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  • #541
  • Sep 3, 2009 1:51am Sep 3, 2009 1:51am
All this ranting by the Turtle-Soldiers is such a turn-off.

Don't expect to even be taken seriously, let alone win converts.
  • #542
  • Sep 3, 2009 2:28am Sep 3, 2009 2:28am
Quoting FXSurfer
All this ranting by the Turtle-Soldiers is such a turn-off.

Don't expect to even be taken seriously, let alone win converts.

Hahaha, yes - very true.

Now, since I had a little time, I read the thread again from the beginning and what had slipped my attention the first time makes this whole thread quite amusing.

The amount of what I can only guess to be fake members of FF screaming to be mentored in all sorts of foreign dialects is hilarious. We are all part of this elaborate advertising campaign.

And when you think the joke is finally dead, the OP comes up and pastes a fresh revival post made from previous comments - and even worse, gullible morons like myself just bite and reply in order to cause a new wave of glorifying blabber about that special kind'a guy - the secret (well, not so secret after all) weapon in the fight against busted newbie-accounts.

Nevertheless, I don't want to spoil the party - that leaves me only to say that I sincerely wish everyone to get what they want from it, good or bad.

regards
daytrading
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  • #543
  • Sep 3, 2009 2:38am Sep 3, 2009 2:38am
Sharp wit this morning DT
  • #544
  • Sep 3, 2009 2:46am Sep 3, 2009 2:46am
Quoting fxtrader29
The questions that anyone who was looking for a mentor would ask.

This post is to counter 154 posts in this thread by jealous troll who is trying to ruin a respected trader's reputation by lies and innuendo.

Has the trader proven himself to be a profitable trader in real time live trading on a public forum where there were no edits allowed and every trade was scrutinised

http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost.php?p=1431044&postcount=85...
I want to congrat you for this post. A crank was obviously trying to repeatedly defame another trader. I was amazed that the moderators didn't stop the troll from repeatedly posting his innuendos and being a nuisance.
154 repeated slurs by a person with personality and psychological problems against a trader here is disgusting and should not be acceptable
  • #545
  • Sep 3, 2009 2:55am Sep 3, 2009 2:55am
Quoting rendezvous65
I want to congrat you for this post. A crank was obviously trying to repeatedly defame another trader. I was amazed that the moderators didn't stop the troll from repeatedly posting his innuendos and being a nuisance.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.......another one - where do they all come from?? There must be a nest somewhere - this one has only 2 posts under the belt and deems it necessary to pump it up by locating one of the most meaningless threads on the factory, leaving an even more meaningless post.

regards
daytrading
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  • #546
  • Sep 3, 2009 3:04am Sep 3, 2009 3:04am
Quoting rendezvous65
I want to congrat you for this post. A crank was obviously trying to repeatedly defame another trader. I was amazed that the moderators didn't stop the troll from repeatedly posting his innuendos and being a nuisance.
154 repeated slurs by a person with personality and psychological problems against a trader here is disgusting and should not be acceptable
Crank, troll, nuisance, personality and psychological problems......and those are my good points!

I take it there's no point in me sending you an invitation to my fan club? No, right......
  • #547
  • Sep 3, 2009 3:07am Sep 3, 2009 3:07am
Quoting daytrading
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.......another one - where do they all come from?? There must be a nest somewhere - this one has only 2 posts under the belt and deems it necessary to pump it up by locating one of the most meaningless threads on the factory, leaving an even more meaningless post.

regards
daytrading
I've a lurker here for a long time. But what pipmutt is saying and doing is wrong. Its disgusting to see. That is the reason I finally wrote a post.
  • #548
  • Sep 3, 2009 3:14am Sep 3, 2009 3:14am
Really? I think he's showed remarkable restraint. Never once took the bait. Never retorted or resorted to insult. You could hardly say the same about some others on this thread. And these people who can't control their emotions and start flapping about a debate on an internet forum want to be traders!
  • #549
  • Sep 3, 2009 4:22am Sep 3, 2009 4:22am
Quoting Limstylz
Thanks for the explanation and the reading recommendation. I'm not sure how it fitted into the discussion either...
One way it fits is that just because your trading account has never been wiped out, that is not proof that it won't be wiped out in the absolutely unforseeable future.

A Black Swan event is by definition unpredictable and it tends to produce catastrophic results. See things like Barings Bank, LTCM, the recent Wall Street crisis, etc for they are Black Swan events to one degree or another.

Taleb thinks we should be humble in our trading because he believes a lot of trading success is probably luck and survivorship bias

For me, the key thing I took away from Taleb's books is to always think about all possibilities of what you do. We tend to dismiss the really negative things that might have an miniscule chance of happening, but you need to think about what will happen to you if it does happen. In this is applicable in everything, not just trading.
  • #550
  • Sep 3, 2009 4:31am Sep 3, 2009 4:31am
Quoting Dopey

For me, the key thing I took away from Taleb's books is to always think about all possibilities of what you do. We tend to dismiss the really negative things that might have an miniscule chance of happening, but you need to think about what will happen to you if it does happen. In this is applicable in everything, not just trading.
All good sober points from Dopey, as you would expect. The main thing i took from both Taleb's books was that i hope i never meet him (Taleb, not Dopey) at a party
  • #551
  • Sep 3, 2009 4:43am Sep 3, 2009 4:43am
Quoting GubyIQ
what do you mean by that ? i think no one in his right mind would think now to fork over $700 to a guy who is not capable of debating his own affirmations.
not to mention paying to be "colleagues" with such pitiful specimens as the groupies who wandered around this thread.
i was being sarcastic
  • #552
  • Sep 3, 2009 4:45am Sep 3, 2009 4:45am
Quoting Dopey
A Black Swan event is by definition unpredictable and it tends to produce catastrophic results.
Thanks for the detailed explanation, Dopey. However, the poster said that I had been 'black swaned'. I'm not sure how that relates to what you've just posted either.

Sounds like a barrel of laughs, this Taleb.
  • #553
  • Sep 3, 2009 4:55am Sep 3, 2009 4:55am
I feel extremely embarrassed by what I have read in this thread, posted by some of my Jacko 'brethren' (I refuse to use the word turtle... why would I compare myself to one of those?)

There are some of us who can be objective and not affected by external stimulus. Please do not put me in the same box as you will obviously have put them. One can't choose 'family'.

Their attitude reflects poorly on Jacko, I think he might be a little embarrassed also were he to read this thread.

That is all...
  • #554
  • Sep 3, 2009 5:07am Sep 3, 2009 5:07am
Quoting Limstylz
I feel extremely embarrassed by what I have read in this thread, posted by some of my Jacko 'brethren' (I refuse to use the word turtle... why would I compare myself to one of those?)

There are some of us who can be objective and not affected by external stimulus. Please do not put me in the same box as you will obviously have put them. One can't choose 'family'.

Their attitude reflects poorly on Jacko, I think he might be a little embarrassed also were he to read this thread.

That is all...
No worries, who am I to judge anyone? It's only a thread in a forum, you only know me by my avatar and frankly, you should not give a monkey's toss about what people say in here on a personal level.

Take with you what you find of value and enjoy a friendly banter - the Dalai Lama (who I have great respect for) teaches to respect others regardless - even if their view's vary (sometimes drastically) from your own.

With that motto in mind, I hope nobody got too offended by my small contributions to a thread that has attracted more visitors than a Mr Whippy on a pavement would attract flies on a hot summers day.

regards
daytrading
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  • #555
  • Sep 3, 2009 5:30am Sep 3, 2009 5:30am
Quoting Limstylz
Their attitude reflects poorly on Jacko, I think he might be a little embarrassed also were he to read this thread.

Jacko actually contributed to it, in both senses, his replies go some way to understanding the mentality behind some of the other posts in this thread.

I hope I would never put people into boxes, I try and take people as I find them. As I mentioned before, in my opinion (without wanting to sound patronizing) you come across as a sensible person who makes informed decisions and going by posts from some other Jacko subscribers far from the 'average'.

Some people seem to be wearing the 'Jacko Member' badge with pride, perhaps justifiably, unfortunately due to some member's comments membership could quite easily be seen as a stigma rather than an honour!

As DT quite rightly said, at the end of the day it's just an anonymous internet forum, does any of it really matter?
  • #556
  • Sep 3, 2009 5:40am Sep 3, 2009 5:40am
I guess what I meant was, I didn't want you to disregard any future contributions I might make to threads of 'value', just because I signed up to Jacko's program.

You are quite correct, your opinion of me personally means little, hence the reason I refuse to be drawn into arguments with certain individuals on different threads and forums.
  • #557
  • Sep 3, 2009 6:08am Sep 3, 2009 6:08am
Judge posts on the merit of the content, not on the author, that's why personal attacks which try and shoot the messenger instead of the message are so futile and pointless.
  • #558
  • Sep 3, 2009 6:28am Sep 3, 2009 6:28am
Quoting Limstylz
I guess what I meant was, I didn't want you to disregard any future contributions I might make to threads of 'value', just because I signed up to Jacko's program.

You are quite correct, your opinion of me personally means little, hence the reason I refuse to be drawn into arguments with certain individuals on different threads and forums.
Limstylz,

I would be a rather lousy judge of character (when asked to be), if I dismissed any valuable content of your past (or future) contribution on the basis of your associations.

As you may have gathered from my posts in this particular thread, I am not (and never was) a potential candidate for any of the guy's business solicitations, whether they are in any way reputable or complete humbug.

I suppose we all get sucked into pointless conversations at times against our own better judgement, perhaps for inexplicable egocentric and psychological reasons - or simple because we fail to understand the 'lemming's attititude' in other people and desperately want to 'help'.

If we meet in any other thread, rest assured that if you have a valuable point, I will not disregard you.

regards
daytrading
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  • #559
  • Sep 3, 2009 8:28am Sep 3, 2009 8:28am
I am curious as to how long to advocates of Jacko have actually been trading with him. I apologize if this has been covered but to me the only important thing in this business is staying power and being successful over the long term. Anybody can get lucky for several months in a row. So for the turtles still reading this thread how long have you all been with Jacko? Thanks

Sean
  • #560
  • Sep 3, 2009 9:08am Sep 3, 2009 9:08am
I suppose it's wishful thinking to consider turning this thread back toward the title--Forex Mentors-The Best Investment You Can Make?

Daytrading: I'd like to know what your definition of a good mentor is, or if you even believe there is such a thing. This isn't a challenge. Your posts tend to go a few layers deeper than most and I, along with others, value your opinion. And maybe you could tell us a little about how you became a trader. I'm convinced that you're successful and it would be interesting to know a little about the road you traveled getting there. Surely you've benefitted from some sharp characters along the way.

This thread hasn't really brushed up against the idea of a more traditional mentor, one who selects his student(s) for reasons of his own and meets with them in person. One who may give his student(s) projects or assignments or actual work to do based on what they've been taught thus far, making the student(s) prove they are prepared for the next step.

This isn't intended to slight Jacko, or his program, or to question the value of his service. We've had a few enjoyable chats, but I've never discussed his method or service with him so it would be pointless for me to discuss it here. This is just a reminder that there are other types of mentors. I guess I'm old enough to remember how things were done before the internet.

Bill
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