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  • #3,461
  • Jul 20, 2009 4:53pm Jul 20, 2009 4:53pm
i leave for a couple beers
come back and what happens..
the whole enchilada is in the tank… http://clicksmilies.com/s1106/fragen...smiley-009.gif
  • #3,462
  • Jul 20, 2009 5:16pm Jul 20, 2009 5:16pm
NZDJPY
Still working on understanding Mr fibo. I had placed Mr fibo upside down.. Showing a 61% failure from previous highs.
This caused me to short.

I turned Mr fibo around and it showed pa favored long.
So I closed the short for a 15 pip loss and went long…

Still working with Mr fibo..

For new traders like myself. I would compare my trades similar to a Submarine deep under water trying to navigate through a heavy saturated underwater mine field.

One wrong move………not good…

Ps: all my trades up to this point is not to make money as much as it is for me gaining experience getting into and out of trades.
Successfully of course.
To me monopoly is not real money.

This entry and exit experience for me, can not be gained by me reading a book.

Knowledge is cool

But….BUT
Actual experience will kick the living daylights out of it any day of the week.
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  • #3,463
  • Jul 20, 2009 5:17pm Jul 20, 2009 5:17pm
Hi Chris, like I told you in PM, your time is valuable and you should not be afraid to charge for it. Like any other free market things will fall out as it should, if your service is good and helps people it will thrive. If it is not so good it will fail. Just offer the service and don't worry about the dengzhi of the world. The world is loaded with freeloaders that want everything for nothing, you could trade his account for free get him 5% a month and he would want to know why you didn't get him 6%. Funny thing is if you go to dengzhi member profile, he put in "Time IS MONEY". I guess that is just his time. Go take a look, and while your there check out the great threads he started. On second thought don't bother with his threads, they offer nothing they are just looking for FREE Help.

Good Luck Chris

Now everyone out there who disagrees with me, send me what ever you want. I have been in business for many years, 97% (thats a real number) of my customers have a great relationship with me, the others have called me every name in the book, so go ahead try to call me something new.

scotta
  • #3,464
  • Jul 20, 2009 5:19pm Jul 20, 2009 5:19pm
EURJPY
This is a trade I put on Sunday night before going to bed.
I moved my stops and was taken out with +50 pips. (say that’s half a hundred)
I will be looking for another long entry.
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  • #3,465
  • Jul 20, 2009 5:24pm Jul 20, 2009 5:24pm
Hi all,

please can one of you PM me the link to CW's blog?

Thank's a lot!

Chris
  • #3,466
  • Jul 20, 2009 5:29pm Jul 20, 2009 5:29pm
i hope the best for my friend cw71.

lets get a few things clear though.

1. i never asked for my blantant adverising signature. that was given to me with no request on my part.

2. my preferred partner status allows me some priveleges. i never asked for it either.

3. my site was forex factorys idea. merlin suggested it via email. i said no for 3 months before agreeing. it became what it is today not from some preconcieved business plan. it is what it is because of succesful people like clock.

i will personally do what i can to get clock back but let me state something right here and right now and i shall return to my thread.

a lot of you talk like you trade.

without much thought.

jim
  • #3,467
  • Jul 20, 2009 5:30pm Jul 20, 2009 5:30pm
Quoting scotta

Good Luck Chris

Now everyone out there who disagrees with me, send me what ever you want. I have been in business for many years, 97% (thats a real number) of my customers have a great relationship with me, the others have called me every name in the book, so go ahead try to call me something new.

scotta
uhhh …….well if you insist…
here goes….

Something New…

there.. I said it and it still don’t make since…:nerd:

  • #3,468
  • Jul 20, 2009 5:36pm Jul 20, 2009 5:36pm
Two other trades I put on Sunday night.
EURUSD
Solid pa above 61%. I went long

USDCHF
Solid pa below 61%. I went short
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  • #3,469
  • Jul 20, 2009 5:36pm Jul 20, 2009 5:36pm
It does seem that anything of value on Forex Factory is promptly sent to the recycle bin.

Who can blame Chris for wanting to charge a reasonable amount for his time?

I respect Jim a lot (I've been a member twice), but in this case I do think the rules have been applied unfairly with bias given to J16.
If it's too good to be true, it probably is.
  • #3,470
  • Jul 20, 2009 5:47pm Jul 20, 2009 5:47pm
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It does seem that anything of value on Forex Factory is promptly sent to the recycle bin.

That is simply not true, but I feel your angst.

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Who can blame Chris for wanting to charge a reasonable amount for his time?

My company bills me out on occasion. Upwards of $500/hr. Hi-Tek Pimpin'. So I completely agree with you. I do not begrudge him one bit.

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I respect Jim a lot (I've been a member twice), but in this case I do think the rules have been applied unfairly with bias given to J16.

Whoops - we diverge. Read Jim's note above.

Chris made an error - advertising a service - and that is against the rules. It would have been very good on his part to discuss how to do it with Twee instead of making the mistake of floating it on his own.
I'm pretty much done with all this ...
  • #3,471
  • Jul 20, 2009 6:09pm Jul 20, 2009 6:09pm
Just so you know ..CW….

About 3 months ago I opened a $3,000 dollar demo account.
I researched and red a lot of information regarding Forex trading..

Not enough I’m sure.

I promptly took that 3000 down to a little under 900. Believing this was not sufficient enough I opened another 3000 dollar demo account.

At the same time I bumped into your thread. It made perfect since to me.
I read all your method until I believed I understood it’s function and how to implement it.

At first I moved 3000 down to about 2900. With the understanding of your method I moved 2900 back to over 3800.

I then went back to my original account balance of 900. Using the information I learned from you, moved the 900 up to just over 2000.

My confidence has improved ten fold.

You were the primary positive influence, that had a major impact on a stranger..

For that I thank you Sir..
I wish you the very best of success…
  • #3,472
  • Jul 20, 2009 6:46pm Jul 20, 2009 6:46pm
Quoting james16
i hope the best for my friend cw71.

lets get a few things clear though.

1. i never asked for my blantant adverising signature. that was given to me with no request on my part.

2. my preferred partner status allows me some priveleges. i never asked for it either.

3. my site was forex factorys idea. merlin suggested it via email. i said no for 3 months before agreeing. it became what it is today not from some preconcieved business plan. it is what it is because of succesful people like clock.

i will personally do what i can to get clock...
I think your point would have been better taken without the insult at the end.
  • #3,473
  • Jul 20, 2009 6:54pm Jul 20, 2009 6:54pm
Just to throw 2 cents in,for what it is worth.I have learned a great deal from James and Chris.Maybe Chris should have went about it differently on promoting the site.But I feel he should be able to charge for his knowledge of the market.He has gave soooo much for free so far.His detication to learning the market should be awarded,even if that means mentoring others. Just wish there was a way to seperate the "fakes" from the "real deals".Chris is the real deal.
  • #3,474
  • Jul 20, 2009 6:56pm Jul 20, 2009 6:56pm
I dont really understand what a FF partner actually means, does FF get a rebate or fee from J16?

I dont see the problem with Chris having his own private site, if your saying he lacks originality, then you could throw the same stone at J16 for utilising Pring ideas... nothing is ever really original, it all just comes down to teaching ability and committment to members/customers.

One way to resolve would be to keep this thread open but no-one link to a private site or mention it... but yeh I dunno how they will manage this one, but theres an abvious double standard with say Jacko and J16 and stuff like Phillip Nel and CW... ideally FF should make a value judgement on a member and their contribution.

It just seems that some members/threads get the Goldman Sachs/IAG bailout while others are getting the Lehmann Brothers treatment.
Grabbing the bull by the horns!
  • #3,475
  • Jul 20, 2009 7:01pm Jul 20, 2009 7:01pm
Quoting whitegoodman
I dont really understand what a FF partner actually means, does FF get a rebate or fee from J16?

I dont see the problem with Chris having his own private site, if your saying he lacks originality, then you could throw the same stone at J16 for utilising Pring ideas... nothing is ever really original, it all just comes down to teaching ability and committment to members/customers.

One way to resolve would be to keep this thread open but no-one link to a private site or mention it... but yeh I dunno how they will manage this one, but theres an...
I removed my post because im listened to Clocks blog and looks like he is offering more than just PA/SR etc. I think though I mentioned on the scope of FF it wasn't original (Pring is outside the scope of FF). I want to say I really value CWs stuff and would consider joining his group. just don't want FF to have 100 pay sites being advertised. What if all the other J16 intructors left and started their own site, it would fragment the PF and make it less useful.
I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.
  • #3,476
  • Jul 20, 2009 7:22pm Jul 20, 2009 7:22pm
Quoting tac
I removed my post because im listened to Clocks blog and looks like he is offering more than just PA/SR etc. I think though I mentioned on the scope of FF it wasn't original (Pring is outside the scope of FF). I want to say I really value CWs stuff and would consider joining his group. just don't want FF to have 100 pay sites being advertised. What if all the other J16 intructors left and started their own site, it would fragment the PF and make it less useful.
well ultimately they all could if they had membership willing to pay, what im trying to say is either have it one way or the other, not preferential treatment to some and banning of others... have it open slather for people to advertise their private groups, not blatant advertisment, but have it in discussion or let no-one do it, that way all this shades of grey bias discussion is put to bed.

Or only allow people or persons with a certain rating to offer/have private areas... so say you require 20V (i know 10 is max) so you have some significant standing within the FF community before it being offered/started.
Grabbing the bull by the horns!
  • #3,477
  • Jul 20, 2009 7:34pm Jul 20, 2009 7:34pm
Quoting whitegoodman
well ultimately they all could if they had membership willing to pay, what im trying to say is either have it one way or the other, not preferential treatment to some and banning of others... have it open slather for people to advertise their private groups, not blatant advertisment, but have it in discussion or let no-one do it, that way all this shades of grey bias discussion is put to bed.

Or only allow people or persons with a certain rating to offer/have private areas... so say you require 20V (i know 10 is max) so you have some significant...
Dont forget that J16 thread was part of the reason FF is successful, I think its a special case and was almost FF idea to create the PF. I don't think this thread is in that league.
I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.
  • #3,478
  • Jul 20, 2009 7:35pm Jul 20, 2009 7:35pm
Hi Tac

Let me start by saying this should not be reduced to a J16 or Clockwork issue , I am a long time member of J16, I love the PF, Mike etc etc. I don't know why anyone serious about this business would not be in it. Thanks Jim I owe you a lot.

I agree with you CW has a lot in common with J16. Where we differ is that you say the" Problem is". I don't see this as a problem, the more ways you see and hear the same truths, the better chance it will get thru.

"What stops any trader opening a thread about PA and SR ............. then creating a pay site." As far as I'm concerned Nothing should stop him. The market for this info will take care of itself. If good it lasts (J16) if not it dies rather quickly. There are already to many DO GOODERS out there trying to make decisions for me. How many great traders are out there that would love to help but don't?

" I don't think there's enough originality" Let the customer decide. Jim says straight out, he got the PIN bar from Pring. I'm very happy he went ahead with J16 PF, instead of thinking his info is just like Prings.

"Don't get me wrong I love CW stuff just like I love Mikes and Racs etc. but they just examples of J16". Are they? Or are they examples of Prings methods? Everyone mentioned above uses the same principles with there own twist. And each one of them gets it thru to someone that the other one can't. And that is a great thing, not a problem.

Good trading to all.
scotta
  • #3,479
  • Jul 20, 2009 8:00pm Jul 20, 2009 8:00pm
Quoting scotta
Hi Tac

Let me start by saying this should not be reduced to a J16 or Clockwork issue , I am a long time member of J16, I love the PF, Mike etc etc. I don't know why anyone serious about this business would not be in it. Thanks Jim I owe you a lot.

I agree with you CW has a lot in common with J16. Where we differ is that you say...
You have split my statement up into parts and remove the context. I said the problem is FF don't allow advertising except from partners and there is already a PA/SR trading style partner. I never said it was a problem that CW started this thread. In the scope of FF J16s thread was the first for PA/SR the biggest and most successful.

Well see what happens, I wont really have a problem either way but I cant see how they can handle this one. Tricky.
I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.
  • #3,480
  • Jul 20, 2009 8:04pm Jul 20, 2009 8:04pm
GEF trade is still there to be taken, low volume on the move up last night(today for some), producing an inside bar... still looking for a break down...
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