am Sep 11, 2009 12:52am
Quoting FXLab
The SL of 50 pips is based on forward testing on the GBPJPY pair. .
thanks, I understand better why . I think that stats is effectivly the way to explore how to reduce the actual DD, and this way is not absolutly the SL.

I think we have find the corrélation with the volatily known in front of small and High pip wins, and the same in front of smal and hight losses.
  • #3,624
  • Sep 11, 2009 1:06am Sep 11, 2009 1:06am
Quoting yen44x
I was about to say this thread is so quiet you could hear a pin drop, but then I did some research and found out . . . .
Now I know why I like you so much. You hear things before they happen.

Most people don't even hear the pin drop!!!

Just love your... oops getting too personal. Everyone join in --- why do we (I) love Yen?? Who is Yen anyway???

dr
  • #3,625
  • Sep 11, 2009 1:09am Sep 11, 2009 1:09am
Quoting droland
Just love your... oops getting too personal.
dr
Don't worry Dave, I love my "..." too.
Greetings from Guanajuato, Mexico
  • #3,626
  • Sep 11, 2009 1:18am Sep 11, 2009 1:18am
Quoting pips info
If there is free time, I think it is good time for us to think of why the pin (pips) drop and how is drop.... May be it could help in future. this is bcos market change all the time, 10 years back the volume is in billions only and now it become trillions. So, I believe one system wouldn't work for whole life... upgrade is required to stay profit...
Hi, ok with you to find the way, of course ,to hone the Ace Setup. it's The target of this thread.

As for my sensibility, I don't think so that the question is to find why the market drop. It is not in the philosophy of this kind of setup. We just look at the prices. All Break -out system exist for ever because it is the nerf and the blood of humans beiing, cupidity and scare get us run..
So, that we have to find, in the prices, is in its mouvement before the door of our setup entry,
- what are the fact witch are able to tell us that the market is too hesitant, - or too sleepy to make a long way, so choosing a little target.
- Or that will say us, to not going into the market this 4h barre, or this day.

Thank's for your advice about this.
  • #3,627
  • Sep 11, 2009 1:19am Sep 11, 2009 1:19am
Quoting yen44x
Don't worry Dave, I love my "..." too.
Yen, I just have to have a Dos Equis with you before I get too stupid. Your mind is just too fertile (and interesting). It is extremely rare. I love it.

dr
  • #3,628
  • Sep 11, 2009 1:25am Sep 11, 2009 1:25am
Quoting droland
Yen, I just have to have a Dos Equis with you before I get too stupid. Your mind is just too fertile (and interesting). It is extremely rare. I love it.

dr
Dos Equis is fine, but wait until you try a Negra Modelo.

C'mon down! Then, we can get stupid together.
Greetings from Guanajuato, Mexico
  • #3,629
  • Sep 11, 2009 1:29am Sep 11, 2009 1:29am
Quoting yen44x
Dos Equis is fine, but wait until you try a Negra Modelo.

C'mon down! Then, we can get stupid together.
Oh what a tease.

Never never offer what you don't expect. Be careful... don't look behind you?? Just when you don't expect it ...!!

dr
  • #3,630
  • Sep 11, 2009 1:38am Sep 11, 2009 1:38am
Quoting droland
Oh what a tease.

Never never offer what you don't expect. Be careful... don't look behind you?? Just when you don't expect it ...!!

dr
Hey, you're always welcome. (nothing more than a man hug, boys and girls).

I'm in a hospitable mood . . . why, I think I'll call shiko too right now and . . . yikes, uh, never mind.
Greetings from Guanajuato, Mexico
  • #3,631
  • Sep 11, 2009 1:45am Sep 11, 2009 1:45am
Quoting yen44x
Hey, you're always welcome. (nothing more than a man hug, boys and girls).

I'm in a hospitable mood . . . why, I think I'll call shiko too right now and . . . yikes, uh, never mind.
Just when you thought it was safe..............
  • #3,632
  • Sep 11, 2009 1:58am Sep 11, 2009 1:58am
Quoting yen44x
Dos Equis is fine, but wait until you try a Negra Modelo.

C'mon down! Then, we can get stupid together.
As Forest Gump says, "stupid is as stupid does".. My friend, CR has some excellent beers as well - Imperial/Bavaria.

You will always be welcome. You have to get accustomed to Burro's - Oh god sorry, you've already had sxx with them,, You will really fit in.

Just kidding - I hope!!

dr
  • #3,633
  • Sep 11, 2009 2:36am Sep 11, 2009 2:36am
Quoting droland
As Forest Gump says, "stupid is as stupid does".. My friend, CR has some excellent beers as well - Imperial/Bavaria.

You will always be welcome. You have to get accustomed to Burro's - Oh god sorry, you've already had sxx with them,, You will really fit in. Just kidding - I hope!!

dr
With some beers, it's love at first taste . . . with others, I've noticed it takes at least a 6-pack to fall in love with them. At any rate, they're all excellent . . . eventually.

In regard to the burros, it's strictly . . . "don't ask, don't tell."
Greetings from Guanajuato, Mexico
  • #3,634
  • Sep 11, 2009 7:33am Sep 11, 2009 7:33am
Quoting yen44x
Dos Equis is fine, but wait until you try a Negra Modelo.

C'mon down! Then, we can get stupid together.
Dos Equis Amber is my favorite beer. Is Negra Modelo just as nice?
  • #3,635
  • Sep 11, 2009 8:45am Sep 11, 2009 8:45am
Quoting wrenski
Dos Equis Amber is my favorite beer. Is Negra Modelo just as nice?
Wrenski . . . are you in the Witness Protection Program? Every time I look, you've got a new signature . . .

"Member in good standings"

"Outstanding in my field" (kinda reminds me of the cows back on the dairy farm)

And, yes, if you like a dark, creamy beer, Negra Modelo is, uh, outstanding in its field.
Greetings from Guanajuato, Mexico
  • #3,636
  • Sep 11, 2009 8:47am Sep 11, 2009 8:47am
Quoting yen44x
Wrenski . . . are you in the Witness Protection Program? Every time I look, you've got a new signature . . .
"Member in good standings"
"Outstanding in my field" (kinda reminds me of the cows back on the dairy farm)

And, yes, if you like a dark, creamy beer, Negra Modelo is, uh, outstanding in its field.
I am like a farmer....outstanding in my field. I just haven't figured out what field I belong in. Thanks for the beer recommendation, I'll try it.
  • #3,637
  • Sep 11, 2009 8:53am Sep 11, 2009 8:53am
Quoting wrenski
I am like a farmer....outstanding in my field. I just haven't figured out what field I belong in. Thanks for the beer recommendation, I'll try it.
Ice cold, my old friend, ice cold.

BTW, Bonita sends her regards. Ramona's still a little ticked . . . something about you skipping out on a fare or something.
Greetings from Guanajuato, Mexico
  • #3,638
  • Sep 11, 2009 8:53am Sep 11, 2009 8:53am
Hi Ace. Thanks for this thread. Well done for spotting bar as Jahual. Bar plus cent soixante treize est il nom nouveau quand il vend. Excuse the schoolboy French. I treasure the email I received from Twee about him.

Yen; you're a gem, particularly for your ability to rtp out of Shiko. It's not often I get a laugh from reading a FF thread, but you manage it frequently. And your posts are both authoritative and informative.

Droland; thanks for all your thoughts. The sound basis of your ideas is helpful, and they're expressed with a good deal of clarity.

I'm UK based, so I use the UK Spread Betting companies for tax reasons. I'm happy to use their charts also, and I don't worry why my orders differ by a couple of pips from anyone else's. If I was concerned about any discrepancies I'd download a demo version of FXDD. Or take Ace's figures from his weekly post. BTW Ace, your restriction on posts on Sundays is a great idea.

Not being a mathematician I've observed the ongoing discussions about the relative merits of targetting TP1, TP2, etc, and the various strategies for maximising profits through moving SLs and differing lot sizes with interest, but not total understanding. I have no challenge to issue to the guys who are trying to hone this aspect of the system; I simply target 200 pips on the GU with an initial SL of 100 pips and move the Stop to BE when the trade has made 100 pips. It's a halfway house between Set & Forget and watching it like a hawk, and it suits me.

Wish I could contribute more to the thread but the driving forces here are way ahead of me. It's the maths thing; I really should have stuck it at school instead of plunking off after 5 years.

Good luck guys. I think we should be through the doldrums soon. We've had 'Sell in May and go away' and the school holidays and Labor Day. It can't be long now.

Cheers from Brochty.

Bal

PS. Yen, you should try Old Speckled Hen or London Pride, 2 of the best beers (ales) you're ever likely to taste.
The dream will never die
  • #3,639
  • Edited 9:43am Sep 11, 2009 9:03am | Edited 9:43am
Quoting Brotyboy
Yen; you're a gem, particularly for your ability to rtp out of Shiko. It's not often I get a laugh from reading a FF thread, but you manage it frequently. And your posts are both authoritative and informative.

PS. Yen, you should try Old Speckled Hen or London Pride, 2 of the best beers (ales) you're ever likely to taste.
Bal . . . thanks for the kind words. I hardly have time any more for the authoritative and informative posts . . . it's a full-time job just keeping Shiko on a leash. BTW, just 20 days until October and the return of you-know-who from vacation. (Actually, Shiko, if you're checking in (and I know you're checking in), you know I just like to tease you . . . nothing more . . . probably).

I'll have to give London Pride a try. I have Old Speckled Hen frequently . . . it's just that here in Mexico, they serve it on a plate and call it Pollo Frito Viejo (Old Fried Chicken).
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  • #3,640
  • Edited 9:34am Sep 11, 2009 9:09am | Edited 9:34am
Quoting yen44x
Ice cold, my old friend, ice cold.

BTW, Bonita sends her regards. Ramona's still a little ticked . . . something about you skipping out on a fare or something.
Ahhh, Ramona....she still holds a special place in my heart. Tell her I will settled up the next time I am down south.
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