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  • #7,941
  • Edited 6:03pm Aug 25, 2009 6:01pm | Edited 6:03pm
Quoting FrankenPip
Hi Edgetrader:

Did you know that you can make this thread so that posters must have 10 vouches or more to post? That would calm things down for sure. You could change it back after the dust settled.
Hi Franky,

maybe it helps, maybe not... I think, we should focus on Target: Trade the plan !!! And, pleassssse, ignore the disturbing morons !!!

All the best...
  • #7,942
  • Aug 25, 2009 6:10pm Aug 25, 2009 6:10pm
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=179610


Was just reading some material on the forum in general.

Ace284 seems to have taken his position on things, and he of course has that right. However, I thought this to be of interest for those in the pro and con camps regarding scalping. Actually trading related material!

At thread intiation, Ace showed up there also and is obviously a swing or position style trader. Naturally, that too is fine. I noticed that a discussion thread was started a while back isolated to scalping opinion by Ace.

Thought it was an interesting read. Many in FF put a lot of faith in those with considerable recognition and accomplishment for their contributions in FF. There are several such individuals involved in this 3 page give and take.

Again, just thought it was interesting as this is indeed a scalping thread.

Regards.
  • #7,943
  • Aug 25, 2009 6:28pm Aug 25, 2009 6:28pm
Quoting thecatpreach
While cruising the FF during non-C4 hours, I came across this thread that may have some indicators that can help those creating these momentum and velocity indicators for C4 and nitro. http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=155285. Ronald Raygun was one of the contributors to this thread and the idea.

For example, from the first post:

"The purpose of the EA is to identify tick movement (#1) within the parameters of the following two filters:

Think of these 3 frames of reference:
1. Ticks (either up or down)
within:
2....
Missed this yesterday with all the distractions.

Very good posting and Thanks CP.

I am wondering if those with advanced technological skills have reviewed some of the material at this thread.

I know Tex is working on a project, and both DXTrade and Chris B. are talented individuals that may be more inclined to ween any valuable information from this if it does exist.

Just an idea as a decent ea for MT4 is at most time just a myth.

Regards.
  • #7,944
  • Edited 8:53pm Aug 25, 2009 8:20pm | Edited 8:53pm
Quoting Edgetrader
Ace284 seems to have taken his position on things, and he of course has that right.

Yes, I have taken my position on things. Note that I have no where stated that you did infact steal thousands of dollars, its simply asking you if you did. I have a response, that 'Keith' didn't steal the money but he apparently lost through trading. Well actually, only you can state that for a fact or you
simply can't because you don't know. I'm not against the helpful Edgetrader, i'm against the scamming Edgetrader if there is one. If there isn't then well its win-win. I get some useless users here who won't be able to respond to my messages and you won't have to hear about any of this again.

I've made 5 posts, the first one was simply asking you however, the topic of the remaining posts is toward scamming in general.

I'm sure you've read multiple posts about people claiming that when scammed its completely the victims fault. I don't understand how people can honestly state that, because there are so many different scenarios. Scamming is an art of theft, which is done intelligently. To all the smart guys here, just because its done intellegently doesn't mean that its not a crime, and that the victim is completely at fault. It goes undetected because of how well its executed. One develops close connection with another, say a relative and then deliberately steals that persons income and disappears, no where to be found. Again, its an friendship type bond that one manipulates.

That's also a scam, any mentally ill individual can sit there and say that its not the relatives fault, but in reality it is. This is why I debated the topic because you don't know whether that person who posted earlier in the thread not only lost $1500 , also the lost the ability to pay for health care, or anything else for that matter.

Anyway, hope your not that guy. If you are, I hope you get your just desserts.

P.S thats the second time you've gone into my posting history. Its quite ironic don't you think? that you're being accused because perhaps someone went into your FF history. Yes, im not a fan of scalping but thats not why I argued a point here.

P.P.S if anyone still wants to discuss how a victim in scamming is completely at fault, drop me a line through a PM. I'll gladly set you straight. Don't post against this one because for all of you who have been constantly asking me to stop posting after retaliating, well lets just say its not to best way. Because you claim to not want to clutter the thread, but for every one of my posts I get 10 back. You're simply arguing your point as I am and then pulling a smart ass comment saying that you want this to be about trading only.

Again, my apologies if your have no relation to this mess.

Oh and for the renko fans, if you don't know already there's a version (http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=189584) here on FF in the programming section modified and created by our members here.

Do I get a gold star Edge?

Peace.
  • #7,945
  • Aug 25, 2009 9:09pm Aug 25, 2009 9:09pm
Edgetrader, sorry to see they have made a mess of your thread, Mate.
  • #7,946
  • Aug 25, 2009 9:51pm Aug 25, 2009 9:51pm
i feel i am being scamed here by all this talk from the acusers
having never been scammed before not sure what to look for but at the moment if i am being scammed bring it on
i am making at least 3% consistantly on live acount for reasonable figures ie. we are not talking $5 a lot lot more
where i think i am being scammed is that edge will only let me make 2% when it is possible to do much better

all the material is in the previous pages learn and earn and KISS
  • #7,947
  • Aug 25, 2009 10:40pm Aug 25, 2009 10:40pm
Quoting Pips Queak
Keep it up Keith, keep it up....
To the majority of your followers here, you're looking pretty cool.
From the boys who knew you well last year, and you know who we are, you're looking a sad pratt. It would be funny if it wasn't so serious (and criminal).
If your 500 pages worth of ramblings here are not going to lead to yet another 5 figure attempted scam, then this is one hell of a penitence you're trying to pay.
The FF mods have the details, including evidence garnered from the core of followers from kbtrading...............
Greetings.
i was directed to this post from another thread.
i am just curious why nobody has made mention of this post or even an attempt to respond to it.



Quoting FrankenPip
Don't kill the messenger. People are making money using this system. That is why we are here. Attention needs to be on the method not individuals.
What if it's true? what if the individual helps others in making money & scamming others on the side? do u still consider him a good, selfless guy?
Again, i say what if?


Quoting pgpb
one simple question (honestly answered) ends this.
Edge has said he has the right to privacy, and that is certainly true
However if he would say, "I am not Keith Brown" , "I am not Exxpat", then that would be the end of it.
.....
One simple question, end it all.
If he is one and the same......we should know
If he is a different person, then he does not deserve this prolonged discussion/witch hunt
Yes or no

well?......
it only takes a little muscle power or even time to type a 2-letter or 3-letter word.
if u did others wrong, then u will forever be haunted by accusers.
If u did nothing wrong, then u can simply quickly end it (which u have not done) by replying with a yes or no.


btw, i am just a spectator in this.
but since FF is a community, we should do our share to care for the others & keep the community "clean".
  • #7,948
  • Aug 25, 2009 10:48pm Aug 25, 2009 10:48pm
Quoting bags1
i feel i am being scamed here by all this talk from the acusers
having never been scammed before not sure what to look for but at the moment if i am being scammed bring it on
i am making at least 3% consistantly on live acount for reasonable figures ie. we are not talking $5 a lot lot more
where i think i am being scammed is that edge will only let me make 2% when it is possible to do much better

all the material is in the previous pages learn and earn and KISS
Something to think about here.

To try for 20 pips, PA must first do 5. 5 pips is more achievable than 20pips.

Same goes for 2% growth, to get 3%+ is definitely achievable,
but the account will grow 2% first before it hits 3%.
Maybe less is more might apply here also?

just a thought.

As to the thread distractions, well........????
  • #7,949
  • Aug 25, 2009 10:54pm Aug 25, 2009 10:54pm
Quoting Ace284
Do I get a gold star Edge?

Peace.
Not hardly, is more in line with a dunce hat and sitting in front of the class wearing such. Will continue to play devil's advocate here.

Stop operating off of assumptions. You have a few questions yourself to answer as I have already posted on this scamming matter.

1. Was there a service offered for charge in that thread by the thread originator or anybody else?
2. If 'yes', can you provide written communication of an offer and acceptance of such service?
3. If 'no', can you provide any written proof of any nature substantial enough to bring forth any allegation of wrongdoing?
4. If 'no', then no court in the U.S. or any other country operating under common law would allow any such claim to be pursued.

As a matter of law, you and several others already have committed libel against that threads operator by your written communications. First year law student could easily win that case.

Also, some here are actually demanding that an individuals right to privacy be trampled upon based on unsubstantiated allegations. Further, many posters have stupidly exposed themselves as ignorant by erroneously claiming or thinking that they can post as they wish thinking they have autonomy through either FF or the freedom of speech afforded a public forum in general. They do not.

So, unless you are anyone else can actually prove someone engaged in a scam effort, then all you have are your little sewing circle snippets and a growing persona of that of a fool.

On the plus side, attempting to portray an investor who lost $1500 as some poor indigent with questionable mental capabilities is something only a die hard liberal could even attempt to appreciate. That is really a stretch in a capitalistic arena such as the Forex trading markets and associated forums.

I personally doubt that guy was hampered or challenged in any mental form what so ever. Still wreaks of just a small group of people who got into a poor investment choice and lost a few bucks.

A real scam artist running a sophisticated and 'intelligent' scam would have taken his whole knot, not just a paltry 15% of it.

Now, back to trading.

Regards.

P.S. - As you admit to not being interested in scalping at all, there is no real reason for you to post in this thread now is there. I think I have let you have your quasi Perry Mason moment a couple of times now. We certainly are not here to discuss the finer points of scamming now are we?
  • #7,950
  • Aug 25, 2009 10:54pm Aug 25, 2009 10:54pm
Troglodytes! I wish I owned the parachute concession.

Still enjoying the show.

Jim
  • #7,951
  • Aug 25, 2009 11:03pm Aug 25, 2009 11:03pm
[quote=supremeChaos;2991398]Greetings.
i was directed to this post from another thread.
i am just curious why nobody has made mention of this post or even an attempt to respond to it.

Perhaps they actually read the dang thing to begin with!
  • #7,952
  • Aug 25, 2009 11:07pm Aug 25, 2009 11:07pm
Sorry to disrupt the flow with something mundane but here is this morning's effort.
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  • #7,953
  • Aug 26, 2009 12:31am Aug 26, 2009 12:31am
Hi Dave W, I have the latest version of Renko...how do you select/change the level to which it is anchored?

Thanks...freddi

Quoting DaveW
The difference in appearance between our charts is probably due to the fact that my Renko Blocks are anchored at xxx5 rather than yours that are anchored at xxx0. Both are 10 pip blocks and apart from the anchoring difference seem similar

Dave W
  • #7,954
  • Aug 26, 2009 12:52am Aug 26, 2009 12:52am
Recycle bin? Oh dear...
  • #7,955
  • Aug 26, 2009 12:53am Aug 26, 2009 12:53am
Hi Folks. Sorry for the delayed response but we had to get a few facts straight before commenting on this situation. Edgetrader and ExpatXXXX (http://www.forexfactory.com/member.php?u=60281) are indeed the same person but we are still deciding on what to do about it.

Edgetrader/ExpatXXXX/Keith: We have several public and private reports that you have scammed investors out of money after being banned from FF for soliciting funds (http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=2081716#post2081716). If you'd like to defend yourself from these allegations please do so in this thread. Please also clearly state your motivation for this thread and your future plans in regard to offering managed accounts/product/services to Forex traders.

This thread will remain in the Bin until this situation is worked out. Sorry for the trouble this cause to all of you being so productive in this thread. There is another C4 thread here (http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=188248) that you may want to consider reading.
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  • #7,956
  • Aug 26, 2009 12:59am Aug 26, 2009 12:59am
Understandable action Twee.

My only thought is that there are many people here who are starting to be productive and successful at their scalping trades. In the meantime, perhaps an alternative Nitro thread could be setup so as to allow them room to work on their trading and not get caught up in the inevitable sh*tstorm that's going to follow. The other C4 thread in your post does not utilise the same method as people are using here.
  • #7,957
  • Aug 26, 2009 1:36am Aug 26, 2009 1:36am
all i see here is a victory to the failures

alot of people including myself have benefitted from this thread so what in effect has happened here is that the rest of us ie everybody that uses this thread has been punished
thanks


if it is found which it seems that edge is guilty maybe he was trying to help some of us to retify previous misdoings if you can call them this

i see others in other threads are rejoicing at the expolsion of this thread well i think you are selfish and will get what you deserve while i will go on making money as i have already made my wages for the day 10 min
work
thanks edge



  • #7,958
  • Aug 26, 2009 1:50am Aug 26, 2009 1:50am
It will be very sad if this thread is allowed to die.
  • #7,959
  • Aug 26, 2009 1:54am Aug 26, 2009 1:54am
Hi all.

Ok I have read this thread from start to finish, following every post and refreshing my page every now and again to see if something new comes up.

I must commend Edge for this system. Whether it is a flow off of another thread I do not really care what I do know is that for the first time since I started playing around with forex which is about 7 years ago I can actually place a trade without thinking too much.

All I Do is wait for the Dashboard to alarm me of a possible trade, then I look at the PA of a few pairs if they are in unison, I then look at the MOM and MA and if they confirm I place the trade and sometimes 10 seconds later bang 5 PIPS !, a few trades runs for some time up to 30mins but if the MA is still in the direction I leave it and wait for the retrace to finish and take my 5 pips, I do this the whole day not only during the proposed hours I do use another indy though to just verify whether the market is ranging or trending, this is my own little insurance policy .

I read all the accusations and as the people here say soap opera. Whether Edge is Keith or not I do not know if he is well mister you should pay your panance, I hate scammers !!

BUT UNTIL ANYTHING IS PROVEN HE IS INNOCENT.

Edge thank you very much for this. I am getting confident in live trading and will post some live trades if and when i get a chance but for now I am still practicing this on a demo. I am bagging more pips than I could ever have imagined. Yes I do have a few losses here and there but by watching the PA I can quickly kill them before doing a lot of damage. The wins overshadows the losses by far in any case !!

Keep up the good work.

Regards


Futron
  • #7,960
  • Aug 26, 2009 2:04am Aug 26, 2009 2:04am
Quoting SlushFund
It will be very sad if this thread is allowed to die.
If you filter all the BS that has gone on...there actually is a successful strategy here. I sincerely hope that the powers that be will let us continue.
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