TG Vorticity - By Lohad M1 Trading

Hey Traders,

As mentioned in other spots, I have been working on my own way of scalping with Tudor Girls Vorticity indicator. For respect of Paulus' thread I have decided to start a new thread with this method. Thanks to Paulus and TG for their great work on their system.

I have been using this system steadily for the last 2 weeks and feel confident enough that I worked out the wrinkles enough to submit for you all to take a look at.

If you have followed my other thread, you know that I am primarily a M1 scalper. I will occasionally trade the M5 chart. Also, if you have followed my thread, you will notice that I welcome different ideas, twists or new indicators to the systems I present. If you have something that you think adds value, please post it. This is not set in stone.

With that said, I will always have the system that I am trading updated on the 1st post. The one condition I do ask, no matter what twists or new ideas you have, I want to see the Vorticity indicator implemented with it. This is a thread dedicated to this indicator.

Ok, I am posting some screen shots, templates, and indicators. the rules of entry that I use will be noted on the pictures.

Indicators Used:
HMA Hull (36,1,0)
HMA Hull (50,1,0)
MA in Color (50,1)
COG (Center of Gravity)
Stochastic (14,3,3)

AND THE STAR OF THE SHOW:
Tudur Girl Hydrodynamic Vorticity 2.0A

SL is mental - if candle closes on the other side of the HMA's, I will more then likely close. Or I will use S/R as my stop depending on market conditions.

I almost always use this during the London Session, into New York session. 3:00 AM to 10:00AM (most of the time, maybe longer).

So take a look and let me know what you think.

Lohad

Examples of Entries:

Picture with COG:

Attached is the tool box.

Hello Lohad. Thanks for sharing. From all I've read about Tudor Girl's indicator it repaints and hence is virtually useless for trading. Were you aware of this?

Tudur Girl Hydrodynamic Vorticity 2.0A repaint big time , do not scroll back the chart and give examples because it's not accurate.

Lohad,
Thanks for the new method. It looks good. One question though. What are your rules using the stoch? It seems to be over sold on a lot of good trades.
As for the tudor girl indie. I know it repaints but that does not matter as you are only interested in what it is doing NOW.
Keep up the good work Lohad. I'll let you know how it goes.

Yes I am fully aware of the repainting issue. No I would not suggest back testing this with just a visual look. I would not suggest doing this period no matter what indicator you are using or even just using PA alone. It is easy to become a "weekend millionaire" visually testing dead charts.

I would suggest using a trade simulator as a minimum, or demo. Personally I use a live account with VERY small money to test. Nothing replaces the effect of trading live... at least for me.

As far as the TG indi I am using, yes it repaints. I have not notice it going more then 1-2 bars back. I use the Stoch as a confirmation of the TG indi. The main tool with this template is the 2 HMA Hull lines along with the 50 MA in Color, and playing the crosses of these items with the confirmation of the combo I use with the Stoch and Vorticity indi. As far as the Stoch being over sold. When I first started using the Stoch on a M1 chart, I used to sit by and watch good trades go bye all because the Stoch seemed over sold/bought. But how many times did the Stoch stay in that area and 20 pips go by as you were sitting on your hands? Happened to me way too often.

I use the Stoch/Vort inidi mainly only for entry. Then I use PA along with the COG/HMA's to show me the exit. Remember I am a scalper, I am not looking to hit 50-100 pip trades (although that would be nice.)

This was built on hopping on a trend, and getting a quick piece of the action.

Try looking at it once (in London or NY session) to see how this sytem flows when you get the proper cross of the HMA's. Typically the Vorticity indi has been way past the repainting issue of the 1st 1-2 bars and a proper signal is established.

Thanks,

Lohad

Take a look at the trade I took earlier today. I can tell you the Vorticity was not red when I decided to take the trade.

I know what you mean on the repainting, but as you can see I am in when the current trend has been established and not just starting out while the first bar is flickering.

thanks,

Lohad

I see you don't have the COG on your chart!
Have you found it not very useful?

Hey Fence,

The COG only is visible for the last 125 bars. I use the COG for highlighting to me where good reversal points may be. And also to show short term trend

Lohad

Little scalps today. Here is a pic of a trade I did. Just looking for 3-5 pips. Playing around. Look at her go after I got out. It's ok, mission accomplished for me.

Lohad

I am embarrassed that I am setting a TP of 3 but hey it keeps a Friday like this fun. Using EXTREME tight SL, just playing around.

Lohad

Could you please tell me where I can download the Candle Time indicator? Thanks.

Max

Hey Lohad, thanks for sharing your new system.
I am trying a "slim" version system similar to yours in addition with the StochBars indi at the moment. It looked good on Friday Session.
Yes the TGHV is repainting up to 3 bars, but like you said b4, when you take the Stoch(Bars) as confirmation it is generating some good signals. Here is a screenshot of the friday trading session with some live signals i took. My target is mainly +10P/trade and the most of the signals seemed good for that purpose. Exit is based on the StochBars and the TGHV too. Hard SL is -15P but that was hit zero times on friday. Usually i am out under -10P.
The screenshot is realtime, the TGHV is painted as seen live. I did not change the TF or shutdown MT4. If u do this TGHV will look different than in realtime. The two Lines are signals i took for +10p. Between them there was another valid signal (when the TGHV turns blue).

Exactly Tex,

I am not concerned about the repainting on the Vorticity because when I get my signal (when the stoch crosses) it is usually well past the repainting issues on the first couple of bars. However I realize that this makes it hard to back test visually. But I always prefer forward testing only.

I have been using a similar exit strat as well, I will usually wait for PA to cross back over the HMA Hull. Or I will set a TP based on what I feel the market is willing to give.

Please keep up updated on how you are doing. I will follow your results.

Thanks,

Lohad

For those who have been asking. Attached is the Mq4 file for the HMA Hull.

Lohad

Here ya go!

Lohad

I added a T3RSI onto the TGV. The crosses have been pretty true. Attached is the indi and the template. Take a look if you would like.

Lohad

Here is a look at a bad trade. -15. Anyhow a good way to show how I use my stop loss. Should have never been this much of a loss, but nice re-quote twice on exit.

Lohad