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  • #3,501
  • Jul 29, 2009 2:06pm Jul 29, 2009 2:06pm
Quoting stevecartwright
Not sure how as it uses another indicator and doesn't actually draw the arrows itself. I can't enter into a long debate but wish you well.
I think the idea was to get the arrow signal for an EA withiut having to de-compile the indicator in order to see which EXTBuffer contained the value.

However, it is much easier to determine the arrow's existance by the occurance of the event which triggers it - namely the Trix corssing the zero line.

A case of why make thing simple when you can make them much more complicated. This in fact is the norm with indicators being re-gurgitated re-named and re-hyped constantly by the dew who should know better and the many who follow blindly withou understanding what it is they are following. I can think of a PHd in the first group and a doctor the second group, so intelligence has nothing to do with it.

Ian.
  • #3,502
  • Jul 29, 2009 2:07pm Jul 29, 2009 2:07pm
Quoting Edgetrader
Alot of taunting from another poster this morning. The gauntlet was thrown down and here it is picked up and answered.

Spectrum work is quite nice and very close. In fact, a minor tweak will be all that is needed. The entries compare well to my own Nitro, and are lagging by about 2.2 tics it seems.

[....]

Regards.
Hmmm... So near and yet so far... 2.2 ticks and counting....

I am very much enjoying this game!!

Anne
  • #3,503
  • Jul 29, 2009 2:08pm Jul 29, 2009 2:08pm
Quoting paradoxical
Swingman's previous post and observation about the EUR/USD continues to amaze. Again today there were yet three more trades that would pick up 10 pips and more. Am not sure the "whys" for this, but most likeley due to continued momentum of price. But, his observation is still batting 100%. Below are two charts from today and yeserday showing 6 trades that were all winners. Very difficult to argue with this sort of result, which is only a continuation of what Swingman found was 100% winners in a longer back test he made.
Not that this system isn't...
I have been testing this on 7 pairs and it works 100 % my entry is a limit order at the tip of the SM Fractals which appear every time the resistance at that point in the direction of the trend is going to be breached. I use COG to determinr the correct trend. It works for me perfectly.
  • #3,504
  • Jul 29, 2009 2:13pm Jul 29, 2009 2:13pm
Quoting stevecartwright
Hi Everyone, having read a lot of the posts can I just ask someone to let me know when you have found "it" whatever it may be. It seems to be a frantic search at the moment. Good hunting to everyone.
Hey Steve,
I think I've "found it" but time will tell.

I'm not going after scalp trades, I'm after the 50 to 100 pip moves that occur ten times a day over the top 10 pairs. Last night as I slept, 500 pips went by and with a simple trailing stop and a 30 initial pip sl I could have made around 300 pips. I'm not a machine and therefore I miss a lot of them even when I'm awake. Wrote a TRIX_Announcer indicator this morning that speaks the buy/sell, the pair and the tf of the chart that has the trade opportunity. Now I need an EA to work at night. Got it written but need to test it. And the source of those TRIX indicators from Swingman should keep me from computing with the wrong numbers.
John
  • #3,505
  • Jul 29, 2009 2:21pm Jul 29, 2009 2:21pm
Edge,
On your charts like the one on post #1698 you show the trades with entry and exits marked and dotted line in between. Is this an MT4 Indicator?

I've checked the list of indicators for the forum and don't seem to find anything that matches that.

I have that type of indicator automatically in TS but would love to have it in MT4.
Thanks,
4XTrader2
  • #3,506
  • Edited 2:23pm Jul 29, 2009 2:22pm | Edited 2:23pm
wow, I was away for a few days on a visa run trip, just read through the last 40 pages, great tip about the ignore button, a good bs filter is a real time saver.

another 4% day with C4, very easy.

my observations for anyone interested, personally I will mainly use C4 with just the euro, aus and u/j (u/j wasn't listed in original, it is slower but I find it works very well), most losses I have had since trading c4 were on the pound and e/j. No more pound for me with C4 and I will trade the e/j very carefully.

for people that aren't aware of this, when u/j and euro goes up, e/j goes up very quickly and when u/j and euro goes down e/j goes down quickly. when they go opposite ways it is not so predictable so I only trade e/j when it looks like both the euro and u/j are at support or resistance and c4 shows they are about to make a move in the same direction.

getting plenty of signals on just the aus, euro and u/j


Thanks Edge for not bailing on this thread! you obviously have a lot of patience. There are people here that really value your advice. These last 2 weeks have been a real gift and it will change my life bigtime.

I just got renko up and running, looking forward to using it as an additional weapon of choice!
  • #3,507
  • Jul 29, 2009 2:23pm Jul 29, 2009 2:23pm
Quoting hoichoi
edgetrader
since you are the master of this thread you should put a new version of c4. there is atleast 15 version here.. ppl started to adding renko stuff.. getting to confusing.. as u said less is better get an a C4 V1 with this idea in mind. less is better.. and since it is an scalping method i don't mind having 5 pips profit here n there.. becus at the end it all adds up... i hope you will come up with V1

thanks
Yeah, in theory that would be a good idea.

However, even if I were to start a new thread with the version I am currently using, we would still have additional indicators brought forth for inspection.

I already made a few attempts at asking that new indi's be proofed-up so to speak and those attempts failed. I think this is what gets threads drawn out in the beginning.

Overall, this thread is tolerable. You have 2 plans available to trade as you wish. And, you have around 100 indicators to choose from to augment your decision making process. In the end, it is the PA that will trigger the indicators used and we all have the same basic trade, just with different indicators used. If this were a commercial thread, that would be a different story. With a cost factor thrown into the equation, an individuals focus and mindset turns from 'creative' to 'productive'. Nobody makes any coin testing indicators out.

So, I think I will just keep things stable a while here. There are some interesting things going on within the thread from a creative perspective, and also some solid efforts being put forth from a productivity standpoint.

As long as there are those gaining benefit from the thread as it is, then all is well. Yeah, you might have to read a bit and do a little work, but it won't kill anyone.

Primer, detonator and plunger. Any combination of indi's that makes it seemingly comfortable in the mind to blow things up consistently works for me.

Regards.
  • #3,508
  • Jul 29, 2009 2:29pm Jul 29, 2009 2:29pm
Quoting mgs1f
I have been testing this on 7 pairs and it works 100 % my entry is a limit order at the tip of the SM Fractals which appear every time the resistance at that point in the direction of the trend is going to be breached. I use COG to determinr the correct trend. It works for me perfectly.
Hello,
Can you post a chart please? sounds great!
What is COG en how is it used?
Thanks,
Caz
  • #3,509
  • Jul 29, 2009 2:30pm Jul 29, 2009 2:30pm
No sooner did I make my first trade based on my post, it was a loser! This particular one not a good time to trade, also probably at trend exhaustion. Even so, a loss is a loss, and can no longer say 100%.
(Glad I didn't bet my jaguar on it)
Quoting mgs1f
I have been testing this on 7 pairs and it works 100 % my entry is a limit order at the tip of the SM Fractals which appear every time the resistance at that point in the direction of the trend is going to be breached. I use COG to determinr the correct trend. It works for me perfectly.
  • #3,510
  • Jul 29, 2009 2:31pm Jul 29, 2009 2:31pm
Quoting 4xtrader2
Edge,
On your charts like the one on post #1698 you show the trades with entry and exits marked and dotted line in between. Is this an MT4 Indicator?

I've checked the list of indicators for the forum and don't seem to find anything that matches that.

I have that type of indicator automatically in TS but would love to have it in MT4.
Thanks,
Nope, no super indicator on this one.

Simply look at your terminal 'completed trades' section and click on a completed trade. Then drag and drop it to your chart. Mission accomplished.

Regards.
  • #3,511
  • Jul 29, 2009 2:32pm Jul 29, 2009 2:32pm
Quoting 4xtrader2
Edge,
On your charts like the one on post #1698 you show the trades with entry and exits marked and dotted line in between. Is this an MT4 Indicator?

I've checked the list of indicators for the forum and don't seem to find anything that matches that.

I have that type of indicator automatically in TS but would love to have it in MT4.
Thanks,
Edge,
Nevermind the last request about this. Was rereading posts and came upon the answer. Just shows you how much water you have to pour on a stone to get it to sink in...duh!
4XTrader2
  • #3,512
  • Jul 29, 2009 2:32pm Jul 29, 2009 2:32pm
Quoting paradoxical
...Even so, a loss is a loss, and can no longer say 100%.
OK, say 99%...

But, I think is better to not charge the thread with a third profit-making system.
  • #3,513
  • Jul 29, 2009 2:36pm Jul 29, 2009 2:36pm
Quoting paradoxical
No sooner did I make my first trade based on my post, it was a loser! This particular one not a good time to trade, also probably at trend exhaustion. Even so, a loss is a loss, and can no longer say 100%.
(Glad I didn't bet my jaguar on it)
Damn, now at 98%. Life is dealing you a bad hand now for sure.

Back to laboratory??????? , or will you catch the PA train on the next turn and seek revenge????

Regards.
  • #3,514
  • Jul 29, 2009 2:42pm Jul 29, 2009 2:42pm
Quoting Syahmi
Guys.....

HMA default settings "Channel" - a clearer trend I guess !

Cheers !
Hello Syahmi,
Thanks for your postings. Can You give a little more info please with your postings. Do you mean HMA color nrp settings 20/0/3/true/2/0?
How can I set the high and low band en how are you using it in your trading?
Thanks,
Caz
  • #3,515
  • Jul 29, 2009 2:45pm Jul 29, 2009 2:45pm
Quoting SwingMan
Update smRenko Signals_v3 indicator.

- With the new input "Draw_NewBrickLines = true" you can see the next levels where new bricks will arise.
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Is the source available for this? I'd like to create a copy for dukascopy.
Just my 2 pips worth
  • #3,516
  • Jul 29, 2009 2:49pm Jul 29, 2009 2:49pm
Quoting saltcafe
Is the source available for this? I'd like to create a copy for dukascopy.
I'm sory, but the Renko indicator is not finished, and I don't post the source code.
  • #3,517
  • Jul 29, 2009 2:56pm Jul 29, 2009 2:56pm
Quoting Syahmi
Guys.....

HMA default settings "Channel" - a clearer trend I guess !

Cheers !
Hi, Syahmi ..... is your chart anything to do with Edgetrader's C4 method (and this thread)? It doesn't appear so. I don't understand your chart ..... and it's very difficult to see with its dark background and colours.

If it is C4 method, would be interested to see lighter (easier to see on the thread) charts, and a detailed explanation of your indicators and how you trade .... primer, trigger, other things taken into the trade decision, etc.
  • #3,518
  • Jul 29, 2009 3:06pm Jul 29, 2009 3:06pm
Quoting caz
Hello,
Can you post a chart please? sounds great!
What is COG en how is it used?
Thanks,
Caz
I am at work now but will post a chart when i get home tonight for you.
COG is Center of Gravity read up on it in this same forum do a search on the top. I use it only to confirm trend, nothing else. I use support and resistance to time entry.
  • #3,519
  • Jul 29, 2009 3:15pm Jul 29, 2009 3:15pm
[quote=sony;2913611]
Quoting Gleneagles


Thanks a lot...Now i will show you my trades and if ou can confirm it ..that it is right staff

Thanks a lot man..you help me...again a lot!!!!

Entry need to be on the very fist bar or...?

You can see it on my atached chart and if you can tell me what i am doing wrong
Nothing wrong with your chart, you are just using it in a different way.

I use normal candlesticks.
I respect the 15m trend when trading on 5M TF.

4 trades.

1) Sell at LDN/EUR open in line with 15M trend
2) Buy ( Rollover 15M trend all other trading conditions met)
3) Buy (Re-entry)
4) Buy (Re-entry)

I think it is quite simple and straightforward?
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" Never let the past hold the future to ransom "
  • #3,520
  • Jul 29, 2009 3:27pm Jul 29, 2009 3:27pm
Nope. But I do need to win back 33 pips, so I'll be better than even with the next four straight wins. I don't double down after a loss like some do, or quit something after one loss. I just wish the loss would come after at least one win!!! Particularly on a 98% system!! (system!!#@!
Quoting Edgetrader
Damn)

quote=Edgetrader;2913696]Damn, now at 98%. Life is dealing you a bad hand now for sure.

Back to laboratory??????? , or will you catch the PA train on the next turn and seek revenge????

Regards.
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