C4 Scalping

So sad it could end this way........

"That is exactly correct, Expat did not solicit, there were many people on this thread that asked him to trade their accounts, and so a few snitches, or trouble makers, or bad apples, whatever they are, ruined a good thing, now we have no leader to continually help us all move forward, thanks a whole bunch to the a******s that ruined a great thing, I can not believe that we have people on this thread acting this way, when this man-Expat did nothing but give from the heart, you 'bad apples' should all be ashamed of yourself."

This is a quote from a post on the other thread linked by Twee. Is this the fate we may have to endure? If that proves to be the case, it will be a great shame and all of those who have learnt so much in the past few short weeks will be rudderless and left to our individual devices. I am sure that many of us will continue to develop the "less is more" concept of trading with as few indicators as possible - because it just makes good sense.

Whatever the outcome in this shoddy affair, I sincerely hope that the more skilled amongt us will pick up the batten and continue the development of the concept laid out by Edge. I am sure that if Twee asked, he would find a great deal of support for Edge. All I have read to date indicates that he may have been involved in trying to trade on behalf of people who did not have the inteligence to do so themselvs in a market best left alone by such people. Losses occur when trading this market (or any other market) and this appears to have been the problem here. If these 'grizzle arses' were involved in a fonzy scheme such as we have recently witnessed, then they would have something to whinge about.

I hope this thread does not implode - C4 can be nasty if not handled with care.

Karl

Jim
I love it, including your postscript!
Andy

Mind you, the presumption of innocence – being considered innocent until proven guilty – is a legal right that the accused in criminal trials has in many modern countries.

Is Edge being prosecuted for a crime and thus his liberty interest is at stake? If not, let Edge speak for himself and clear his name if he so wishes!

I feel people are struggling to accept the truth of the situation - they are displaying normal symptoms of anger and denial. This will pass and then there will be depression and finally acceptance. Maybe then you will see that the likes of Irathi, Indrek, Gleneagles and others were trying to protect innocent people and rightly had a sense of outrage at what they were perceiving.

Just take a step back - there was the Tudor Girl con which he was very odd and should have had alarm bells ringing. Those that stoutly defend Edge now were also defending Tudor Girl until it became impossible to ignore the truth. Same will happen here. He shrugged that off but then there were the frequent bannings of people and, what seemed to me, shifting of positions and expalanations which owed more to bluster than substance.

Many of you ignored the words about Simon Shepherd from wiser men than I over at TSD, and a lot of you kept quoting Edge's catchphrases to attack anyone trying to interject to tell the truth. Bit like a cult?

If you feel the system is worth persevering with, do so and ask some real trading experts to give their view and advice - I am sure they will - nothing wrong with that. However, maybe some will feel grateful what was surely about to unfold has now been stopped.

What a strange comment to make. I have had 4 winning trades today for a total of 20 pips. Why on earth would I want "a real trading expert" to tell me if it works. Is that how you trade?

I dont want to argue with you and I wish the best for you and everyone else.

You have said you dont want the thread to die and others feel that they want it to continue - presumably because you feel further progress and enhancements can be made which is why I made the statement. If you are happy and making your money regularly why do you need the thread?

And yes - I am always on the lookout for ideas and improvements from the (few) genuinely good traders who write on the web. Who wouldn't be?

That's a valid point.

I think I have enough to be successful with this technique. However Edge did talk about more to come and naturally I was interested to continue listening given that the method was already making pips for me.

same old same old......

Well......

No great surprise Edge but still would like to make a point....

FF is a public forum with rules. Expat was kicked off for some solicitation on a forum. This was a breach of the rules and therefore the removal was just.

Do the rules then state that an individual is not allowed to create a new profile and start again? I don't know.

Coming from a law background some of what has been said is right, and wrong.

IF there was a "scam" it would be to the authorities to investigate, prepare a case and either prosecute or not. Allegations don't make a crime however tend to suggest that there is a belief that one was committed and leads to that investigation.

That investigation has NOTHING TO DO WITH FF. It would be a matter for the police and prosecutors to deal with. I can assure you that the heresy accusations posted on a public forum anonymously would form no part of that investigation and would have NO place in any subsequent trial

If an allegation was made against Keith and if it was investigated so be it.

The outcome of such is for the victims, the accused and the courts NOT individuals on a public forum.

With regards to this thread there was a plan laid out by a person who remained to assist with individuals that chose to learn it for themselves. What the person's motives for for starting the thread don't really bother me, neither does their moral status as a human being.

I am sorry that people have been victims of scams in the past. i think everyone could name a friend of family member that has been, its not uncommon and has a big impact on peoples lives.

Edge, there are a few of us here that have appreciated your teachings and have learnt a lot. If your intentions here were criminal then that would be a shame and i would guess that we would not hear anymore from you.

If however you were wrongly accused, there was insufficient evidence to prosecute, the case was dropped, there was no case at all ....... and you chose to create a new identity to offer something back then please don't stop now

You have been given the opportunity by Twee to post comment here on your intentions. I would hope that your intentions would have been to lead us all to the next Nitro thread where we would have continued to learn to trade this system together.

If that is the case then please say so. I cannot see that FF or Twee would have the right to ban you from this forum over accusations that have no foundlings in law (if that is the case).

It is unfortunate that this thread is in the bin, however it may mean there are less posts from new followers asking stupid questions that have been answered 100 times and leaves some room for the people that have been here and have helped develop the thread into something that is making me some money, lets face it, that is the point of all this. (not making me money, making all of us money!)

Regardless of Edge's decisions and FF decisions over the thread can we please choose to either stay or go to the same place so those of us that are trading Nitro and learning can continue to help each other?! I appreciate a forum is out there already that discusses C4 but maybe a new one for Nitro followers should be considered

Edge eagerly waiting a response from you.

Hi all,

I echo exactly what waddij has said. I have benefited greatly from Edge's teachings. Heck, the last 3 weeks were worth it just to find 'Trading in the Zone'. Whether Edge is banned from FF or not a Nitro dedicated thread should definitely be started so we can all continue learning, but it would be preferable if Edge were still around to lead the way.
Regards,
Matthew

This is my first post in FF Forum.

First of all i would like thank everybody whois bring this Thread so far. More than 500 page in a very short period. Respect!!

Accourding Twee, Edgetrader and Expatxxx are the same person.
But the Fact is. did Edgetrader mention only one word about getting money from this Thread so far?

No he did not.

I dont care what Expatxxx or Edgetrader has done on the past. Maybe he really stolen money from other people.

But i believe people can change his mind.

Why should Edgetrader put so much energy on a new thread and gave such important Informtionen for people to become succesful trading?

Fact is i am noob on the forex market. I follow forex for about a half year and never traded live, yet

Only reading this Thread from begining and using those indicator which was bring by Edge...and updated by SM, DX, Pipo, Stuid, and others.... i learn so much about forex.

I would like say everyone

Thank you sooooooo much again

This Thread is unpayable, closing it would be wrong.

PS: my englishskillz sucks.

Have a nice day

Waddij,
There is no law that gives us the right to post here. It is by the grace and favour of the site admin that we are able to post. The admin of this site can withdraw privileges at any time and don't even need to give a reason.

As it is a public forum, the content of the posts are subject to the law of any country it can be viewed in.

Just to be clear.

Regards,
John.

What a bad news....the thread in the recycled bin...

I will not comment on this...i have not the knowledge and the basis to accuse nobody...i watch only the facts...

is C4 working? Yes...this seems from many of us in this thread
is Nitro working? Yes...it needs more efforts because we were not used to trade renko before this...but we are learning
Has Edge ever proposed selling of services or signals? No...read his posts and you will find nothing on this...

So...what is the reason why he should be banned?? I see no reasons...
He is teaching us something useful at no cost...

Everything else is irrelevant...

Yes...i also have been scammed in the past....it was my fault!

All good and well

Now that everybody have made their statements and laid them eggs can we please get back to developing this system ?

As is it is already successfull although I do feel that there is potential in getting this to be even more profitable and solid. I like the No indy charts or rather the less is more approach and the renko's really does make a difference with confirming PA.

I am using an indy called FXI_LINEAPLANUS which came with the TRIAD system to check up on trending and ranging of the market, this is a commercial indy though but if there is something similar or even better i would appreciate any input, preferebly something similar that could maybe display multiple timeframes like m15 and m30 this could then help in deciding whether a trade has a higher probability of profit.

Just an idea.

Hope to have some input

Keith, **** you for running away with the hard earned money of some of my friends!

Thanks for spending many months with me in kbtrading, trying to learn me scalping which in the end didn't succeed. Obvious reasons for the fail of the many different systems and setups you had; it was all based on lagging crossovers and a very bad Risk:Reward ratio of 2:1. And no attention for support/resistance at all.

I really saw you as my trading mentor and had a lot of respect for you, too bad you are a scammer.

Thanks to the old partners from kbtrading for keeping a sharp eye on this forum, that made it possible to prevent another scam from Keith.

Twee, thanks for taking action against him. I'm sure it has saved many people their hard earned money. Of course some newbies in here are disappointed, but they actually got saved from a possible new scam.

quick +10 was slow on trigger as everything was moving well together

If I may ask, what is the MA and the settings you are using? Probably dumb question.

Respectfully

ma in color wappliedprice is the ma and the setting are 10/3/6 old c4 settings but i still like them. indicator has all ready been posted in this thread many times

I have been using 8-3-6 as I think was considered as the setting recommended