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  • #2,441
  • Jul 24, 2009 2:19pm Jul 24, 2009 2:19pm
Quoting Indrek
Hope, the Renko advertising campaign is also over now I already had a doubt that this thread has become commercial and supported by Renko sellers
Have a nice weekend too!
I've followed the thread from the beginning and have remained passive until now. I'm really fed up with your remarks Indrek and I guess most of the thread readers are. You apparently have some kind of an ego problem and it becomes clearer with every post you place.

You have to stop this now since there's really no benefit for the community in your sarcastic remarks. What is your point? You don't really believe Edge, who has made a heck of a job in introducing the simple system to the community, is connected in any way with any renko sellers, do you? You really need to grow up and stop this confrontational attitude now.
  • #2,442
  • Jul 24, 2009 2:20pm Jul 24, 2009 2:20pm
Gettin kinda lost here. Is the Renko that Edge is refering to the one from MQL Service???

Thanks
Mombone
  • #2,443
  • Jul 24, 2009 2:22pm Jul 24, 2009 2:22pm
Quoting Mombone
Gettin kinda lost here. Is the Renko that Edge is refering to the one from MQL Service???

Thanks
Mombone

Yes it is.
  • #2,444
  • Jul 24, 2009 2:23pm Jul 24, 2009 2:23pm
Quoting jackal
I've followed the thread from the beginning and have remained passive until now. I'm really fed up with your remarks Indrek and I guess most of the thread readers are. You apparently have some kind of an ego problem and it becomes clearer with every post you place.

[color=black][font=Verdana]You have to stop this now since there's really no benefit for the community in your sarcastic remarks. What is your point? You don't really believe Edge, who has made a heck of a job in introducing the simple system...
I must disagree...I don't think Indrek did anything wrong.
  • #2,445
  • Jul 24, 2009 2:24pm Jul 24, 2009 2:24pm
Edge, I took a look at my EURJPY chart matched up against the image you posted, put a 3 period Trix on it, and it appears a trix cross of zero is not what is triggering your trades on the EA. I am going to keep playing around with a trigger and see if I can get it to match your orders, but I am assuming the primer would be a new renko bar in the color of the direction you want to trade based on a trigger alert.
  • #2,446
  • Jul 24, 2009 2:24pm Jul 24, 2009 2:24pm
Quoting tommyd
Yes it is.
Thanks

Mombone
  • #2,447
  • Jul 24, 2009 2:30pm Jul 24, 2009 2:30pm
Quoting bruiser
This is an "Open Office" spreadsheet.
Hope it helps !
Save to desktop then open with spreadsheet program.
"Open Office" is a free office program.
If needed, goggle it.

Steve

hi steve,

thanks 4 converting the file to this. can't open edge's excel file with my open office.
  • #2,448
  • Jul 24, 2009 2:35pm Jul 24, 2009 2:35pm
Quoting jackal
I've followed the thread from the beginning and have remained passive until now. I'm really fed up with your remarks Indrek and I guess most of the thread readers are. You apparently have some kind of an ego problem and it becomes clearer with every post you place.

[color=black][font=Verdana]You have to stop this now since there's really no benefit for the community in your sarcastic remarks. What is your point? You don't really believe Edge, who has made a heck of a job in introducing the simple system...
I am very sorry if you have such a feeling! Maybe it comes from the fact that English is not my native language and I even do not use it in my real life. So, most probably I am not finding the right words or expressions very often.
I do not have any problems with Edge and am quite sure that he has no problems with me. In fact, we just changed PMs and I clarified some unsolved issues with my trading.
I am a very grown up person, believe me. Nearing 50 ys, if it is interesting to know.

And one more thing: I have never accused Edge in connections with Renko sellers. But very many posts here have been about how and where to buy Renko etc. instead of concentrating on what Edge has to give us. In fact, Edge noted from very beginning that we should not mess with Renko but to train simple trading!
  • #2,449
  • Jul 24, 2009 2:42pm Jul 24, 2009 2:42pm
Quoting Tw0eleven
Ok, I'm just going to throw this out there....but does anyone else think this thread has gotten away from the 1st post? In the beginning it was Pick 1 primer and 1 detonator and trade that based on price action. Now we have a couple different Trix indicators on the chart, some type of moving average and scalper candles...now comes along this Renko thing. It doesn't seem simple anymore...at least for me. Maybe some other too. On that note, is there any interest from some other traders about starting a thread based on the original setup conditions...a...
my .02
I can agree with most you say, it always goes this way it seems.
However with that said there is no reason a person cannot simply read the first post/ page and trade with that.
Just because there are 100 indicators posted doesn't mean you have to even look at them.
Personally I have seen no one post anything that make much in the way of improvement over Edges original post.
Slight differences here and there but trading is a very personal thing..
When someone actually own's a method ,( you know and understand it inside & out), they might come to the realization that it is not really a "magic" indicator that is making the pips...
  • #2,450
  • Jul 24, 2009 2:50pm Jul 24, 2009 2:50pm
I also agree but since Edge has helped me so much to improve my odds at trading I would be crazy not to learn and listen from him. If I have to buy RENKO bars so be it. As someone said on this thread if he wants me to wear a brown while trading hat I will.
  • #2,451
  • Jul 24, 2009 2:55pm Jul 24, 2009 2:55pm
Quoting Edgetrader
...Have asked folks to study up on Renko in the past. When combined with Trix it is formidable.
Here the combination...
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  • #2,452
  • Jul 24, 2009 3:04pm Jul 24, 2009 3:04pm
Quoting Tw0eleven
Ok, I'm just going to throw this out there....but does anyone else think this thread has gotten away from the 1st post? In the beginning it was Pick 1 primer and 1 detonator and trade that based on price action. Now we have a couple different Trix indicators on the chart, some type of moving average and scalper candles...now comes along this Renko thing. It doesn't seem simple anymore...at least for me. Maybe some other too. On that note, is there any interest from some other traders about starting a thread based on the original setup conditions...a...
Although the primer and detonator have been tweeked, I for one, am trading exactly as outlined on the opening page.
From the beginning Edge told us that this system would evolve as we became proficient traders and earned more "upgrades" to the original system.
I have faith that Edge knows where he is taking us and is in complete control of this thread. That being said, just continue to trade the "Level One C4" until you are ready move to the next phase, "Level Two C4", which seems to be just around the corner and implementing Renko. Sometimes it helps to put many people on ignore to filter out the confusion about indicators etc. Just follow Edge and stay focused to the task at hand.
Q
The Only Constant Is Change!
  • #2,453
  • Jul 24, 2009 3:04pm Jul 24, 2009 3:04pm
Quoting SwingMan
Here the combination...
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Do you think there is any difference, I can't find one.
/ ... clarifying decisions ... /
  • #2,454
  • Jul 24, 2009 3:06pm Jul 24, 2009 3:06pm
Quoting kristjantelve
Tnx Gutek04 that did the trick. If you do not know that what is wrong how do you know there is something wrong? I have been folowing that script for some days now and it all makes perfect sence. But if you spot something wierd let us all know.

Kristjan
Scroll the 1 minute timeframe as far as it goes.


John
  • #2,455
  • Jul 24, 2009 3:12pm Jul 24, 2009 3:12pm
Quoting Indrek
I am very sorry if you have such a feeling! Maybe it comes from the fact that English is not my native language and I even do not use it in my real life. So, most probably I am not finding the right words or expressions very often.
I do not have any problems with Edge and am quite sure that he has no problems with me. In fact, we just changed PMs and I clarified some unsolved issues with my trading.
I am a very grown up person, believe me. Nearing 50 ys, if it is interesting to know.
Point taken, Indrek. As a matter a fact English is not my first language either and maybe I’m the one who misread your intentions J

All I’m trying to say is that we should focus on trading the system. Keep in mind that it is designed mainly for those who trade for a living or intend to trade for a living in the near future. C4 seems to be perfect for this purpose. A lot of folks go through economical hardship nowadays and are looking for alternative source of income. That’s why I specifically don’t like this distractive approach, endless indi’s introduction and improvements made by those for whom trading remains a hobby. On the other hand I’m really into teacher – students approach introduced by Edge that can only benefit less experienced traders.

It is apparent that Edge is experienced and successful trader, who has traded the system with great level of success for some time, and as such his voice shall remain decisive in this thread. If he says renko chart is the next step, I believe him.
  • #2,456
  • Jul 24, 2009 3:19pm Jul 24, 2009 3:19pm
Quoting >Apocalypto<
TESTING!!!!

wait till u go live mate whole new different world.

In time u will learn what value my post had.... we all run into the 7 in a row or more losses at times.

reevaluate your MM.

anyway these lessons have to be learnt...
Apocalypto,
I am well aware live feels different. I am only testing C4 learning to scalp. I have 3 longer term methods which I trade live.
But they are just the opposite, very low win %, but winner much bigger than losers. With one of those methods I had 28 losses in a row - so don't patronise me. Please also note that same method is by far my most profitable, having gained me over 150% in 13 months.

Ian
  • #2,457
  • Jul 24, 2009 3:20pm Jul 24, 2009 3:20pm
If the renko bars make it easier or better or more profitable to trade, I don't see the problem in discussing them. Perhaps some will do much better with them. Who knows. Some things in life are just not worth getting all worked up over. I look at everything someone has to offer. You never know if what they have is the right recipe for you unless you taste it.
  • #2,458
  • Jul 24, 2009 3:22pm Jul 24, 2009 3:22pm
Quoting jackal
Point taken, Indrek. As a matter a fact English is not my first language either and maybe I’m the one who misread your intentions J

[size=3][font=Calibri]All I’m trying to say is that we should focus on trading the system. Keep in mind that it is designed mainly for those who trade for a living or intend to trade for a living in the near future. C4 seems to be perfect for this purpose. A lot of folks go through economical hardship nowadays and are looking for alternative...
Ok, problem solved.
I may only add that I would also like to be a full time trader but I am just very realistic about that. But never say never, of course, and if you do not try then you never find out.
  • #2,459
  • Jul 24, 2009 3:27pm Jul 24, 2009 3:27pm
Quoting johndata
Scroll the 1 minute timeframe as far as it goes.


John
And see what?

Kristjan
  • #2,460
  • Jul 24, 2009 3:32pm Jul 24, 2009 3:32pm
Well it seems the replies I've had to my last post have come from people who did not exactly read my entire last post very well!

1) I, in no way, put down edge's system in anyway. It's a Great method and enjoy tradin it!
2) I never said anywhere in my last post that things should not be discussed on here. In fact, feel free to discuss whatever you want! I choose to read what I want and skip what I don't want to read.
3) My post clearly stated that I was interested to hear if anyone wanted a NEW thread started to talk about and post charts that followed the rules of the original method! Once again, I did not say to change this thread at all...there is nothing wrong with this thread!


Now please people, read things thoroughly before replying. Have a good weekend!
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