Thank you for your answer.
Opening a thread and supervising people seems to me that there is a kind of responsibility. But if you think you owe nothing to anyone than it shall be.
Some posts before I wrote that I'm a teacher teaching nurses. I feel a kind of responsibility to my students. Perhaps we don't agree at that point.
Have a good time and all the best to you
- #8,202
- Edited 4:28pm Aug 28, 2009 3:25pm | Edited 4:28pm
- Joined Aug 2007 | Status: TARFU... | 7,015 Posts
Well... the Bin anyway.
It's been fun, sorta, but gotta real life to get back to... so my Farewell word to The Mob anonymously insisting edgetrader is the antichrist incarnate... even if you're correct on every point about his 'so you say' shyster dealings, there's no 'Scammer' without 'Scamees' and your continued vilification of him only empahsizes your own incredible shortcomings in the areas of common sense and/or due diligence.
There's other words that might be more appropriate to use, but I'm trying to be nice and give everybody the benefit of my considerable Doubt on this whole thing...
I'd be curious to know how many of you either got scammed before this (if scam there was) or didn't learn your lesson and got scammed yet again by someone else. Anybody care to throw out those stats along with all the other meticulously detailed garbage you keep slinging in here.
Wait, it's the Bin... no rules and no holds barred! No standard of proof required either... but wait again!! That was all going on before it got binned...
This 'trueblue' joker come lately almost takes the prize... fiendishly ripped off and scammed by someone named Keith who we're to believe he knew from the beginning is edgetrader, curiously accepting of his 'losses' yet inclined to write it off and move on ((maybe shoulda held that thought dude...)), now sitting back "just watching the fireworks with no intention to post", following along blow by wretched blow wading thru countless posts full of pi$$ and vinegar but somehow 'above it all'...
...suddenly getting his BUTTON PUSHED! when he reads the line about the funds getting disbursed (http://www.forexfactory.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=3000902) and RISING UP! offa that couch breathin' suphur and brimstone, locked, loaded, and ready to tear someone a new one... It's a good thing someone didn't say something that REALLY set him off...
truetexblue, trying to make up for lost time doesn't make you sound any less pathetic...
Anyway, like I said 'almost' takes the prize... There's just too much competition here for any single person to Clearly Ring the Bell. You guys are all grubbing a'rd in the Bin Slime convinced that if you scream Loud and Long enough, the 
might notice and do... i dunno... nothing? 
Edgetrader clearly violated the FF username rule (my only beef with him atm) and as of right now is still able to post here under that name... Had he not done that and waited a short time for the commercial section to start up, he'd have been reinstated as Expat and there'd be no FF rule infraction at all being discussed, just your allegations which may or may not have merit. That's gotta bite... but who knew?
Most importantly, I have yet to see an answer or even acknowledgement to Scotts very valid question...
Just wondering... as I ponder the difference between endlessly sliming someone in the Bin and filing Real Charges with the Real Authorities requiring Real Proof that has your Real Name on it and not your FF username... ya'll expect credibility? The Act credible and take this Whole Mess where it belongs, ya'll are even giving the Bin a bad rep..
I'd give it up before all of ya'll look like nothing more than a bunch of disgruntled idiots. Ooops, never mind, too late.
It's been fun, sorta, but gotta real life to get back to... so my Farewell word to The Mob anonymously insisting edgetrader is the antichrist incarnate... even if you're correct on every point about his 'so you say' shyster dealings, there's no 'Scammer' without 'Scamees' and your continued vilification of him only empahsizes your own incredible shortcomings in the areas of common sense and/or due diligence.
There's other words that might be more appropriate to use, but I'm trying to be nice and give everybody the benefit of my considerable Doubt on this whole thing...
I'd be curious to know how many of you either got scammed before this (if scam there was) or didn't learn your lesson and got scammed yet again by someone else. Anybody care to throw out those stats along with all the other meticulously detailed garbage you keep slinging in here.
Wait, it's the Bin... no rules and no holds barred! No standard of proof required either... but wait again!! That was all going on before it got binned...
This 'trueblue' joker come lately almost takes the prize... fiendishly ripped off and scammed by someone named Keith who we're to believe he knew from the beginning is edgetrader, curiously accepting of his 'losses' yet inclined to write it off and move on ((maybe shoulda held that thought dude...)), now sitting back "just watching the fireworks with no intention to post", following along blow by wretched blow wading thru countless posts full of pi$$ and vinegar but somehow 'above it all'...
...suddenly getting his BUTTON PUSHED! when he reads the line about the funds getting disbursed (http://www.forexfactory.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=3000902) and RISING UP! offa that couch breathin' suphur and brimstone, locked, loaded, and ready to tear someone a new one... It's a good thing someone didn't say something that REALLY set him off...
truetexblue, trying to make up for lost time doesn't make you sound any less pathetic...
Anyway, like I said 'almost' takes the prize... There's just too much competition here for any single person to Clearly Ring the Bell. You guys are all grubbing a'rd in the Bin Slime convinced that if you scream Loud and Long enough, the
Edgetrader clearly violated the FF username rule (my only beef with him atm) and as of right now is still able to post here under that name... Had he not done that and waited a short time for the commercial section to start up, he'd have been reinstated as Expat and there'd be no FF rule infraction at all being discussed, just your allegations which may or may not have merit. That's gotta bite... but who knew?
Most importantly, I have yet to see an answer or even acknowledgement to Scotts very valid question...
I have to ask has there been or will anyone step up and report these theft allegations to http://www.ic3.gov/about/default.aspx
I'd give it up before all of ya'll look like nothing more than a bunch of disgruntled idiots. Ooops, never mind, too late.
FUBAR...
- #8,203
- Aug 28, 2009 3:44pm Aug 28, 2009 3:44pm
Nice DEMO account, Jazzman. Let's see you do it with a REAL account. Edge couldn't.
I feel bad that you have to try and belittle anybody here, because of the situation, just because you don't believe in it. Many at FF scalp on a regular basis.
Peace
Q
The Only Constant Is Change!
- #8,204
- Aug 28, 2009 4:11pm Aug 28, 2009 4:11pm
- | Joined Nov 2007 | Status: Trader | 1,186 Posts
Jazzman, I'm merely saying that demo trading is really easy. So is drawing lines on a chart showing winning trades. It's when the rubber meets the road that trading gets hard. I put no stock whatsoever into demo account records, and I understand those who don't want to post real trading accounts. Although I have seen people post their real trading records and that they could be backed up. When real money is at stake, a whole set of different parameters come into play. Particularly on a system that has a ratio of 5 to 20 or 5 to 25. Even trading dimes at these amounts is far different than monopoly money.
I really don't know what it takes to convince you, but it doesn't matter to me one way or the other. An alleged master trader, a person who contends he trades for a living, LOST substantial sums of money. If you think you're better than him, that's cool. Go for it.
It's a worn out phrase that only 5% make any money at Forex. I think it's really less than that. I think maybe only about 2% make any real money at forex. The great majority of people who post on FF trade demo accounts for years. When they think they have it down, they open a live trading account and lose money on the very system they were making money with on their demo account.
Afterwards, they pull in their horns and go back to demo trading. Just ask Edge.
I really don't know what it takes to convince you, but it doesn't matter to me one way or the other. An alleged master trader, a person who contends he trades for a living, LOST substantial sums of money. If you think you're better than him, that's cool. Go for it.
It's a worn out phrase that only 5% make any money at Forex. I think it's really less than that. I think maybe only about 2% make any real money at forex. The great majority of people who post on FF trade demo accounts for years. When they think they have it down, they open a live trading account and lose money on the very system they were making money with on their demo account.
Afterwards, they pull in their horns and go back to demo trading. Just ask Edge.
I don't have to prove anything to you or anybody. I've made money scalping for a while now and this method has helped take my live trading to another level. Scalping is not for everybody and certainly not for new traders without a massive amount of education and screen time. It doesn't really matter if you believe me or not.
I feel bad that you have to try and belittle anybody here, because of the situation, just because you don't believe in it. Many at FF scalp on a regular basis.
Peace
Q
That is the result ....
Just a suggestion for using an avatar for a new identity:
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I'm really frustrated
Had a horrible day at wok today... thanks for the much needed laugh
Great stuff!
- #8,208
- Aug 28, 2009 6:27pm Aug 28, 2009 6:27pm
- Joined Sep 2008 | Status: Trader | 2,298 Posts
Spoken like a true liberal with a hidden political agenda. Thought that was a no-no in FF also, but it seems any posting other than a death threat is fair and righteous.
Starting to see instead of just looking.
Paradoxical, I'm sure your point is heard, but Jazzman is a big boy and perhaps a great trader! No reason to unleash your anger on him.
I can't begin to imagine what you're going through atm Paradox, but try focusing your energy at your real target.
I do, however, understand that this can happen very easily in the heat of the moment.
..but no more now.. aight?
Absolutely agree. On the other hand Jesper look how many people on here have been seduced into believing absolutely in the creator and his system....
Hi Strada,
well.. yes, but... lol.
When people start thinking with their emotions instead of their heads, things like this can happen.
Of course this can also happen alot easier than we might want to confess to and to every single one of us.
I think the bottom line is that we need to stop thinking that the grass is greener on the other side of the fence.
We are all the same no matter which side we are on.
For instance, who's the better sales person, the charming, out going sales rep. or the shy sales rep.?
They both work for the same company and selling the same products.
The answer is that they are probably just as good when the turnover reports are coming in.
Since the charming outgoing guy is usually exaggerating the products a bit selling on his charm and how wonderful everything will be if we switched to his products, the shy guy most likely will be telling the customer the truth about the products and giving them real information making him trust worthy.
They are both great sales reps, but the charming one is over represented simply because he is much "louder" than the shy guy.
Making us think he is a much better sales rep.
...but the turnover shows that they are equally good.
With this i mean to say, we are all equally good, no one is better than you and you are better than no one.
Thinking that someone is so much greater than you that you can't even understand his trading system, that shows that the trading system probably isn't working like it should or the creator isn't telling you everything about it.
That's a typical example of the Charming, out going sales rep., but what we need and should always go for is rock hard information and if that information doesn't add up, then it isn't YOU, it's the information that is false and/or over exaggerated since you know, that you know how to use the information.
..but sometimes the charm of the charming sales rep over shadows that.
This is when we are wiggling on a thin line and need to double check the information at peace and if it still doesn't make sense to you, even when you are absolutely certain that you know how to handle the info, then you need to get out and quick.
I don't know if this made any sense whatsoever, sometimes i just can't put my thoughts into words in the way i'd like to.
I'm gonna pull the "over tired" card now and use that as an excuse if this didn't make any sense.
Either way, this was just my little try at explaining our behaviour when nothing makes sense, but we still want to do it!
- #8,215
- Aug 30, 2009 6:25am Aug 30, 2009 6:25am
- Joined Mar 2006 | Status: THANK YOU MERLIN,TWEE and FF Team | 4,603 Posts
- #8,216
- Aug 30, 2009 10:58am Aug 30, 2009 10:58am
Not to get back money is not to be proved by showing account or bank documents ... you can easy fake or manipulate them. But Edge had a lot of time even to show documents. Did you hear anything from him since about 24 hours? Did he prove anything here? Yes, I'm disapointed and frustrated and I can't say how sad this all is to me. A few posts back I wrote that every one should get a second chance. Look here:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost.php?p=2995886&postcount=8114
But to get a second chance means one have to do something for...
at first, there is no need to apologize...
Nearly the same thoughts here, but less emotional
Hey, letīs think about this:
IF Edge is a criminal, have this people, which have blown this threat, really reached their target ?
Definitively not !!! Ok, Edge is banned...Nice !!!
But remember Arny: IīLL BE BACK !!! And Edge will be back with a lot more knowledgement...
Iīm asking for myself, why didnīt this "victims" call the big Boyīs...
http://www.fbi.gov/majcases/fraud/internetschemes.htm
Opps, My youngsters are back very hungry asking for a herd of dead animals !!!
Have to jump into the kitchen!
Ok, letīs close the book for today... only a little food for thought
So long and trade well!
- #8,218
- Aug 30, 2009 1:49pm Aug 30, 2009 1:49pm
Hi Strada,
well.. yes, but... lol.
When people start thinking with their emotions instead of their heads, things like this can happen.
Of course this can also happen alot easier than we might want to confess to and to every single one of us.
I think the bottom line is that we need to stop thinking that the grass is greener on the other side of the fence.
We are all the same no matter which side we are on.
For instance, who's the better sales person, the charming, out going sales rep. or the shy sales rep.?
They both work for the same company...
You hit the nails head exactly... food for thought!
- #8,220
- Aug 30, 2009 5:04pm Aug 30, 2009 5:04pm
Hi Studbiol,
at first, there is no need to apologize...
Nearly the same thoughts here, but less emotional
......
Ok, letīs close the book for today... only a little food for thought
So long and trade well!
I think we will meet on an other thread. Trading will go on. We had not always the same opinion to what happened here - but it's all over now ...
What about "PEACE" again? (http://www.glitter-graphics.com/)
Yes, I'm emotional ... this is my human nature ... I'm not a kind of EA
If there are pips you can collect - just do it! 