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  • #101
  • Jul 16, 2009 8:01am Jul 16, 2009 8:01am
Quoting fxRichard
...so i am contemplating moving but unsure of where to. The ideal place needs to offer the following:

1 - Great weather and scenery (preferably tropical or mountains)
2 - Inexpensive living - best bang for the buck etc.
3 - Good schools (for our kids)
4 - Safe for Americans / foreigners etc.
5 - English is prevalent thus making it easy to get around (if outside of the US)
6 - Low crime
7 - Hight speed internet available (this is a MUST)
8 - ....anything else you can think of.

Right now I am looking into Phuket Thailand but looking for input...
Try Durban, South Africa: sun, surf, relatively lower cost, good schools, English lanuage, fast enough internet and best of all - NY/London overlap from 2pm to 6pm!
  • #102
  • Jul 16, 2009 8:20am Jul 16, 2009 8:20am
Isn't the grass greener every where but ones' place?

Even though my time zone (GMT -7) in the Rockies sucks for day trading, I love the seasons, the slopes, the mountains, the spring/summer melt, 300+ days of sun shine unlike the great lake states, occasional tornados, wide open spaces.
  • #103
  • Jul 16, 2009 9:06am Jul 16, 2009 9:06am
Quoting denverdude
Isn't the grass greener every where but ones' place?

Even though my time zone (GMT -7) in the Rockies sucks for day trading, I love the seasons, the slopes, the mountains, the spring/summer melt, 300+ days of sun shine unlike the great lake states, occasional tornados, wide open spaces.
So true, dude. I'm down here in Co Spgs and I love it too for all the same reasons (especially the tornadoes). Unfortunately, it's also true the time zone sucks for fx trading, especially if you're holding down a day job.

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  • #104
  • Jul 16, 2009 10:28am Jul 16, 2009 10:28am
Quoting Big Wave Rider
Most of the Germans are moving to Switzerland where they leave their 7 euro an hour job and get 25chf per hour doing the same job....
Sure they earn more in Switzerland but compare that to the cost of living.
Ever bought a cup of coffee in switzerland? Sweet Jesus.
I'm not that mountain type of guy I always feel a bit imprissoned after 2 weeks in Northern Italy. Another big Con in my opinion is the language ( I mean swiss german) just drives you nuts after 1-2 hours. Wouldn't be really surprised if they use Swiss Radio Stations as an instrument of torture in Guantanamo Bay.
  • #105
  • Jul 16, 2009 11:07am Jul 16, 2009 11:07am
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  • #106
  • Jul 16, 2009 11:33am Jul 16, 2009 11:33am
I'm placing my vote for New Zealand!

Wellington, NZ to be exact. I've never experienced such cleanliness and beauty in my life. The grass is, in fact greener in NZ. I ate some of the best meals in my life, mind you I hate fish but after eating so much deliciously-cook fish and seafood, I've been hooked since day one.

Stayed in this beautiful 2-story victorian styled home on the peak of a hill over-looking the ocean. With a view like that, my trading picked up during my stay in NZ. With so much outdoor activities, I was hardly ever home to trade, let alone sleep. Queentown, NZ is my all-time favorite city in the world. Had picnics on lush green grass next to some of the most friendly heard of sheeps with a beautiful view of the mountains behind us. Swimmed in the deepest ocean waters and sailed for days. Took an adventure hike on the South Island and experienced raw nature. As beautiful as everything seemed was also the most dangerous.

The exchange rate for the NZ dollar against the USD is very affordable and in favor of the USD. But dont get me wrong, NZ is very expensive.

After that trip, NZ will be my retirement location ... hopefully soon.
  • #107
  • Jul 16, 2009 11:35am Jul 16, 2009 11:35am
Quoting Tjpld
Another big Con in my opinion is the language ( I mean swiss german) just drives you nuts after 1-2 hours. Wouldn't be really surprised if they use Swiss Radio Stations as an instrument of torture in Guantanamo Bay.


i'm with you, mate!
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  • #108
  • Jul 16, 2009 11:36am Jul 16, 2009 11:36am
Quoting benssol
Can"t stop laughing ...
  • #109
  • Jul 16, 2009 11:44am Jul 16, 2009 11:44am
@Jhig

But the real question is : "How many Mbps?"

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3. Cable
Cable Internet uses fibre-optic cable to carry data. Cable is as fast as the fastest broadband - 2 Mbps. Source: http://www.emigratenz.org/getting-an...onnection.html

You got to be kidding me.
  • #110
  • Jul 16, 2009 12:22pm Jul 16, 2009 12:22pm
Quoting Tjpld
@Jhig

But the real question is : "How many Mbps?"

Oh gosh, TJ

Don't even get me started on Vodafone NZ.
Vodafone NZ caps you at 5 Gigs of bandwidth per month. I couldn't stop laughing as I blow through almost 5 Gigs a day on my Comcast line for the price of $125/per month. Vodafone charges 100 NZD for 5 Gigs. And talk about slow. Mind you, we were staying at relatives home so and I didn't want to be the one that capped their high speed connection for the month with my heavy web browsing and always-on trading platform. So, I ended up using my Sprint unlimited mobile internet plan and found a cafe that had free high speed.

Tj, that could have been the reason why I didnt trade that often while in NZ. The other reason was I was just having a good time and forgot to trade.
  • #111
  • Jul 16, 2009 12:37pm Jul 16, 2009 12:37pm
Quoting Big Wave Rider
As far as safety is concerned you cant beat Switzerland. The whole country has under 15 murders per year. 90% of them committed by foreigners. Thats two weeks in any major U.S city, plus the cops are friendly here, not all agro aggressive like in the U.S where you feel like your in a police state. Police brutality is rampend in the U.S, You should never have to fear the police but thats how it is today. Plus there are certain freedoms that you have here that would land you in jail in the U.S. Like enjoying a bottle of wine with your picnic in a...
Hi BWR,

While I can't really vehemently discount anything you have said about the USA, I suspect that your experience here has maybe been limited to some of the cities. It's a very big country, though, and there are large parts of it where peple live in peace without fear of being brutalized by their local police, where murder is a rare occurrence. I have mostly lived in rural areas my whole life and still do and I don't really worry about being attacked or ripped off. I have spent time in other countries and I have thought about maybe moving out of the USA, but I don't think I will. Mostly, because I don't want to live like I'm on permanent vacation, but would rather be part of a community. And I never went anywhere abroad where I thought I could be anything but a foreigner & treated as such.
"If The Fool persists in his Folly he will become wise." - William Blake
  • #112
  • Jul 16, 2009 2:31pm Jul 16, 2009 2:31pm
Quoting Jhig
I'm placing my vote for New Zealand!

Wellington, NZ to be exact. I've never experienced such cleanliness and beauty in my life. The grass is, in fact greener in NZ. I ate some of the best meals in my life, mind you I hate fish but after eating so much deliciously-cook fish and seafood, I've been hooked since day one.

Stayed in this beautiful 2-story victorian styled home on the peak of a hill over-looking the ocean. With a view like that, my trading picked up during my stay in NZ. With so much outdoor activities, I was hardly ever home to trade,...
I,d love to travel with my wife at the end of every year(That's why Most of my income spend onthat) and i must say NZ was our best tour.
Its a great place with true natural beauty though i have spend just 27-days over there three year's back. But i still remember my memorable time over there. Nice peoples , Great scenery , not much expencive also.
Google search image's. It's amazing.
  • #113
  • Jul 16, 2009 4:26pm Jul 16, 2009 4:26pm
talk to trader tax or green trader and make sure you set up proper legal loopholes to benefit you tax wise , "trader living overseas tax loophole", insurance health, retirement fund etc. All this can be arrange with an experience tax person consultant. Once you get that stuff out the way, you can now focus on living elsewhere. "YOU CAN DO IT"

WIsh you good luck also look at those expatriate websites with opinions on countries custom, living situations .. whether is is Curacao or main island of FIJI to the hills in Columbia to Dominica island to Hawaii
  • #114
  • Jul 16, 2009 4:45pm Jul 16, 2009 4:45pm
Quoting mrgreen
Till your post I had not seriously considered Europe. I'm a tropical minded person and have property on the pacific coast of costa rica - near panama - but internet is still an issue (hell Cell Phone is stil a prb where I want to build). I'll have to give Europe some more thought.

depending on your budget, consider sattelite dish . my parents live in one of most proverty sticken countries in the carribea, and the key is to live up the hills, and solely depend on government resources.electric water pump, power generator , invertoe solar panal, sattelite dish internet unless you live in a high end rental home. apartment living hmmm maybe.............
  • #115
  • Jul 16, 2009 7:25pm Jul 16, 2009 7:25pm
Quoting The Fool
Hi BWR,

... I don't want to live like I'm on permanent vacation, but would rather be part of a community. And I never went anywhere abroad where I thought I could be anything but a foreigner & treated as such.
This is the key and it is somethings that many don't consider. Moving to the U.S. is different than doing the equivalent into other countries. Everybody is a foreigner in the U.S.

In most countries in the EU you'll have a good chance of being intergrated (esp. with the more open younder generation), but it depends on the country.

Japan? Forget it. All Westerners I have spoken to that have made an attempt to get integrated said that it is impossible. They will smile at you and be very polite, but as for including you, no way in hell (curious as they make all attempts to act, look, and eat like white folks).
  • #116
  • Jul 16, 2009 7:33pm Jul 16, 2009 7:33pm
Quoting Tjpld
Wow and they don't have that in the US....

NeuKöln = Europe

now that's a great generalisation.

Population Europe: 500 Million
Population Berlin-Neukölln: 150k

Yeah you can totaly project Neuköllen on all of Europe...
Of course you have and had this in the US. Never stated otherwise.
What I said is that over the last 10-20 years German cities have been getting progressively more dangerous (in part due to very liberal laws - drug offenses can get you community service in Germany!). Those in the US have for the most part gotten less dangerous. NYC in the 70s / early 80s was hell.

If you live in a nice area, good for you. But still don't lose contact with the reality outside.

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How many people did you talk to? Or even more important where are they from?
It's probably better being unemployed in Germany that having some low-wage job somewhere outside Europe.

You don't have to talk to 1000 people to get an idea. 5 different poeple from different walks of life, in a row saying exactly the same thing, points toward a greater consensus.

Ever wonder why the show "Goodbye Deutschland" is so popular?
  • #117
  • Jul 16, 2009 7:35pm Jul 16, 2009 7:35pm
Quoting Big Wave Rider
Most of the Germans are moving to Switzerland where they leave their 7 euro an hour job and get 25chf per hour doing the same job. Who ever said Europe has a lower standard of living has not been to CH. Minimum wage here is 18 CHF an hour and since we are all forex traders I'm sure you know how much that is in your currency. Also CH has one of the highest standards of living in the World. Denmark is number one, CH number 2. The top 3 cities are Vienna, Zürich, Geneva. Bern is in the top 10 as well. As far as safety is concerned you cant beat Switzerland....

This is true for the most part, and most Police in the EU (not France/UK) pride themselves on their anti-fascist stance. This is a good thing.

However only 15 murders per year... I doubt that. Maybe in Lichtenstein...
  • #118
  • Jul 17, 2009 2:55am Jul 17, 2009 2:55am
Quoting Code4Capital
Please you're full of it. People in Holland hate immigrants, like seriously a liberal country like Holland basically running blacks out, I don't wanna see what they do to an American.
Man you are full of it, what you saying is totally bull... People in Holland hate immigrants??? not really...Holland is a multi-culture country...
  • #119
  • Edited 5:52am Jul 17, 2009 3:42am | Edited 5:52am
Quoting fxterrapin
Of course you have and had this in the US. Never stated otherwise.
What I said is that over the last 10-20 years German cities have been getting progressively more dangerous (in part due to very liberal laws - drug offenses can get you community service in Germany!). Those in the US have for the most part gotten less dangerous. NYC in the 70s / early 80s was hell.

If you live in a nice area, good for you. But still don't lose contact with the reality outside.
Sure there are places where live isn't as wonderful. But saying NeuKölln speaks for all of Germany or even Europe is like saying Detroit = USA. In fact most of southern and western Germany is quite wealthy. Karlsruhe (Pop. 290k) which is just 30km from me is the second richest City in Europe with a GDP/Person auf ~100.000 USD.


Lol asking 5 people and projecting that on the whole society is just a huge joke sorry. I can't take you serious on that one.
I know way more than 5 immigrants and they are all wonderful people so where is the problem with a country "teeming with immigrants".
Shouldn't that point to a greater consensue if we follow your logic?

"Goodbye Germany" is about as popular as a broken leg. Don't even know where that airs RTL II or Kabel 1 both Broadcasting Stations for unemployed lazy fucks. If you say you'll eat 1 pound of dog shit on live TV they'll hire you. I guess that says everything about their quality.
  • #120
  • Jul 17, 2009 4:14am Jul 17, 2009 4:14am
Quoting Tjpld
Sure they earn more in Switzerland but compare that to the cost of living.
Ever bought a cup of coffee in switzerland? Sweet Jesus.
I'm not that mountain type of guy I always feel a bit imprissoned after 2 weeks in Northern Italy. Another big Con in my opinion is the language ( I mean swiss german) just drives you nuts after 1-2 hours. Wouldn't be really surprised if they use Swiss Radio Stations as an instrument of torture in Guantanamo Bay.

After the cost of living you still have more money left over to save and invest and thats how you determine the standard of living. It may seem expensive at first but once your used to it then everywhere else seems sooo much cheaper. You learn how to be frugal here, how to save your pennies. But at the same time not think twice about spending 1,500chf on a coffee machine. There are no wall marts here (thank god). And yes the Swiss German is annoying but everybody would rather speak english than hoch Deutsch. But the biggest advantage is the TAX RATE, which is negotiable.



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