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  • Aug 10, 2009 7:31am Aug 10, 2009 7:31am
  •  nubchai
  • | Joined Jan 2008 | Status: Member | 750 Posts
Quoting 5msport
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I am sitting here looking at it non stop, just abit worried it might go the wrong way, this is my first trade following this system.

I think I need to chill out abit.
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Money management really helps here. If you trade an amount and set a stop that you're willing to lose, there's no reason to monitor the trade minute by minute.
 
 
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  • Aug 10, 2009 8:46am Aug 10, 2009 8:46am
  •  bigjim1958
  • | Joined Jul 2006 | Status: Member | 376 Posts
Thanks to fx2248 for a great indicator. Quick question on it, shouldn't the TP1 level be the hi-lo plus the +20 on each side for the box dimensions? My calculations have TP1 at + 129 pips, could others be kind enough to correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks

Jim
 
 
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  • Aug 10, 2009 8:51am Aug 10, 2009 8:51am
  •  hafizal79
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Quoting nubchai
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Money management really helps here. If you trade an amount and set a stop that you're willing to lose, there's no reason to monitor the trade minute by minute.
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can you give some guide if i good 1000 usd how much lot should i put? 0.3?
 
 
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  • Aug 10, 2009 8:51am Aug 10, 2009 8:51am
  •  davewooldrid
  • | Joined Jun 2009 | Status: Member | 91 Posts
decline now at exactly 50% of advance from low aug 7
 
 
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  • Aug 10, 2009 8:58am Aug 10, 2009 8:58am
  •  nubchai
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Quoting hafizal79
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can you give some guide if i good 1000 usd how much lot should i put? 0.3?
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You are working with a $1000 account?
 
 
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  • Aug 10, 2009 9:01am Aug 10, 2009 9:01am
  •  hafizal79
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Quoting nubchai
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You are working with a $1000 account?
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yes
 
 
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  • Aug 10, 2009 9:16am Aug 10, 2009 9:16am
  •  Razor_trader
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Quoting hafizal79
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Some basic MM maths.

Work out the amount of that 1000 you are prepared to risk. Conservative traders are around 1-3% (meaning about $10-$30 in your case) and agressive is about 5% or $50. That is the amount you are comfortable with lossing. Then find out the risk and work your lots in from there.

So if the risk is 50 pips at 5% you are looking at 1 mini lot.

It may not sound like much, but that 1 mini lot that gets you 100 pips will equal about 10% increase in your account, which is a great result. As time progresses, and if your successful then the account will increase and hopefully so will your lots. The secret is not to look at your trades in $ value, that brings greed into the picture. You will see time and time again traders post that they double or tripled there account on 1 trade. That requires rediculous risk, rediculous Leverage and alot of luck (not skill) or a combination.

If you are new to trading, then $1000 is more than enough. If after 6 months you are seeing constant success then you should add to it, depending of course on how you want to manage your trading life (ie full time endevour, part time, Beer money for the end of week).

The other point I will make is that once you are set on a risk %, keep your trades at that. A great killer of a smooth equity curve, and ultimatly your account is constant fluctuations of risk (especially after posting a few winners you feel the need to increase it to get more (note; GREED)) only to find that you loose on that trade and it takes are larger chunk out of your account.

Wish you all the best out there. Remember to expect to loose, manage your winners when they happen and stick to a plan and things will perhaps work out alright for you in the long run

Razor
 
 
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  • Aug 10, 2009 9:19am Aug 10, 2009 9:19am
  •  nubchai
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Well a conservative approach would be 3% of the account. So if you used .03 lots (dime lots) that would be around $10 in margin. The SL is calculated in this system but let's use 100 pip SL to make it easy. 100 pips x .30/pip = $30 max loss and that's 3% of the $1000 account. That's one trade though - long or short.
 
 
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  • Aug 10, 2009 9:47am Aug 10, 2009 9:47am
  •  smikester
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I'm going to post this risk table which I find useful. It's easy to use and accurate enough for most purposes. I didn't program it - thank you to whoever it was here on FF. Don't forget that if you trade this strategy with multiple TP targets then you need to multiply your stop losses as well. (Surprisingly easy to ignore) Also if you are placing trades with other strategies on the same pair or correlated pairs eg any yen pairs part of your margin is already spoken for.

Hope someone finds this useful.


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  • Aug 10, 2009 9:51am Aug 10, 2009 9:51am
  •  fxann
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Quoting smikester
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I'm going to post this risk table which I find useful. It's easy to use and accurate enough for most purposes. I didn't program it - thank you to whoever it was here on FF. Don't forget that if you trade this strategy with multiple TP targets then you need to multiply your stop losses as well. (Surprisingly easy to ignore) Also if you are placing trades with other strategies on the same pair or correlated pairs eg any yen pairs part of your margin is already spoken for.

Hope someone finds this useful.


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Great info. Thanks smikester
 
 
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  • Aug 10, 2009 10:07am Aug 10, 2009 10:07am
  •  bapxyz
  • | Joined Jun 2006 | Status: What, NO STOPS !! | 430 Posts
I have not seen it mentioned in the lot size discussion, so just remember that the pip value changes depending on what currency your account is in and which pair you are trading. See the last column in the attached pic.
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  • Aug 10, 2009 10:26am Aug 10, 2009 10:26am
  •  dans4x
  • | Joined Mar 2007 | Status: Member | 16 Posts
Just wondering if anyone is using this system with EUR/USD or GBP/USD with much success.
 
 
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  • Aug 10, 2009 11:00am Aug 10, 2009 11:00am
  •  rapidfx
  • | Joined Nov 2006 | Status: Member | 58 Posts
my TP1 already hitted. Move others to breakeven..lest see tonight...
 
 
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  • Aug 10, 2009 11:06am Aug 10, 2009 11:06am
  •  yen44x
  • | Joined Dec 2006 | Status: AKA "Yen" | 1,654 Posts
Quoting dans4x
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Just wondering if anyone is using this system with EUR/USD or GBP/USD with much success.
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The backtest results for GBP/USD were posted yesterday:

http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...postcount=1623
Greetings from Guanajuato, Mexico
 
 
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  • Edited at 11:53am Aug 10, 2009 11:26am | Edited at 11:53am
  •  Freako
  • | Joined Aug 2009 | Status: Member | 57 Posts
This Is My First Trade.. Honestly I Start With One of The Broker With Micro Account Of $30 Only.. My Target For A Week Is At Least 30pips.. Now Price Is Below Our 1st Target Profit So I Move My Stop Loss At It.. Secure At Least 60Pips.. Ive No Regret If Price Hit My Stop Cos I Achieve 2x My Weekly Target..If Price Go Beyond My 2nd Profit,I Will Lock In My Profit At 100pips..

Any Chance For Price To Go Much Lower?? Hopefully The Bear Have Enuff Honey For This Week..


UPDATE: Price Is At 2nd Profit.. Locking My 100pips..
 
 
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  • Aug 10, 2009 11:46am Aug 10, 2009 11:46am
  •  banana9009
  • | Joined Feb 2007 | Status: Member | 405 Posts
nearly 1.5 box profit today !

Thanks ACE284 !
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  • Aug 10, 2009 12:29pm Aug 10, 2009 12:29pm
  •  fx2248
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Quoting bigjim1958
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Thanks to fx2248 for a great indicator. Quick question on it, shouldn't the TP1 level be the hi-lo plus the +20 on each side for the box dimensions? My calculations have TP1 at + 129 pips, could others be kind enough to correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks

Jim
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Hi Jim
It can be if you want , but I am happy to use multiples of the box size. The difficulty is people use different buffer sizes and have different spreads so there can be a many different calculations. If someone who knows how to program in MT4 they could make it configurable.

I actually only use the TPs as a guide and look for fib levels and S&R lines for my exits.
 
 
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  • Aug 10, 2009 1:31pm Aug 10, 2009 1:31pm
  •  bigjim1958
  • | Joined Jul 2006 | Status: Member | 376 Posts
Hi FX:
Thanks for your reply, that makes a lot of sense. My first day using your indicator and it's very profitable, thanks again.

Jim
 
 
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  • Aug 10, 2009 1:33pm Aug 10, 2009 1:33pm
  •  rapidfx
  • | Joined Nov 2006 | Status: Member | 58 Posts
TP2 hitted already....87 + 174 pips banked in..Thanks ACE for da great system...
 
 
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  • Aug 10, 2009 4:28pm Aug 10, 2009 4:28pm
  •  nubchai
  • | Joined Jan 2008 | Status: Member | 750 Posts
This really is a great system. Week after week it produces pips for me and they are fairly stress free
 
 
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