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  • #4,221
  • Edited 5:25pm Jul 31, 2009 5:14pm | Edited 5:25pm
Quoting Mombone
But when I make 35% a day, give me $100 and in a year Warren Buffett is cooking my meals.
Ok look Trade #3 from top

She took the sell on positive TRIX on everything going up

Trade went against her SELL exactly 16 pips BOLD GREEN LINE THERE( and she claims to
bailout even if it move against the trade 5 pips)
NO STOP LOSS NO protective hedge (BUY) and she sold it miraculously
with profit.. Give me a break!

Ok look BLUE LINE CROSES when she took the SELL????
And RED LINE CROSES when she "Cover"

It looks even better on the Renko Next BRICK is actually went UP not down

Trade number 3 from TOP...
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  • #4,222
  • Edited 5:28pm Jul 31, 2009 5:16pm | Edited 5:28pm
Looks even better on Renko

Anywhere you see SELL signal??? Please show it to me
Do you see my point or what??? MA is up. There is uptrend
Tricks is up STO is "BUY", "TurboGirl" "Sinc" is a screaming BUY and she Sell ABOVE GREEN MA?
Right..
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  • #4,223
  • Jul 31, 2009 5:16pm Jul 31, 2009 5:16pm
Thanks for all Anne, you are a truly inspiring human being

tex.
  • #4,224
  • Jul 31, 2009 5:23pm Jul 31, 2009 5:23pm
Hi TG It will help a lot if you can program the horizontal lines in the sinc spectrum cycle( see attached picture) which one can set at different levels and an alarm if the line of the indicator move above or below these levels when a new bar open. Thank you anyway for a nice indicator.
  • #4,225
  • Jul 31, 2009 5:28pm Jul 31, 2009 5:28pm
Quoting SkyzerFX
Ok look Trade #3 from top

She took the sell on positive TRIX on everything going up

Trade went against her SELL exactly 16 pips BOLD GREEN LINE THERE( and she claims to
bailout even if it move against the trade 5 pips)
NO STOP LOSS NO protective hedge (BUY) and she sold it miraculously
with profit.. Give me a break!

Ok look BLUE LINE CROSES when she took the SELL????
And RED LINE CROSES when she "Cover"

It looks even better on the Renko Next BRICK is actually went UP not down

Trade number 3 from TOP...
What are you basing this on?

Just the times and price on your platform verses the time listed on her statement?
  • #4,226
  • Jul 31, 2009 5:31pm Jul 31, 2009 5:31pm
Here is the picture
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  • #4,227
  • Jul 31, 2009 5:32pm Jul 31, 2009 5:32pm
Quoting redhouse
What are you basing this on?
Just the times and price on your platform verses the time listed on her statement?
Well just don't be lazy take her trade and look your actual Data..
I do have Live Account and we all trade at GM time.. No difference
Data is the same.
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  • #4,228
  • Jul 31, 2009 5:33pm Jul 31, 2009 5:33pm
Quoting DETrader
I use their Micro platform and moved over from their US platform because of the new NFA rules. I am happy with their micro platform, but I can't speak for their non micro accounts.
The FXCM Micro Platform ist very good and professionel,..., since years, until now. They make good market orders and if you have something, they aim to do something for you. That's correct.

The characteristic feature of its new immediate environment FXCM MT4
[/url]is a shoddy and corrupt organization, I think with new criminal practice behaviour!

But I think it's not the right place, telling here more on this marvellous threat induced by Edgetrader.
clear view:
http://www.forexfactory.com/t/181175/p_2919408/fxcm-trading-station-rejecting-orders-2.html#post2919408 (http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&p=thMx..&search=characteristic)
[url]http://www.forexfactory.com/t/181175/p_2920264/fxcm-trading-station-rejecting-orders-2.html#post2920264
Kindest regards
Christian
  • #4,229
  • Jul 31, 2009 5:35pm Jul 31, 2009 5:35pm
Well, I for one, have more important things to focus my energy on than trying to disprove and slander. At the end of the day only your account cares so lets all just get back to the reason we are here.
This chart looks like a mess of arrows, but for comparison sake:
I have TGSS, Trix 2 and Trix 4 in the indicator window.
There are all kinds of great set ups both risky and not. The TGSS indo is very interesting and I have spent many hours messing with it. I finally got it to a point where it looks like it actually means something...now if I could just figure out what that is! There are all kinds of clues in this set up, please feel free to chime in with ideas.
Q
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  • #4,230
  • Jul 31, 2009 5:36pm Jul 31, 2009 5:36pm
Quoting SkyzerFX
Well just don't be lazy take her trade and look your actual Data..
I do have Live Account and we all trade at GM time.. No difference
Data is the same.
Different platforms (brokers) align their times differently on charts.

I have 3 different accounts and none of the line up.

Unless you know who she uses and what their start of day is you can not tell if your charts align with hers or not.
  • #4,231
  • Jul 31, 2009 5:36pm Jul 31, 2009 5:36pm
Quoting Egros
Here is the picture
Picture of what? Trade I'm talking about is on EURUSD
7/30 1:45 GT 3 row in her statement.. I'm sure there is plenty
more, I just took that row as an example..
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  • #4,232
  • Jul 31, 2009 5:39pm Jul 31, 2009 5:39pm
Quoting paidperpip
I would like to take this opportunity to thank all of those people on this thread who have a personal vendetta that this not directly related to improving their own trading success, and contributing to the success of others, but rather an ego driven desire to win the latest pissing competition.

It is through your inability to keep your big yaps shut that drives away people from this thread....
Mr Paidperpip..
first think i must point out is if you are really mature you would have find a job A fulltime if not atleast a part time job so that u can give ur family and parents an immidiate support..
2nd of all .. you are totally relying on a thread in forexfactory about a system which is under development.
3rd of all.. I'm not saying TG is doing sumthing fake. But it would be much better if she has show us the strategy she follows.. no one is after her EA or code. But if some has decided to put some input or discuss a strategy in a public free forum he or she better show us the whole thing rather than just trade profits..

tell me by the looking at all thoes winning trades.. did u manage to get any financial support for your family. I guess not..

I am sure TG worked hard and put lot of time energy etc etc to come up with this strategy and if she really wanted to show her success she should have opened a thread at trading journal not in a thread where a system is in developing phase..

Man.. i know how hard it is to pass through financial difficulties.. but the most mature thing to do in this situation is not to look at someone's trading results.. rather look for a job...


Hope you overcome with your financial hardship...
best of luck
  • #4,233
  • Jul 31, 2009 5:41pm Jul 31, 2009 5:41pm
Quoting redhouse
I have 3 different accounts and none of the line up.
Forget about her, it's all clear now, but what are you saying???
I can buy EURO on 1 Account at 1.40 and then Sell at the other
at 1.43 at the same time.. FOREX Market is GLOBAL..
Prices are SEC to SEC match everywhere.
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  • #4,234
  • Jul 31, 2009 5:50pm Jul 31, 2009 5:50pm
Quoting SkyzerFX
Ok look Trade #3 from top

She took the sell on positive TRIX on everything going up

Trade went against her SELL exactly 16 pips BOLD GREEN LINE THERE( and she claims to
bailout even if it move against the trade 5 pips)
NO STOP LOSS NO protective hedge (BUY) and she sold it miraculously
with profit.. Give me a break!

Ok look BLUE LINE CROSES when she took the SELL????
And RED LINE CROSES when she "Cover"

It looks even better on the Renko Next BRICK is actually went UP not down

Trade number 3 from TOP...
To be fair, you need to marry up her broker times with yours to make a valid comparison ( unless of course you've done that)
What bothers me about the statements are two things.
One, look at the times of trades that appear to be taken by the ea - nearly all of them are at times ending with 05/15/30/45 etc., esp the ones with a 100 profit. Yet, Tg has stated previously that trades are taken before the close of the renko bricks, based upon momentum - that doesn't tie up with the statement. I'd expect trades to be opened at various minutes. Two, how can you have negative tp, since mt4 will reject the trade saying Invalid tp/Sl.
As in an earlier post, I'd love to be shown to be wrong, and hope I am wrong, because to be right would mean that this is a cruel joke on newbies who in these difficult times cling on in the hope of economic salvation through forex, which of course is attainable through the "right" mentor.
Pardy
  • #4,235
  • Jul 31, 2009 5:56pm Jul 31, 2009 5:56pm
Quoting lrathi
It is called answering the posts posted while I am alseep in the southern hemishpere. Northern Hemisphere traders are asleep then...

Not very OBSERVANT!

Thanks for making my day.
All my life I thought time zones changed from east to west, not north to south. I've been terribly misled by everybody!

Must be that time of the month every week for our friend in the southern hemisphere.
  • #4,236
  • Jul 31, 2009 6:03pm Jul 31, 2009 6:03pm
Quoting JazzmanQ2
I think that is a problem with using standard indicators with Renko. Since its not based on TF most indicators just kind of wag their tails following PA until the next brick is formed. That's why 25% is mechanical and the rest is all you.
Q
This is my first post here and I guess I have to lose my virginity sometime. It seems the thread is accelerating as I find that even though I am reading the posts every chance I get, I glance at the notation associated with each post as to how many hours ago it was done. Yesterday, I was treading water at "10 hours ago". Today I am
falling behind as the current posts are 22 hours ago. As it is now the weekend, I will get caught up to the current time, then loop back a couple thousand posts and get caught up there. It is amazing that this has created a new definition of a day. 24 hours sees so many posts, so many charts and new versionas of the multiple indicators at times that this is definitely livin large. A lot to digest.
I agree with this post as to how a standard indicator such as stochastic could have multiple and reverse crossings in the real time price data that wouold transpire that would end up being masked within the tidy little final Renko bar. That would make taking such signals before a bar closing potentially dangerous, except where there is anticipation of the prognosis of the final bar format based on Swingman's indicators or some other method.
Regarding the statement that the application of the C4 and Nitro variants is 25% mechanical and 75% due to trader discretion; I wholeheartedly disagree. If we believe that several EA's have already been crafted, such as Tudor Girl's that are performing near 100% correct, then logic follows that such an EA is 100% mechanical as is the nature of a coded trading system. If the computer code mimics decisions that look like discretion, it is only within the code pathways, programmed into the system. Once an EA is wound up and it's plunger is pulled, there is no more human trader involved.
Thus, if it is possible to produce such an EA, then it is by definition possible to discard the human "je ne sais quoa" intangible gris gris as unnecessary to its success in the trading process ( except maybe for turning it off during news, if this is not automatic, unscheduled news, world catastophes, etc. or other supervisory tasks). The human trader's intelligence, experience, feel of the market, insight, etc. stop after the code is debugged and functioning properly. To believe both that the human is 75% and 0% is contradictory. I like the appeal of not relying on discretion, emotions, human error. The expectation for long-term, reliable and positive results is better as well though not as much of a rush as clicking the mouse to pull the plunger. In almost four decades in the markets, I still like the rush, but I don't think that is the best way, now that we have the potential for our pet computers to assist us.
  • #4,237
  • Jul 31, 2009 6:06pm Jul 31, 2009 6:06pm
Quoting Pardy
To be fair, you need to marry up her broker times with yours to make a valid comparison ( unless of course you've done that)
What bothers me about the statements are two things.
One, look at the times of trades that appear to be taken by the ea - all of them are at times ending with 05/15/30/45 etc. Yet, Tg has stated previously that trades are taken before the close of the renko bricks, based upon momentum - that doesn't tie up with the statement. Two, how can you have negative tp, since mt4 will reject the trade saying Invalid tp/Sl.
As in an...
And Edge has been that mentor. We need to go back to square one and get everyone on same page. The original C4 was very profitable. The basic Renko is profitable, check out post #4171. Forget TG and focus on SwingMan's indys, they are a big part of this thread. So everyone lets let TG go, have a few beers this weekend and some good Bar-B-Que and come back ready to move forward. Our homework assignments for the weekend is to re-read all Edge's posts and return with clear minds.
Thanks to Edge, SwingMan, 4xtrader2, DXtrade, and all other who have been positive contributers to this thread.

See ya all after the weekend
Mombone
  • #4,238
  • Jul 31, 2009 6:09pm Jul 31, 2009 6:09pm
Well said, and hopefully enough said. Lets move on, not dwell in the past.

Quoting Mombone
And Edge has been that mentor....
Read the entire thread BEFORE you ask questions!
  • #4,239
  • Jul 31, 2009 6:09pm Jul 31, 2009 6:09pm
Quoting Pardy
To be fair, you need to marry up her broker times with yours to make a valid comparison ( unless of course you've done that)
What bothers me about the statements are two things.
One, look at the times of trades that appear to be taken by the ea - nearly all of them are at times ending with 05/15/30/45 etc., esp the ones with a 100 profit. Yet, Tg has stated previously that trades are taken before the close of the renko bricks, based upon momentum - that doesn't tie up with the statement. I'd expect trades to be opened at various minutes. Two, how...
Pardy
you are 100% right. the best way to learn to trade forex through a right mentor.. but unfortunatly TG was rather showing Trading results than help us to learn the method..

anyway guys honestly if you really wanna learn trading forex .. learn from a person who really interested helping people learn forex..
  • #4,240
  • Jul 31, 2009 6:10pm Jul 31, 2009 6:10pm
Whatever individual opinions of Anne, her departure, if that's what it proves to be, is ultimately the best outcome for this thread.

While many may not agree, the fact is she had become a substantial distraction to the community efforts of this developmental group. Anne is clearly very bright and dealt in concepts and implementations that seemed beyond many (including me) in the forum. Her unwillingness to share clear insight to such complex material caused great frustration it's clear. She espoused a learn or burn philosophy when the concepts she developed were beyond the great majority here. Contrast this with the Edge philosophy that has delivered both sufficient insight and, importantly, motivation for the average trader to progress with this method and feel ready to invest in researching and refining it.

I wish her every success in trading her methods but for the less cerebrally equipped I also welcome a return to the main focus of the group which will hopefully now follow.
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