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  • #1,281
  • Jun 14, 2009 7:49am Jun 14, 2009 7:49am
i have attach this indicator vforce on my chart but i cant see any red or green candles.is it because market is close?

does it just works live?

cant i see past performanance to save time?
  • #1,282
  • Jun 14, 2009 8:35am Jun 14, 2009 8:35am
Quoting Yahoomt4
Congrats Peter! You used the EA?

Regards
No, i trade manualy every day ...


Alihuzaifa , try to redownload indicators and put in your meta dir then go to templates click for example on White version and then switch to black version...

And i forgot , i use daily high and daily low always and then i know where is the price and candeclock to know how much time left for close candle...

Good piping,

Here it is
Attached File(s)
File Type: mq4 Daily_High_Low .mq4   3 KB | 790 downloads
File Type: mq4 b-clock_modified.mq4   2 KB | 698 downloads
"Buy on fear, sell on greed !!!
  • #1,283
  • Jun 14, 2009 9:41am Jun 14, 2009 9:41am
Quoting Petar_Serbia
No, i trade manualy every day ...


Alihuzaifa , try to redownload indicators and put in your meta dir then go to templates click for example on White version and then switch to black version...

And i forgot , i use daily high and daily low always and then i know where is the price and candeclock to know how much time left for close candle...

Good piping,

Here it is

i have kept the template in proper folder but it does not show any red or green candle it just shows blue candles
  • #1,284
  • Jun 14, 2009 11:59am Jun 14, 2009 11:59am
Hi Richboy
thanks for sharing the EA. Can you please point me to the page where the latest version is.

thanks
tasse

Quoting richboy1972
HI all.
I remove the code that cause the error "Trade not allowed...".
Then I correct a small bug: after TP1, the quote of order to close with TP2 and TP3 isn't correct: was calculated on the lots left and not on the initial lots. Now is OK.

Thanks all for your feedbacks.
  • #1,285
  • Jun 14, 2009 8:00pm Jun 14, 2009 8:00pm
No more fun? It was good while it lasted. OK FRAUDY.
  • #1,286
  • Edited 9:13pm Jun 15, 2009 12:21am | Edited 9:13pm
Quoting JohnnyBSmart
All Readers,

I knew I saw "fxxx" post before and I must admit I must re-think things about trying to make every person a smart trader as the following post on "Amazing Strategy Joke" ...


It is a joke. This isn't a real system ...
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Originally Posted #276 by ak4x http://www.forexfactory.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gifAttention! Traders of Earth! Got this by PM... I'm just the messenger, don't shoot me.
Traders of Earth!!
It has come to the attention of the High Council of Planet XG41KG that the AMAZING STRATEGY!!! has been discovered and is in use on Planet Earth.
=================================== ==================

Now may we present fxxx and his now historic comments:

Original post #100 by fxxx
can you post indicators and templete you used on the chart? what the best settings 4 different timeframes and currencies?
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Original post #173 by fxxx
does your system works on other TFs than original rules (post1) - H1 TF
(what is your settings, TP/Sl, reentry, multiple lots...
can you post your indicator you showd on your chart (with arrows)?
does it repaint?
=================================== ==================
Original post #197 by fxxx
can anybody make alert and ea 4 this system?
does anyone knows smart programmer who can program indicator and alert 4 this great system?
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Original post #202 by fxxx
many people posting only statements and only pictures with indicators which wasn't publicly released
though it's against forum rules - but i can understand - if one post .ex4 file - it will be decompiled and sold on e-bay

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Original post #277 by fxxx
i read the thread very carefully and i don't believe such statement is true - can you prove it? do you have newspaper or other materials on which you can base such allegations - or can you provide other evidence of damage done or caused by THE AMAZING STRATEGY!!!
if not (all studies shows very opposite result) - it would sound only like a joke and not a real threat
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Original post #363 by fxxx
so what? it's like Bible - everybody can read, nobody - understand, read no mater how many times : ((((((
p.s. some .pdf or .documentation necessary :
=================================== ==================
LOL : ))))))))))))))))
see, JohnyBSmart, in this thread i made jokes about you and alike; not amazing, you can't get it : )))))
  • #1,287
  • Jun 15, 2009 12:52am Jun 15, 2009 12:52am
Hi forexjedi,

I just discover your two last systems that i am starting to analyzing.
Between the 15 min. "v Force" The Revolution and the "The Force 5min system" :
which one would you consider the most reliable or the higher win/loss signals.

Regards
Pierre
"Everything subject to destruction before even be created"
  • #1,288
  • Jun 17, 2009 6:39am Jun 17, 2009 6:39am
Hi,

I've been using vForce as a supplimentary indicator on 5 and 15 min charts to help me with my entries. Very good work in my opinion. I personally prefer to retain some discretion, so I'm not using any EA.

From observing the behavior of the indicator, I'd like to suggest two alternative usages (and this in no way implies criticism of or comment on the standard usage):

 

  1. Instead of using the rigid take profits prescribed by the system, if the market has momentum I sometimes use the next opposite signal to take profit (exit a long position on a red candle, a short position on a blue candle); this can also occasionally serve as a soft stop loss.
  2. Especially on short time frames I find that the signal often comes a bit late for my liking, when short-term support/resistance is close or has been broken. If I see a strongly trending market, I like to look at vForce signals to indicate potential reversals after a retracement; i.e. if in a strong bear market I get a bullish blue candle, I might sell short below that candle instead of taking it as a buy signal. I would do that even if no bearish red candle appears.
    Because I like to trade short time frames in the direction of longer time frame trends (usually 4 hr trend direction and 15 min entry/exit) I used to ignore signals in the "wrong" direction. Using them as a heads-up for impending reversals gives me more bang for the buck.

Just my two pips worth...

Good trading everybody!

jesper

  • #1,289
  • Jun 23, 2009 8:18am Jun 23, 2009 8:18am
Hello forexjedi and robdee and all others.
At first, thank you for your excellent system and thread. I just wonder why should the use of vForce be limited only to M15 EURUSD? Visually, it seems to me that this system could work anywhere...
If the vForce indicator uses 8 other indicators then, in fact, those 8 have to work on every pair. It is logical because we all use the same indicators for our everyday trading regardless on what pair we trade.
I understand that maybe there are some period settings for some indicators that suit best for M15 but it should not be very difficult to adjust those for higher timeframes too? H1 and especially Daily would be wonderful.
Can anybody do this? Robdee, what do you as a guru think
Regards,
Indrek
  • #1,290
  • Jul 1, 2009 10:18am Jul 1, 2009 10:18am
Hi forexjedi and robdee,
Thanks a lot for your help. I definitely struggle to find optimal trading strategy or system.

It is generally not difficult to find entries as it is exits. I like having a SL and TP at certain pip level. For example on M15 EUR/USD I would have 30 pip SL and 50 pip TP. I do not mind taking a loss but I have bens toped out to often and do not think to have it right. Maybe I should move my stop afte some gain? Than I have feeling that I will take big loss and small gains which is not good as well.
Is there any better way you have for vForce or you can recommend?

As I am an engineer I like this calculated systems and I have to have fixed rules.
I like the way you put the indicators in nice simple format. I do not have enough experience to do that so thanks again.

best regards.
sasa
  • #1,291
  • Jul 2, 2009 6:59am Jul 2, 2009 6:59am
Hi all,
Is there any pattern of pre news calm market action. I see today there is a level where EUR/USD is floating. Is tree a rule that VForce or Force5 is not used in pre news market?
Sasa
  • #1,292
  • Jul 13, 2009 1:25am Jul 13, 2009 1:25am
Hi All,

I'm just starting to use Vforce on 15min charts and noticed something strange. When you look at the attached candle you will see the 2nd last one is colored green, the color only used as confirmation candle above 10 pips.
Would anybody be so kind to explain why this candle is painted ? It should be preceded but a buy or sell candle, no ?

Thank you,

Peter
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  • #1,293
  • Sep 11, 2009 6:16am Sep 11, 2009 6:16am
what happen to this thread guys??


Sonic
  • #1,294
  • Sep 12, 2009 11:13pm Sep 12, 2009 11:13pm
Hi 180degrees,

Nothing should surprise you about this system and if it does then G_D help you. This is one of the craziest systems I've seen anywhere and if you want to make money I would hit delete really fast.

Ignorance can be corrected through learning but stupidity is forever.

Learn first then trade,

Johnny
  • #1,295
  • Sep 12, 2009 11:54pm Sep 12, 2009 11:54pm
Sonicdeejay,

What happened to this thread you ask? It is quite simple really. When the newbies ran out of money using this system they just can't play the game anymore. Sorry but that's the rules.

I tried to save a few but they would not listen. Oh well I hope they still have their day job. Will the last one left turn off the lights please.

Johnny
  • #1,296
  • Sep 17, 2009 6:14am Sep 17, 2009 6:14am
Quoting forexjedi

http://www.forexfactory.com/nfs/sign...gpic9556_3.gif


Dear Traders,

At last after countless days and untold amounts of time I have created what I feel is my finest work in my 7 years in forex. With the help of Robdee and his superior MT4 skills whom has created the fine layout of these charts and programming 8 indicators into 1 super efficient alert system vForce has reached its launch stage. The charts below will tell all as Rob and I attempt to take all traders on the ride of a lifetime turning a...
Hi , could you please put vForce indi in mql file, because in ex. i can't open it
Thanks
  • #1,297
  • Edited 9:33pm Sep 17, 2009 8:10pm | Edited 9:33pm
Quoting JohnnyBSmart
Sonicdeejay,

What happened to this thread you ask? It is quite simple really. When the newbies ran out of money using this system they just can't play the game anymore. Sorry but that's the rules.

I tried to save a few but they would not listen. Oh well I hope they still have their day job. Will the last one left turn off the lights please.

Johnny

try it on demo first (not on real), if you don't like it - don't use it

Johnny BSmart still can't get it
but he conducts test to prove - it's not completely foolproof
well, JohnnyBSmart, may be some day you will..
  • #1,298
  • Sep 27, 2009 1:33am Sep 27, 2009 1:33am
Just want to thank the two of you guys. Im a college student just graduated with a finance degree for a year now and cant get a job so i turned to the forex industry. Im new but did some classes on forex. I installed your program and plan to go live with it soon. Hope it works out i want to make a donation to you guys if it works out. You guys gave me hope. I have a question out of all these brokers im seeing who should i pick? I hear retail and market makers are bad and i should get a ecn broker and what is this 5 min indicator you made? Can i get a link to it. Thanks again jedi and r. U guys are a blessing.
  • #1,299
  • Sep 28, 2009 10:53am Sep 28, 2009 10:53am
kmoney,

I'd hold the thanks if I were you as you will not make money with this system. If you truly believe that this is you way to make a living then I suggest you see a Doctor.

Use your college degree to count what money you have now as it will be gone shortly. If you're smart enough to get a college degree then your smart enough to learn the forex. Quit this screwing around with this piece of crap. You'd be better off flipping a coin to pick your buys and sells.

Try learning about Support and Resistance, Linear Regression Channels, Bollinger Bands, How to read the charts, Chart Patterns and Drawing Trend lines. Then try Money Management, trading at the best times and how the fundamentals affect the market. If you do not know any of these things then you are doomed before you start. Understand that most of the people on FF and this thread in particular are clueless. Do not make the mistake and judge their knowledge by the length of time they have been here. Knowledge is gained through hard work and not just attendance as you very well know.

This system is a conglomerate of indicators used the wrong way which if you knew anything at all about the forex is just plain bad news. All indicators are late because there calculations use the price history for calculation. Throwing a bunch of indicators into one pot and expecting positive results is just plain nuts. I have tested this system and it is worse than worthless. Systems like this draws in newbies that end up losing their savings because they cannot tell the difference between the good, the bad or the ugly.

Your degree in finance will do you little good here but your ability to learn is your saving grace. I suggest you keep learning and don’t jump without a better understanding of what you are getting yourself into trading the Forex.

The forex markets can kill your bank account faster then anything I know. This is a cold dangerous game you are playing and you’ve come unarmed. The professionals play this game with all the weapons known to man. 95% of traders lose their ass so what makes you think you are so special? If you choose to continue down this road and disregard this warning to go with a live account than I thank you in advance for your contribution.

There are no short cuts from rags to riches here. You can make money but you must pay your dues first. If you’re looking for something quick and easy then try a Casino or buy a lottery ticket. Neither have good odds but your approach to the forex is no better and will have similar results.

Ignorance can be corrected through education but stupidity is forever. Ask yourself this, as far as the trading the Forex market, what category are you going to choose? Did college not teach you anything or were you just there for the parties? THINK BEFORE YOU ACT!

Johnny
  • #1,300
  • Sep 30, 2009 11:33am Sep 30, 2009 11:33am
i hear you i hear you and your right in a lot of ways. and i am not just jumping into this. i have spent the 5 weeks in a forex class, downloading and watch hours and hours of forex strategy and key fundamentals. i understand everything your saying i just feel that having a extra indicator such as this program would be used as another convergence for me and not something i would use blindly to jump into a trade but you are very right. let me ask you what brokers would you recomend? i have tried so many platforms but i dont know which broker to go with.
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