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  • #8,141
  • Aug 27, 2009 8:14am Aug 27, 2009 8:14am
It would be best to use this thread as an informational reference at this time I think.

Once a newbie or quasi veteran gets the information they need, the can go to either of the 'offshoot' Nitro threads and become more active there.

Does not matter if trading C4 or MT4 Nitro. Premise is the same. One of the new threads seems tailored to working the base plan, the other is more in line with expanding the potential.

Obviously, nobody knows which will do best. Has some interesting things going on in each.

Regards.
  • #8,142
  • Aug 27, 2009 9:46am Aug 27, 2009 9:46am
Edgetrader Keith, why no further notifications following this quoted email of yours? No dispersal, no statement, no report.


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4) Simply put, I will continue to trade and press forward with the Tradestation initiative also. At the end of the 5th month (February), ALL FUNDS ARE GOING TO BE LIQUIDATED AND DISPERSED!!!
If, at any time preceeding the end of the 5th month, the funds have managed to grow to 100% of initial value, then trading will immediately cease and dispersement will commence at that time.
Further, should trading be found to be at a loss of 50% of initial value at any time, trading will cease and liquidation will occur at that time....
Will you respond here? I doubt it. You are a coward and your hiding shows it.
  • #8,143
  • Aug 27, 2009 9:53am Aug 27, 2009 9:53am
Quoting rob1599
Edgetrader Keith, why no further notifications following this quoted email of yours? No dispersal, no statement, no report.



Will you respond here? I doubt it. You are a coward and your hiding shows it.
Funds were liquidated and disbursed.
  • #8,144
  • Edited 11:40am Aug 27, 2009 10:04am | Edited 11:40am
Quoting Edgetrader
Funds were liquidated and disbursed.
Total lie!!! I was a member of that group and received nothing.

As did none of the other members who I have all the email address and have been in contact with.

The only person the funds were disbursed to was Keith Brown.

This will be my last post here I am sure because Keith has banned all members that have posted here from the thread once they identify themselves.

Well he has finally admitted he took all the money from the account and kept it all for himself!
  • #8,145
  • Aug 27, 2009 11:04am Aug 27, 2009 11:04am
Would someone please post a chart of renko WITH wicks, please. Need to do a little "visual analysis".
Thanks
krly
  • #8,146
  • Aug 27, 2009 11:05am Aug 27, 2009 11:05am
Quoting kavorca
Total lie!!! I was a member of that group and received nothing.

As did none of the other members who I have all the email address and have been in contact with.

The only person the funds were disbursed to was Keith Brown.

This will be my last post here I am sure because Keith has banned all members that have posted here from the thread once they identify themselves.
No lie, you said yourself the funds were disbursed.

Must being driving FF admin nuts figuring out all you alleged participants in the 'scam'. At best, maybe one has a screen name matching anything in the EU thread.

Massive multiple users going on or there are a hell of a lot more 'criminals' here than anyone thought.

Yeah, you are out of here too.
  • #8,147
  • Aug 27, 2009 11:24am Aug 27, 2009 11:24am
Quoting krly
Would someone please post a chart of renko WITH wicks, please. Need to do a little "visual analysis".
Thanks
krly
Please vist one of the offshoot Nitro threads and they will provide that info. to you.

Regards.
  • #8,148
  • Edited 3:21pm Aug 27, 2009 2:55pm | Edited 3:21pm
Funds were liquidated and disbursed.
The only person the funds were disbursed to was Keith Brown.
No lie, you said yourself the funds were disbursed.



What´s that, Edge ?
Do I interpret it correctly as a kind of third-rate virtual intellectual suicide ?
If this is so, I´m asking for a little more style, please...!!!

Please correct me, if I´m wrong!

Regards
  • #8,149
  • Aug 27, 2009 4:01pm Aug 27, 2009 4:01pm
why is the thread in the recycle been
  • #8,150
  • Aug 27, 2009 4:18pm Aug 27, 2009 4:18pm
Quoting yab
why is the thread in the recycle been
Hi yab,

a damn good question... Please ask Twee about it... We had a lot of unconstructive trouble here in this thread!

Regards
  • #8,151
  • Aug 27, 2009 5:12pm Aug 27, 2009 5:12pm
Wow, So you are admitting you disbursed their funds to yourself?
I am confused, is that what you are saying here?
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  • #8,152
  • Aug 27, 2009 5:20pm Aug 27, 2009 5:20pm
Quoting smjones
Wow, So you are admitting you disbursed their funds to yourself?

Holy Moley!
Geez, get a grip.

Look at the original posting. Who the heck is the person? One posting out of nowhere jumping on the bandwagon? Multiple screen name poster? God? Satan? Who the hell is the person.

I have already responded to Twee's request and have not heard back yet.

You people really need to find something a little more constructive to do here.
  • #8,153
  • Edited 8:57pm Aug 27, 2009 5:25pm | Edited 8:57pm
Quoting Edgetrader
Geez, get a grip.

Look at the original posting. Who the heck is the person? One posting out of nowhere jumping on the bandwagon? Multiple screen name poster? God? Satan? Who the hell is the person.

I have already responded to Twee's request and have not heard back yet.

You people really need to find something a little more constructive to do here.

I'm just saying, be careful that what you write is what you mean. Then your quoted statement is not accurate and you did not disburse their funds to yourself. Is that correct?

Thanks for your quick answer
  • #8,154
  • Aug 27, 2009 7:19pm Aug 27, 2009 7:19pm
Quoting Edgetrader
Funds were liquidated and disbursed.
to your personal accounts aye????
  • #8,155
  • Edited 8:30pm Aug 27, 2009 7:20pm | Edited 8:30pm
I was just reminded of a previous PM from a (concerned) friend about this whole mess and spent (wasted) the last couple hours reviewing as many of the highlights as I can handle right now...

Whatever is ACTUALLY going on here relative to Forex Factory which is the only thing I would even remotely have an interest in can continue on and/or get settled ((if ever)) without my Vouch which was given in Good Faith under different circumstances...

Edgetrader/Expat/Keith/Whoever... I'm sure you had your reasons to come back here under the circumstances that you did so, but that is none of my concern. What does NOT appear to be in question is that at the very least, there has been a multiple username violation by you.

Based on backreading most of your posts and the way you conducted yourself up to the time I vouched for you, I'd like to think you're not the Epitome of Evil like this mob of crazed bloodthirsty morons are making you out to be. I mean if you did take their coin and simply not meet their expectations, whose decision was it to give someone their funds on the basis of an internet claim in the first place...?

Sounds like some Major Duh Factor going on there so no sympathy for them from this corner there either.

If on the other hand you took their coin and Absconded with any portion of it, then you're in a whole different category and methinks you'll be looking over your shoulder for all time or until you make it Right.

To be clear, I vouched for you in good faith and was unaware you had already intentionally circumvented FF's rules on the matter of usernames.

That said... FF's current 'policy' towards certain multiple username violators like Codebreaker, or allowing the return of previously suspended traders (such as Mparker) who later got booted yet again has created a somewhat murky situation...

None of that is my concern either... but who I vouch for is, and you no longer have mine.
FUBAR...
  • #8,156
  • Aug 27, 2009 11:13pm Aug 27, 2009 11:13pm
Quoting Edgetrader
Funds were liquidated and disbursed.
Well hello, Keith, long time no hear from!! For all you newbs out there that wanna defend Edgetrader, go back to the "old thread" and look for my name: I defended ExpatXXXX regularly against "little lice" (sorry lillelise (sp) you were right; but I was a believer)

Keith, February came and went my friend. I sent you several emails asking what the hell happened to the last of our funds.

You liquidated them, you claim? Well by god, to WHOM DID YOU DISBURSE THEM TO? I GODDAMN SURE DIDN'T GET A DISBURSEMENT! I DIDN'T EVEN GET SO MUCH AS A GODDAMN "FUCK YOU VERY MUCH AND THANK YOU FOR PLAYING" RESPONSE TO MY EMAILS!!

Up until now, I've considered my $5k+ loss to you and your inability to trade the very plan you taught the cost of my tuitition at Forex University.

A couple of days ago, I received an email from one of our fellow members of kbtrading.com that you were back as Edgetrader.

Well I've been reading this shit and knew you were Keith long before I got to Twee's posting that outed you.

How did I know it was you?

Because you and I had so goddamed many private emails and PM's on this forum the other forums and then finally kbtrading that I can read the tone of your voice. I reckognized immediately that it was you.

But I had no intention of logging backing on to FF to say anything...

Until I read this post where you claimed that you did indeed follow up on your word to liquidate the fund and disburse it.

Show me the cancelled check that you sent to me, goddamit!! You can't because whatever you did with the funds after your last and final response to us, you DID NOT DISBURSE ANY FUNDS BACK TO US!

Did you pocket them? or did you blow the whole account and were you ashamed to tell us?

I used to think the latter, but if you claim you liquidated the account and disbursed the funds, then I gotta think you just pocketed the funds. Or are you a coward to even answer the question posed to you with the words "I blew the account"?

You know, I have a big ass fucking folder on my hardrive labeled kbtrading. I nearly deleted that folder a couple of months ago.

Maybe I outta read back through all those logs from kbtrading and that other trading room that we were in for a while; all those PM's between you and me.

Oh and those signed contracts......

Like I said, Keith, I wrote you off months ago and even when I heard that you were back touting a system again I just came around to enjoy the show.

Until you LIED that you disbursed the funds. Didn't happen!!


Btw: did you ever get that yacht?
  • #8,157
  • Aug 27, 2009 11:45pm Aug 27, 2009 11:45pm
Quoting >Apocalypto<
Slack,

the facts are,

as i see em after rereading most the Expat thread:

Client - trade for me please.
Keith - No not sure on that.
Clients please please please.
Keith - ok, why not.
Keith - I will make you a profit for 15% drawdown on your deposit
Client - ok lest do it.
Client - we're losing money on Oanda. Keith what's happening?
Keith - it's all cool this happens keep it with me. lets move to IBFX better.
Clients - (some leave at loss others move.) ok Keith....
Clients - KEITH WE'RE LOSING MORE MONEY!
Clients - Keith, keith, are you there...
Apocolypto, you pretty well summed up about 8 months of a LOT of activity. On kbtrading, there were a lot more people that tried to trade his method than were in the managed fund. By the way, while he did not offer to manage an account for us on FF, he did state that he managed a fund for some "friends" or something like that. I don't remember if that was openly on the thread or in PM's.

There was a lot of talk about "getting the feel" of pa, don't be "so mechanical".

I don't remember any charts that Keith posted on the scalping thread that contained ACTUAL trades. He always drew vertical lines to show us where "he took the trade and where he got out". It's always easy to win 90% of your trades in hindsight ;-)

The problem was never that the system was a farce, the problem was we didn't see what he saw as well as he saw it.

We didn't have enough faith, we didn't hold our heads right. Not like him.

Sounds a lot like Jesus Christ, you think? Well Keith plays crucified real well.

Oh, yeah, the system WAS a farce. Keith proved that when actually traded it for real ---- with a shitload of our money.
  • #8,158
  • Aug 27, 2009 11:56pm Aug 27, 2009 11:56pm
When we were in kbtrading and Keith had consistently lost for a while, he took off for a week or so.

But guess who joined and talked (ok, typed) to us: His brother. Forgot his brother's name, just remember what state and I think town, on the East Coast that he lived in. I probably have copies of those conversations in my kbtrading folder.

The brother tried to "feel us out" with questions about "his brother Keith". Oh, yeah, I just remembered the "brother's name". I won't repeat here in case he is a real person.


I had my doubts then and they are even greater, now, that Keith's brother was just Keith.

So Keith, did you really have a nephew (brother's son)?
Did he really get killed in a crash as you claimed when you dissapeared for several days?

I googled news in that particular state on the east coast for teenager deaths and couldn't find a match to your story. I just figured it was because I didn't have enough information to find a news story on it.
  • #8,159
  • Aug 28, 2009 12:00am Aug 28, 2009 12:00am
like I said, I had no intention of posting to this thread.

I just came to see the fireworks.

But when you lied that you disbursed the funds, well that just pissed me off, buddy.



Did (member of our group) ever show you a copy of the stuff he found on you via a private investigator?


I can't remember exactly what it was, now. hmmmmm.
  • #8,160
  • Aug 28, 2009 12:22am Aug 28, 2009 12:22am
This is crazy!

Above posts are really starting to paint a different picture

OMG!!
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