Hello and very thanks to all.
How trade breakout AcE method on M1?
A thousand thank.
DarkDay.
P.S.
KIDDING!
How trade breakout AcE method on M1?
A thousand thank.
DarkDay.
P.S.
KIDDING!
- #3,362
- Sep 6, 2009 6:17pm Sep 6, 2009 6:17pm
- Joined May 2008 | Status: Trader | 1,158 Posts
Yonnie . . . it's probably just a lack of coffee, or tequila, or something, but I'm not following that explanation. Obviously, every loss during that time not only went 58 pips into the box, but went all the way to the other end of the box.
What am I missing (besides good looks, intelligence, etc.
Ofcourse you never know beforehand when this will happen, so I took all initial SL`s in account on all first trades in the period 22 Feb - 14 June 2009.
- #3,363
- Sep 6, 2009 6:28pm Sep 6, 2009 6:28pm
I know some of you are anxiously waiting for the new variation. I thought about posting it today but my hesitation was there because of the sellers. Mainly because we caught an ebay seller yesterday, and then another seller today, as you all saw, who uses multiple usernames here. I know they're always lurking around, but it becomes a pain especially when I have to deal with it on consecutive days.
Obviously there's are two sides. The other being the great improvements we get here. The fantastic backtesting results, risk management variations and so on.
I see a bunch of different money management methods floating around here as well which I commend.
Unfortunately, I won't be posting the variation right now. Another reason being that I want to get at least one live trade under my belt with this new approach. Also want to refine the testing to remove mistakes in calculations.
On a brighter note, the improvements here do outweigh the sellers so I will post the variation soon. Most likely another thread, so be on the lookout for that.
The method is here, it won't expire or anything
***
Anyway, the candle for this week started forming 2 and a half hours ago. As always I'll post the chart when its done.
Obviously there's are two sides. The other being the great improvements we get here. The fantastic backtesting results, risk management variations and so on.
I see a bunch of different money management methods floating around here as well which I commend.
Unfortunately, I won't be posting the variation right now. Another reason being that I want to get at least one live trade under my belt with this new approach. Also want to refine the testing to remove mistakes in calculations.
On a brighter note, the improvements here do outweigh the sellers so I will post the variation soon. Most likely another thread, so be on the lookout for that.
The method is here, it won't expire or anything
***
Anyway, the candle for this week started forming 2 and a half hours ago. As always I'll post the chart when its done.
- #3,364
- Edited 6:55pm Sep 6, 2009 6:32pm | Edited 6:55pm
Hi Thread.. ( this heard like “FRED” in French, so that is how I mean this moving aera, a “global brain” named Fred ! 51 years but a little crasy on the hedge , but who are not here, triing catching the innaccessible Star.. )
Well, I Code myself and as I’ve said in my first post, eveybody would like to have less SL and more big SP.
Ace284 BreakHeaven System needs oxygen as far as it runs on UT4 and for a week.
My pleasir if you accept to open your mind just for a while. I’m new here , but not in trading even in EA MQL4, and I’m so happy to find a Forum as I had tried to make with other traders in france : brains all together making a good job for all participant of FRED.. but all of them like olds miserly men hided that finaly was nothing and stay alone and loosers.
Thanks again for this, so I really hope I could participate with you here and after this job done again for another aventure..
Well as we know that system need air to grow up , the first simple way is to reduce the position for a half we did and give 100 more pips to our the SL : BOX + 100 .
The ratio of win would be perhaps more near 80%. ( not verify just to explain) ,
let’s stop yell guys .., there is more money to catch..we know that but more profit without loss decrease a lot Draw Down and DD it is like we wouldn’t win money but just loan it for a time, and then you’ll have to give it back to the market..
So we are able certainly to find a middle way like that.
Everybody knows that but nobody accepts to make it..
The second way , that is the point of this post is :
There is a statistic way possible and that way answer to Pharoah who is right too, and so the others : system aren’t be able to run every monthes ,years, like in the beginning of 2009 but, by the way there is one way that specialists use really, it is statistic.
With an EA , and so for the system from ACE, you throw out the stress, and all the human beiing that cause 90% losses. So , just pile or face, growing up or down.. immediately you have 50% chance win and 50 % chance loss. Normaly, in fact, all system would have to begin at this minimum of chance..
One simple thing that I make is to look at the max tips that we’ld be able to take in the best word each week.. you can say [week range( – Box -1 spread)] in a strong trend, or like this month the same divise by two, half to the high, half to the low. (hight-box or box-low)
But just let’s have the best pip by week somebody had put on the thread these max pips possible for three monthes as I remember.
I took them for the exemple
After that, let’s put them in a colone decrease, 0 to 1000 …
In first colonn the pips by week from 0 to hight
Second colonn is the number of time the amount of pip has been touched :
886 has been touched 1 time, but this time all the other steps was passing trought : 1 x 20, 1x 110, 1x 120;…1 x 614 to be able to arrive to 886. so we find how much each level has been passing thrue ( so where each target would be touched).
The third colonn the number of time that the pip was passing thrue multiplied by the level of the pip give us the possible total of pips that would be possible to win here : 212 has been touched 13 times , so if 212 has been our Stop profit we should win 212 x 13= 2756 pips…
(it is to understanding, but in fact, we have to sort them first by date and decrease)
Max pip sort // x- thru inside // total pip win if.. .
020.x.. 20.=. 0400
110.... 19.... 2090
120.... 18.... 2160
125.... 17 ....2125
137.... 16.... 2192
170.... 15.... 2550
180.... 14.... 2520
212.... 13.... 2756
250.... 12.... 3000
318.... 11.... 3498
356.... 10.... 3560
360.... 09.... 3240
513.... 08.... 4104
530.... 07.... 3710
560.... 06.... 3360
570.... 05.... 2850
583.... 04.... 2332
614.... 03.... 1842
637.... 02.... 1274
886.... 01.... 0886
So the result of that it is that we have to find the best stop loss to not be out before going to the good way and like the winner is 514 which giving us 4104 pips, perhaps put our SP to 450 or 318
This the idea, buy it is the way the pro used too : permanent’s statistic.
Like this, as first principal basic of Ace system , we would be able to let the system running with oxygen and climbing to the hit.
An another way to , would be to make a relation between the possible high winning pip and the thickness of the range : there is a rapport. ( or the range of the week before)..
Ans as Pharaoah told, making that ofen with three, four or six monthes before we would able to follow the market.
Thank’s to think about that. Sorry to have no private time for the moment to make more, but, I was so atonished to see the generosity of Ace and so on after the work of everybody that I wanted to thank’s as I can if this can help as helping me too .
Scan
Just say, I'm new in your forum but not a professionel, and enven less an Ebay resellers
), trading since 10 years, I have a restaurant in Papeete wich will be sell in one month ( at least) and I'll be able to trade full of time. to proof that ( I don't put here here to not seems to want pass an annonce to sell my restaurant) I can give you my blog where there is picture of my restaurant to sell.) just to go faster in the confiance.
Well, I Code myself and as I’ve said in my first post, eveybody would like to have less SL and more big SP.
Ace284 BreakHeaven System needs oxygen as far as it runs on UT4 and for a week.
My pleasir if you accept to open your mind just for a while. I’m new here , but not in trading even in EA MQL4, and I’m so happy to find a Forum as I had tried to make with other traders in france : brains all together making a good job for all participant of FRED.. but all of them like olds miserly men hided that finaly was nothing and stay alone and loosers.
Thanks again for this, so I really hope I could participate with you here and after this job done again for another aventure..
Well as we know that system need air to grow up , the first simple way is to reduce the position for a half we did and give 100 more pips to our the SL : BOX + 100 .
The ratio of win would be perhaps more near 80%. ( not verify just to explain) ,
let’s stop yell guys .., there is more money to catch..we know that but more profit without loss decrease a lot Draw Down and DD it is like we wouldn’t win money but just loan it for a time, and then you’ll have to give it back to the market..
So we are able certainly to find a middle way like that.
Everybody knows that but nobody accepts to make it..
The second way , that is the point of this post is :
There is a statistic way possible and that way answer to Pharoah who is right too, and so the others : system aren’t be able to run every monthes ,years, like in the beginning of 2009 but, by the way there is one way that specialists use really, it is statistic.
With an EA , and so for the system from ACE, you throw out the stress, and all the human beiing that cause 90% losses. So , just pile or face, growing up or down.. immediately you have 50% chance win and 50 % chance loss. Normaly, in fact, all system would have to begin at this minimum of chance..
One simple thing that I make is to look at the max tips that we’ld be able to take in the best word each week.. you can say [week range( – Box -1 spread)] in a strong trend, or like this month the same divise by two, half to the high, half to the low. (hight-box or box-low)
But just let’s have the best pip by week somebody had put on the thread these max pips possible for three monthes as I remember.
I took them for the exemple
After that, let’s put them in a colone decrease, 0 to 1000 …
In first colonn the pips by week from 0 to hight
Second colonn is the number of time the amount of pip has been touched :
886 has been touched 1 time, but this time all the other steps was passing trought : 1 x 20, 1x 110, 1x 120;…1 x 614 to be able to arrive to 886. so we find how much each level has been passing thrue ( so where each target would be touched).
The third colonn the number of time that the pip was passing thrue multiplied by the level of the pip give us the possible total of pips that would be possible to win here : 212 has been touched 13 times , so if 212 has been our Stop profit we should win 212 x 13= 2756 pips…
(it is to understanding, but in fact, we have to sort them first by date and decrease)
Max pip sort // x- thru inside // total pip win if.. .
020.x.. 20.=. 0400
110.... 19.... 2090
120.... 18.... 2160
125.... 17 ....2125
137.... 16.... 2192
170.... 15.... 2550
180.... 14.... 2520
212.... 13.... 2756
250.... 12.... 3000
318.... 11.... 3498
356.... 10.... 3560
360.... 09.... 3240
513.... 08.... 4104
530.... 07.... 3710
560.... 06.... 3360
570.... 05.... 2850
583.... 04.... 2332
614.... 03.... 1842
637.... 02.... 1274
886.... 01.... 0886
So the result of that it is that we have to find the best stop loss to not be out before going to the good way and like the winner is 514 which giving us 4104 pips, perhaps put our SP to 450 or 318
This the idea, buy it is the way the pro used too : permanent’s statistic.
Like this, as first principal basic of Ace system , we would be able to let the system running with oxygen and climbing to the hit.
An another way to , would be to make a relation between the possible high winning pip and the thickness of the range : there is a rapport. ( or the range of the week before)..
Ans as Pharaoah told, making that ofen with three, four or six monthes before we would able to follow the market.
Thank’s to think about that. Sorry to have no private time for the moment to make more, but, I was so atonished to see the generosity of Ace and so on after the work of everybody that I wanted to thank’s as I can if this can help as helping me too .
Scan
Just say, I'm new in your forum but not a professionel, and enven less an Ebay resellers
), trading since 10 years, I have a restaurant in Papeete wich will be sell in one month ( at least) and I'll be able to trade full of time. to proof that ( I don't put here here to not seems to want pass an annonce to sell my restaurant) I can give you my blog where there is picture of my restaurant to sell.) just to go faster in the confiance. 
Unfortunately, I won't be posting the variation right now. Another reason being that I want to get at least one live trade under my belt with this new approach. Also want to refine the testing to remove mistakes in calculations.
On a brighter note, the improvements here do outweigh the sellers so I will post the variation soon. Most likely another thread, so be on the lookout for that.
The method is here, it won't expire or anything
Hi Ace, I will be patience but pls....
........don't take too long....it's killing...lol
- #3,370
- Sep 6, 2009 6:56pm Sep 6, 2009 6:56pm
- Joined May 2008 | Status: Trader | 1,158 Posts
Ace,
I can see you`re getting really stressed about the sellers of your system having to check on them daily and here are some of my thoughts.
1. you let them be.....yes they`ll make some money initially but after having a volatile market for more than 2 years which you need for this system, I can visualize that a ranging market wont be far off.
after that only the tough ones will keep going and your system will lose its flavour with the beginning buyer of your system.
2. you delegate.....I`m sure some reliable people here will be more than willing to locate the offenders while you concentrate on your system.
dont know how many sites needs checking, but if each person checks 1-5 sites each day its a breeze.
I`m volunteering!
any other ideas?
I can see you`re getting really stressed about the sellers of your system having to check on them daily and here are some of my thoughts.
1. you let them be.....yes they`ll make some money initially but after having a volatile market for more than 2 years which you need for this system, I can visualize that a ranging market wont be far off.
after that only the tough ones will keep going and your system will lose its flavour with the beginning buyer of your system.
2. you delegate.....I`m sure some reliable people here will be more than willing to locate the offenders while you concentrate on your system.
dont know how many sites needs checking, but if each person checks 1-5 sites each day its a breeze.
I`m volunteering!
any other ideas?
