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  • #3,561
  • Jul 29, 2009 9:19pm Jul 29, 2009 9:19pm
Quoting GregB
Hi
I've been trying to load the indicators (listed on page 1) into my Metatrader platform but it keeps crashing.
I've tried with other Metatrader platforms with no success.
...or know of a solution or something that I might be doing wrong.
Greg
(Put all indis in folder:...experts/indicators. Start your platform).
Try it again. There aren't any problems!
christian
  • #3,562
  • Jul 29, 2009 9:20pm Jul 29, 2009 9:20pm
Asian Trading is interesting. Have been trying to find different combinations that may help refive the MT4 material also.

Part of me wishes I would have just kept my yap shut about Nitro. Too late for that now it seems.

Anyway, regardless of what a trader uses indicator wise, the key to me is the Trix. As long as it is showing some manner of strength at all, a fast moving pair can get to +5 quickly. Have already managed a +20 for the evening and not even trying to hard.

DX already has a +5 on the board with EU. So, I am still leaning towards folks just trading the thing as best they can and moving along. There have not been many posting on dismal failures, so there is some really positive energy in the pipeline with MT4 it seems. A couple more days will provide a better picture.

Regards.
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  • #3,563
  • Jul 29, 2009 9:22pm Jul 29, 2009 9:22pm
First of all as requested the Info Panel with settings for the font size.
Nothing else changed...

C4 Indi still working on it...
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"The only successful substitute for brains is silence."
  • #3,564
  • Jul 29, 2009 9:28pm Jul 29, 2009 9:28pm
Sorry to be a beginner pain-n-the-butt. But can someone help me? I am trying to learn this but there is a lot of different stuff being added. This is what I got. Is it right?

Also, has that "tudergirl spectrum indy been posted? If not could I please try it out?

Thanks,

fxst
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  • #3,565
  • Jul 29, 2009 9:28pm Jul 29, 2009 9:28pm
Thanks. I like scalping and I will demo it
  • #3,566
  • Jul 29, 2009 9:39pm Jul 29, 2009 9:39pm
Renko +10 E/J

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  • #3,567
  • Jul 29, 2009 9:41pm Jul 29, 2009 9:41pm
Quoting redhouse
It is possible that I am so simple minded that I just do not understand all of this.

You seem to find it easy to produce serious returns (90%+) using your platform, but are unable to reproduce that (apparently) on mt4.

Seems simple. Next step must be TS. Right? Can see no other possibility.
I am assuming you are not aware of how much testing and work went into the trading plan for TS. It may seem simple, but took me almost a year to get it just how I wanted it. And that was with candlesticks. Only the newer version had Renko, so much of the work had to be redone. That was just the mechanical aspects. As I am not a coder, the TS easy language alone caused me a great deal of grief in general. It was like going to school all over again. As a layman in the computer science field, even coming up with a custom EL script was a daunting task. It is nothing to others, but everything to some.

The mental part was even more taxing as you have to marry the plan heart and soul. You have to trade your plan with as little emotion as possible. That takes screen time, and a hell of a lot more than the few days we have been playing with it.

I have said on a few occasions that trading is 25% mechanical and 75% mental. It is again important to note that Nitro was never released to the thread, it was submitted for preview.

This thread has been provided some pretty solid material to work with. That has been gratefully acknowledged on more than a few occasions by many.

To be honest, I am not quite ready to simply give away the cumulative value of my efforts on a whim. TS is available to anyone who wants to open an account there, same as with any brokerage. They have an excellent tool base also. However, as we are all doing with MT4 right now, a person with TS should be prepared to do a little work on their own.

One more time the mantra surfaces.

Learn and earn
or
Learn or burn

Regards.
  • #3,568
  • Jul 29, 2009 9:55pm Jul 29, 2009 9:55pm
Quoting Edgetrader
Ok, might as well chime in here before we start going off into outer space with this method also.

Lets review Nitro a bit.

Here is what I see happening as of today.

1 - Trading done with 5 brick level.

2 - Multiple trades after initial signal.

3 - Focus on ONE pair.

4 - Focus on WRONG pair.

5 - Searching for indi's a bit still.

6 - Testing at various settings.

7 - Lack of faith.

Here is what was provided to demo trade until the lightbulb comes on.

'Nitro' is Renko set at 10 tic brick size. Not 5, or 7 or 11 or 17 or 3 or 2....
Edge,

I resurrect this post of yours from a couple days ago because I am a bit uncertain as to how to proceed.

In the post above, you go on about how the system has been optimized and proven, and come down pretty hard on people for trying to do a little bit of work.

Then in your last post you say:

". . . a person with TS should be prepared to do a little work on their own." because you don't want to give away the farm. And I can't blame you!

So which is it? I am fully prepared to do the work, I am just not sure where to go from here.

BTW, you asked me earlier about which version of TS I am using. I already posted earlier, but if you missed it: Version 8.5 Build 2289.

Thanks,
Doc
  • #3,569
  • Jul 29, 2009 10:03pm Jul 29, 2009 10:03pm
Here you go with the HMA filtered C4 arrows.
Not perfect and missing some good trades, but a huge +5 hit rate... good enough for me.
Better miss one then take one too many

No guarantee from my side....
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  • #3,570
  • Jul 29, 2009 10:04pm Jul 29, 2009 10:04pm
Quoting DXTrade
1st Test successful
I download your indicator but your screen looks different than mine. Can you please post all your indicator. It looks simple and profitable it can help me on my trading. Thank You in advance.
  • #3,571
  • Jul 29, 2009 10:08pm Jul 29, 2009 10:08pm
Quoting DXTrade
Here you go with the HMA filtered C4 arrows.
Not perfect and missing some good trades, but a huge +5 hit rate... good enough for me.
Better miss one then take one too many

No guarantee from my side....
You enter on the bar after the arrow...correct??? If so couldn't you enter on a stop because you know the next brick opens 10 pips from the close of the brick with arrow?? Just trying to wrap my mind around this.

Thanks

Mombone
  • #3,572
  • Jul 29, 2009 10:08pm Jul 29, 2009 10:08pm
Regarding post 3502 chart- what is the indicator that gives the up/down arrows on the main price chart. Thank you.
  • #3,573
  • Jul 29, 2009 10:10pm Jul 29, 2009 10:10pm
Quoting Mombone
You enter on the bar after the arrow...correct??? If so couldn't you enter on a stop because you know the next brick opens 10 pips from the close of the brick with arrow?? Just trying to wrap my mind around this.

Thanks

Mombone
Sure you can, but the arrow appears and disappears during the current brick, so I wait until the new brick starts and even wait for a small retrace to enter with a better price.
"The only successful substitute for brains is silence."
  • #3,574
  • Edited 10:23pm Jul 29, 2009 10:12pm | Edited 10:23pm
Quoting altoronto
Renko +10 E/J

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It seems to me that by comparing the signals of the spectrum as it passes the -/+ .075 levels, when the spectrum line breaks the -.075 level coming from below it corresponds with the beginning of an uptrend on the renko and conversely, when the spectrum line breaks the +.075 level from above it corresponds with the beginning of a down trend on the renko. As long as the entry this gives you is confirmed by the HMA/LWMA slope/colour it looks good at first glance.

I realise this is completely contrary to TG's suggestion but waiting for the spectrum to cross the zero line and hit the -/+ .075 on the other side seems to get into the renko run up/down too late.

I will experiment using -/+ 0.1 to see if that would work better and report back later on
  • #3,575
  • Jul 29, 2009 10:18pm Jul 29, 2009 10:18pm
Quoting SwingMan
Just a recomandation for users of the Renko Signals / Trix indicators.

(I have not the time to programe this indicator combination, but the result is interesting...)

Renko Signals setting (I used the 10 pips bricks):
TrendReverse = true
TrendSideways = true
FirstTrendContinuation = true (default is false)
DrawEntrys = true
DrawSignals = true
MovingAverageFilter = false...

I don't see a lot of discussion on what is described in the above post. However I am consistently amazed at how accurate it continues to be. There is so much going on in this thread that I thought I'd point this out again. It's very much worth reviewing.
  • #3,576
  • Jul 29, 2009 10:18pm Jul 29, 2009 10:18pm
Quoting marciano
I download your indicator but your screen looks different than mine. Can you please post all your indicator. It looks simple and profitable it can help me on my trading. Thank You in advance.
Thats all I have.. the rest is design...
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  • #3,577
  • Jul 29, 2009 10:23pm Jul 29, 2009 10:23pm
Good example od a +5 trade although the brick might close on the wrong side.
I entered with a -2 retracement of the open of the brick after the arrow short, took +5 (it went about +7) and then PA went back up.
So in hindsight it would be a losing trade, in real life it was another +5
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  • #3,578
  • Jul 29, 2009 10:24pm Jul 29, 2009 10:24pm
Quoting DXTrade
Thats all I have.. the rest is design...
can you tell where can I download all the indicators. I would love to test this into my lice account. Thank You.
  • #3,579
  • Jul 29, 2009 10:26pm Jul 29, 2009 10:26pm
On further review (.075/-.075) seems to lag too much. Am returning back to the zero line. Also trying a stepma for s/r and better filter my trades in conjunction with TG sync spectrum.

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  • #3,580
  • Jul 29, 2009 10:27pm Jul 29, 2009 10:27pm
Can you post the HMA Candles indicator. Thank you.
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