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  • #188,961
  • Aug 14, 2009 4:54am Aug 14, 2009 4:54am
Quoting ukdaytrader
Not sure what that is or what it looks like, but have you tried here?

http://abysse.co.jp/mt4/indicator_image_3.html
Thanks for the link. Its in Japanese so have to find the english version. I read about the Hilbert Sine Wave while I was read about the application of the "Better Volume" inidcator. The author uses the HS wave indi in conjunction with the Better Volume indi to indentify changes in a cyclical turning points. Was hoping to find it and learrn more about it and its possible advantages.
  • #188,962
  • Aug 14, 2009 4:57am Aug 14, 2009 4:57am
Quoting Beljevina
Hopefully that sycho drop @ 8:35 GMT to 156.502 was all for the day. If not, we're heading to at least 155.972. C'mon London, take 'er up! Aren't you pros watching Bloomberg TV? They just declared the recession over across the world!Attachment
Do you believe it?
  • #188,963
  • Aug 14, 2009 5:11am Aug 14, 2009 5:11am
Quoting Beljevina
Hopefully that sycho drop @ 8:35 GMT to 156.502 was all for the day. If not, we're heading to at least 155.972. C'mon London, take 'er up! Aren't you pros watching Bloomberg TV? They just declared the recession over across the world!Attachment
Hi Beljevina Do you have a link for the volume indicator you are using and does it work on MT4?
I used to be smart - Education ruined me
  • #188,964
  • Aug 14, 2009 5:26am Aug 14, 2009 5:26am
Quoting ThePipAholic
Hi Beljevina Do you have a link for the volume indicator you are using and does it work on MT4?
It's MT4 based, and I picked it up here on FF. Google or search on the name for more info on it; I've also attached it below.
Quoting Eulogy
Do you believe it?
Of course not ... but if August still allows for unbridled optimism before sane heads start prevailing, let's use it as an excuse to drive up GBP crosses.
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  • #188,965
  • Aug 14, 2009 5:34am Aug 14, 2009 5:34am
is that tickseperatevolume any good? just looking at the low spike which was obvious buyers off 156.50, it seems to think there were more sellers than buyers, clearly not the case. hmmm
  • #188,966
  • Aug 14, 2009 5:34am Aug 14, 2009 5:34am
[quote=Beljevina;2955268]It's MT4 based, and I picked it up here on FF. Google or search on the name for more info on it; I've also attached it below.

Thanks for the indi Will check it out
I used to be smart - Education ruined me
  • #188,967
  • Aug 14, 2009 5:42am Aug 14, 2009 5:42am
Quoting ewokuk
is that tickseperatevolume any good? just looking at the low spike which was obvious buyers off 156.50, it seems to think there were more sellers than buyers, clearly not the case. hmmm
I don't have a complete grasp of it yet, nor VSA; I don't find it as definitive and reliable as I'd like, but that's mostly because I've not yet read William's Mastering the Markets. If one of the resident experts can comment (Malcolm?) on perhaps the buyer/seller breakdown it flashes, that'd answer one of my burning questions. I have though used it to assess the quality/amount of trade volume various brokers echo back via MT4, which once I learn VSA could provide insight into using one's data feed over another (if you don't go for the expense of eSignal's 300 brokers feed), and I've found differences of ten fold and more.
  • #188,968
  • Aug 14, 2009 5:56am Aug 14, 2009 5:56am
Quoting Beljevina
I don't have a complete grasp of it yet, nor VSA; I don't find it as definitive and reliable as I'd like, but that's mostly because I've not yet read William's Mastering the Markets. If one of the resident experts can comment (Malcolm?) on perhaps the buyer/seller breakdown it flashes, that'd answer one of my burning questions. I have though used it to assess the quality/amount of trade volume various brokers echo back via MT4, which once I learn VSA could provide insight into using one's data feed over another [b](if you don't go for the expense...
I've compared a couple of MT4 broker volumes to those of Esignal and they have been remarkably similar.
  • #188,969
  • Aug 14, 2009 6:03am Aug 14, 2009 6:03am
Quoting bluemax
Wanted to ask before everybody leaves the building again if anyone has or knows where to find a "Hilbert Sine Wave" indicator for MT4. Been looking for one but so far have been unsuccessful in locating it. Id appreciate it . Thank you
hi bluemax.

one reason you probably can't find a Hilbert filter is that they don't work. John Ehlers gave up on frequency discriminators a while ago because the long signal cycles are swamped by noise.

For something "off the shelf" the Jurik are probably the best digital signal indicators out there.

"real" digital filter trading is better, but it takes a long time to master. The adaptive sampling needs to be adjusted for each currency pair, trading period, and time frame for the signals to give a useful reading. You also need a very good dll library, which you won't find for free. The other consideration is processing power. The dll library needs serious CPU firepower to calculate the algorithms. A dual pentium 4 can't handle it.

That said, once you're making good money trading, is worth the investment.
  • #188,970
  • Aug 14, 2009 6:06am Aug 14, 2009 6:06am
Quoting ukdaytrader
I've compared a couple of MT4 broker volumes to those of Esignal and they have been remarkably similar.
i agree with you on this
I recommend you read something else as this sentence is now concluded.
  • #188,971
  • Aug 14, 2009 6:27am Aug 14, 2009 6:27am
borrrrrrring !!!!!!!!! wake u

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  • #188,972
  • Aug 14, 2009 6:29am Aug 14, 2009 6:29am
Quoting Fudomyo
hi bluemax.

one reason you probably can't find a Hilbert filter is that they don't work. John Ehlers gave up on frequency discriminators a while ago because the long signal cycles are swamped by noise.

For something "off the shelf" the Jurik are probably the best digital signal indicators out there.

"real" digital filter trading is better, but it takes a long time to master. The adaptive sampling needs to be adjusted for each currency pair, trading period, and time frame for the signals to give a useful reading. You also need a very...
Thank you Fudomyo for the helpful response. Im trying to find something that works in conjunction with the "Better Volume" indi for better confirmation of a move. Been playing with stochastcs oscillator and a few others.
  • #188,973
  • Aug 14, 2009 6:31am Aug 14, 2009 6:31am
Quoting ukdaytrader
I've compared a couple of MT4 broker volumes to those of Esignal and they have been remarkably similar.
I find that intriguing, given that eSignal says they bring together 300 sources. When one compares it to one's own broker, I guess it would depend on how big your broker is, but the differences in volume should be huge. And for a robust VSA bar-by-bar analysis, bear in mind volume is only one-third of the assessment criteria, since the range of the bar and closing price are the other 2. So I'd assume if one's broker has significant volumes reporting back (say on a M5 chart), you'd have overall very good preconditions in place to do proper VSA assessment even without the eSignal volume.

There are also VSA indicators around that will flash up interpretations of the bars for the chart you throw it on; I've found they clutter up your window (sure, you could use another MT4 window) but I also find you can't get a rock-solid view and next-course-of-action with them. (I know not everyone will agree)
  • #188,974
  • Aug 14, 2009 6:36am Aug 14, 2009 6:36am
Quoting Fudomyo
... "real" digital filter trading is better, but it takes a long time to master. The adaptive sampling needs to be adjusted for each currency pair, trading period, and time frame for the signals to give a useful reading. You also need a very good dll library, which you won't find for free. The other consideration is processing power. The dll library needs serious CPU firepower to calculate the algorithms. A dual pentium 4 can't handle it.

That said, once you're making good money trading, is worth the investment.
I find this intriguing. Are there commercial products out there that do this for FX quotes? What qualifies a good DLL library? What hardware (intel PC, otherwise?) is required? If you can provide any keywords for further googling, that would be great.
  • #188,975
  • Aug 14, 2009 6:40am Aug 14, 2009 6:40am
Quoting Beljevina
I find that intriguing, given that eSignal says they bring together 300 sources. When one compares it to one's own broker, I guess it would depend on how big your broker is, but the differences in volume should be huge. And for a robust VSA bar-by-bar analysis, bear in mind volume is only one-third of the assessment criteria, since the range of the bar and closing price are the other 2. So I'd assume if one's broker has significant volumes reporting back (say on a M5 chart), you'd have overall very good preconditions in place to do proper VSA assessment...
Yea, it's funny how Esignal take their volume from many sources yet it is barely any different to a standard MT4 broker.
I make a point of doing comparisons between Malcolm's charts and my own and have never seen a major difference. To think I was seriously contemplating subscribing to Esignal. Glad I didn't.

Of course the actual volumes being traded differ from broker to broker, but that doesn't mean there are differences in trader bias, if that makes sense?

I can't actually answer why, but Esignal displays volume data no differently to my MT4 charts.
  • #188,976
  • Aug 14, 2009 6:43am Aug 14, 2009 6:43am
we should bounce back down from here to 157.15 area
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  • #188,977
  • Aug 14, 2009 6:46am Aug 14, 2009 6:46am
hello all here is a though for today we could be seeing new daily high, but i think price will go back to 158, area.

and here is a thought for next week. lookin bullish
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  • #188,978
  • Aug 14, 2009 6:49am Aug 14, 2009 6:49am
Quoting bluemax
Thank you Fudomyo for the helpful response. Im trying to find something that works in conjunction with the "Better Volume" indi for better confirmation of a move. Been playing with stochastcs oscillator and a few others.
Here's the MT4 version of the Jurik MA of RSX (similar to the one Malcomb uses on esignal) Godfrey posted it here a while back.

It works great.

You need to also install ALL the files from this link for it to work properly.
http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...stcount=175863

.
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  • #188,979
  • Aug 14, 2009 6:52am Aug 14, 2009 6:52am
Quoting ewokuk
is that tickseperatevolume any good? just looking at the low spike which was obvious buyers off 156.50, it seems to think there were more sellers than buyers, clearly not the case. hmmm
This indicator gives no information about BUYERS or SELLERS VOLUME.
It just mixes the tick volume of MT4 with a collor of a candle as decribed below:

UpTicks[i]=(Volume[i]+(Close[i]-Open[i])/Point)/2; ( shown as BUYERS VOLUME )
DownTicks[i]=Volume[i]-UpTicks[i]; ( shown as SELLERS VOLUME)

Regards
Rem
  • #188,980
  • Aug 14, 2009 6:55am Aug 14, 2009 6:55am
Quoting forexlion
we should bounce back down from here to 157.15 area
i drew the red trendline based on how the 1 hour tema curves, since we have been bouncing off the 1 hour tema, i figured it would bounce again here and went short

and lo it did bounce right on the fib level

all this while all other indi's are still long

just pure PA observation, nothing else
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